What should Matrix be doing with Harpoon?

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

ORIGINAL: ruixilyy

Then Matrix should release the update within a REASONABLE period of time. No customer has to wait for more than a year for the 'future' update.

To be precise, the promise to upgrade all ANW users to the HUE level was made at least 28 months ago 6/18/2010 by Erik Rutins of Matrix Games:

Erik Rutins
What it tells existing customers is that they will get a free update to the level of the Ultimate Edition

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Having said that, since I'm pretty sure we will get nothing it costs nothing to be "polite": it is all part of the Orwellian fun [;)]

[TonyE]

Vince, we can always count on you to assist the hijacking of a thread, drowning out the on-topic posts of YankeeAirRat, noguaranteeofsanity, rich12545. Thanks again to those three for staying on-topic with valuable contributions.

[ruixilyy]

ORIGINAL: TonyE

Vince, we can always count on you to assist the hijacking of a thread, drowning out the on-topic posts of YankeeAirRat, noguaranteeofsanity, rich12545. Thanks again to those three for staying on-topic with valuable contributions.

Definitely TonyE did not reply directly to what Vincenzo Beretta incisively pointed out--the fact that 28 months ago, ER of Matrix Games made a promise of an 'incoming' update. Perhaps he cannot reply with any plausible reasons? Pity.

[fguerin35]

ORIGINAL: ruixilyy
Definitely TonyE did not reply directly to what Vincenzo Beretta incisively pointed out--the fact that 28 months ago, ER of Matrix Games made a promise of an 'incoming' update. Perhaps he cannot reply with any plausible reasons? Pity.

"incoming" doesn't imply "at once". Or maybe you prefer to have bug-plagued sims but with monthly deliveries. Yes, as a matter of fact, 28 months are very long. HUE was released almost 2 years ago, but Vince, as an Italian, should know that Rome wasn't built in a single day. It goes exactly the same for Harpoon. Especially when a certain group throw every drop of energy in blasting efforts done instead of offering its expertise in a good manner.

FG

[ruixilyy]

ORIGINAL: Cdr Sylvester

ORIGINAL: ruixilyy
Definitely TonyE did not reply directly to what Vincenzo Beretta incisively pointed out--the fact that 28 months ago, ER of Matrix Games made a promise of an 'incoming' update. Perhaps he cannot reply with any plausible reasons? Pity.

"incoming" doesn't imply "at once". Or maybe you prefer to have bug-plagued sims but with monthly deliveries. Yes, as a matter of fact, 28 months are very long. HUE was released almost 2 years ago, but Vince, as an Italian, should know that Rome wasn't built in a single day. It goes exactly the same for Harpoon. Especially when a certain group throw every drop of energy in blasting efforts done instead of offering its expertise in a good manner.

FG

Do you think 28 months is a reasonable time for the 'incoming' standard? Then perhaps 10 years (ie, 120 months) can also mean 'incoming'.

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

ORIGINAL: Cdr Sylvester

ORIGINAL: ruixilyy
Definitely TonyE did not reply directly to what Vincenzo Beretta incisively pointed out--the fact that 28 months ago, ER of Matrix Games made a promise of an 'incoming' update. Perhaps he cannot reply with any plausible reasons? Pity.

Vince, as an Italian, should know that Rome wasn't built in a single day.

But it was (and is) patched in less that 28 months after fires, floods etc.

It goes exactly the same for Harpoon. Especially when a certain group throw every drop of energy in blasting efforts done instead of offering its expertise in a good manner.

You mean... like doing a buglist? For what is worth (*) it is here.

(*) Even with a bug description, a save file for each bug, and even a video showing each and every bug, it was never put to use in an useful manner. Maybe "offering expertise in a good manner" means keep quiet on how, from the day the patch was promised to today, they even found Bin-laden [8|]

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

Double post.

[Mobeer]

Total 48 posts in this thread in 10 months suggests to me that Matrix Games should be looking elsewhere for advice on what to do with Harpoon in future. Or deciding that there is not enough interest to do any further development.

[fguerin35]

Vince, you should read carefully what's written on HarpoonWiki... And you have no excuse that there is a tool where to post your "buglist", but nowhere on this tool I see your buglist. I wonder how you guys still hang to a game you're criticize at will. 10 years for a patch? Gosh! Current pace for Harpoon is around 2 years, and we're getting close to it. Maybe things would go faster if instead of childish behavior of some, a few of time spent in feuding would be spent in real help.

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

ORIGINAL: Cdr Sylvester

Vince, you should read carefully what's written on HarpoonWiki... And you have no excuse that there is a tool where to post your "buglist", but nowhere on this tool I see your buglist. I wonder how you guys still hang to a game you're criticize at will. 10 years for a patch? Gosh!

Actually, the BugList had an entire HarpoonWiki dedicated to it and it even had magical properties!

It mysteriously appeared
5/8/2008 fb.asp?m=1799684

disappeared
4/1/2009 fb.asp?m=2077554

re-appeared
4/1/2009 fb.asp?m=2077737

re-disappeared
5/1/2009 or so

and hasn't been seen since. We're not into playing such childish games. We just want to play a functional Harpoon.

ORIGINAL: Cdr Sylvester

Current pace for Harpoon is around 2 years, and we're getting close to it. Maybe things would go faster if instead of childish behavior of some, a few of time spent in feuding would be spent in real help.

Actually, it's nearly 3 years since Russell Sharp, the project manager for Harpoon and an official representative of AGSI, promised that:

ORIGINAL: rsharp@advancedgamin

3.10 will be a free upgrade to versions 3.7 or later.

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Anyway, we still "hang for a game" by publishing scenarios and additional free stuff, and by helping newcomers. Harpoon, as Iain McNeil openly stated, is still about the best sellers in Matrix catalogue - so maybe we are doing something right [:)]. True, sometimes we lose a bit of time by explaining things to the occasional whiner in the plainest language we can manage. And, true, it is very often a meaningless endeavour.

But enough about us. What are YOU doing hanging around this forum? We will be able to see any concrete contribution from you? We can't wait! - as long as it will not take "two years on the average", that's it

[TonyE]

ORIGINAL: Mobeer

Total 48 posts in this thread in 10 months suggests to me that Matrix Games should be looking elsewhere for advice on what to do with Harpoon in future. Or deciding that there is not enough interest to do any further development.

50 posts in the thread, barely a handful of them on topic, this is definitely not where I should have looked for advice on what we should expect or prompt Matrix to do with Harpoon. I was fishing and thought maybe you all could paint the story I was seeking. Note it was me asking, not Matrix, and the response here definitely tells me the Matrix Harpoon forums are not the place for anyone to understand Harpoon.

[ruixilyy]

How ridiculous! We customers paid Matrix Games the money to buy HUE. Matrix Games promised to provide updates for the game, and then nothing happened for more than 2 years. If you ask what should Matrix do with harpoon, it is simple: Matrix Games should release the promised 'incoming' update 3.11 as soon as possible. 28+ months of waiting is not reasonable in any sense. If Matrix Games fails to release the promised update, what else can those who bought HUE expect?!

[fguerin35]

ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta

We will be able to see any concrete contribution from you?

You already have seen it Vincenzo... Your friend Herman claimed he has imported it to the Reimer Editor. Strange for unconcrete contribution.

As for the delay in 3.11 release, you'll do as everybody: you'll wait

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

Guys,

this is a place where people come to enjoy and talk about Harpoon. If you have something interesting or constructive to say or ask you are welcome. If not, next time you will be reported. First and only warning.

P.S. "You wait" is not a polite answer. Even less for potential buyers.