Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[bsq]

Nimrod MR 2

The loads are too heavy.

It should carry 6 Torpedos and 2 B-57 or
6 Torpedos and 1 Harpoon or
2 Harpoons or
9 Torpedos

It never carried the WE 177. It used the same weapon as the US P-3C of this era. (update) - the B-57 20kt device

Until 1986 the torpedos should be Mk 46 after that date Stingrays or Mk 46 until 1995 when it was just Stingrays

Also during 1982 is was modified to carry 4 x AIM-9L and it retained this ability to out of service - these can be present with any loadout.

[Der Zeitgeist]

Sorry I just noticed I had my Google spreadsheet on read only. I changed that, so everyone should now be able to write their issues in there.[:)]

[Russian Heel]

ORIGINAL: Der Zeitgeist

Sorry I just noticed I had my Google spreadsheet on read only. I changed that, so everyone should now be able to write their issues in there.[:)]

Thank you! I was going crazy last night wondering what I was doing wrong being unable to make entries. I assumed I didn't know what I was doing.

[El Savior]

[ADDED / UPDATED DB v440]

Missing from database:

Country: Finland
Class: Aircraft

Mi-8T 1973-2010 (6 helicopters for military 4 for border guard)
Mi-8P 1981-2010 (2 helicopters for military)

Learjet 35A #2168
-Finland Learjet uses external visual / radar pods. Maritime Surveillance should have at least generic surface radar and recon camera. Special-mission Learjet 35s have performed reconnaissance, maritime patrol, and electronic warfare duties

https://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2013/May/1/Quick-Look-Learjet-35-36.aspx

http://www.puolustusvoimat.fi/wcm/1fb0fd00496af4d3802bbf759929fd62/Learjet.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: Russian Heel

B-52H loadouts for AGM-86s only have internal rotary launchers starting with the 1989-0 CALCM (entry 1909)The external 12 are unavailable nerfing the BUFF's AGM-86 payload by 60% from 20 to 8.

The loadouts for the AGM-129 are listed as 8 on the internal rotary launcher. This was not the case. 12 129s were carried externally only.

Source - I know the answer to the question "Why not Minot?" and 1014 > Balls 37.

Thanks, you're right on the AGM-129, have updated these.

It seems the full 20-ALCM loadout wasn't/isn't used operationally. In the early years it was common to carry 12 externally, but since the 1990s these have been carried internally. And so they do in the database. I could, as a compromise, also make the external loadout available post-1990s even though that's less realistic. Whatcha think?

[ComDev]

Have now made the Prairie Masker flag visible in the Codes list [8D]

Thanks guys!

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: Tony_A
That would be great!

Also, Iowa class BBs are missing height data in the 1980-current DB

Fixed, thanks!

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: Tony_A

Missing the aircraft types KA-3B; EKA-3B.

The tanker and tanker/EW variants of the A-3 Skywarrior.

They're listed in the CW database but not DB3000 even though they were used past 1979.

Sources:
http://www.joebaugher.com/usattack/newa3_7.html
http://a3skywarrior.com/whaletales/finalwake.html
http://www.wings-aviation.ch/25-Navy-Sq ... AK-308.htm

Thanks, have added these to the to-do list [8D]

If you need them for a scenario please give us a pling and I'll give them top priority.

Thanks!

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: bsq

Nimrod MR 2

The loads are too heavy.

It should carry 6 Torpedos and 2 B-57 or
6 Torpedos and 1 Harpoon or
2 Harpoons or
9 Torpedos

It never carried the WE 177. It used the same weapon as the US P-3C of this era. (update) - the B-57 20kt device

Until 1986 the torpedos should be Mk 46 after that date Stingrays or Mk 46 until 1995 when it was just Stingrays

Also during 1982 is was modified to carry 4 x AIM-9L and it retained this ability to out of service - these can be present with any loadout.

Thanks, have updated the B-57 depth charges [8D]

As for weight and Harpoon missiles, 9x Mk46s is 2322kg while 2x Harpoons is 1044kg, so should be able to carry both Harpoons and torps?

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: El Savior

Missing from database:

Country: Finland
Class: Aircraft

Mi-8T 1973-2010 (6 helicopters for military 4 for border guard)
Mi-8P 1981-2010 (2 helicopters for military)

Learjet 35A #2168
-Finland Learjet uses external visual / radar pods. Maritime Surveillance should have at least generic surface radar and recon camera. Special-mission Learjet 35s have performed reconnaissance, maritime patrol, and electronic warfare duties

https://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2013/May/1/Quick-Look-Learjet-35-36.aspx

http://www.puolustusvoimat.fi/wcm/1fb0fd00496af4d3802bbf759929fd62/Learjet.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

Added to to-do list, thanks! [8D]

Please bump me if these are needed for a scenario.

[Primarchx]

New platforms...
HC-144A Ocean Sentry (US Coast Guard)
HC-130J Super Hercules (US Coast Guard)

[Russian Heel]

ORIGINAL: emsoy

ORIGINAL: Russian Heel

B-52H loadouts for AGM-86s only have internal rotary launchers starting with the 1989-0 CALCM (entry 1909)The external 12 are unavailable nerfing the BUFF's AGM-86 payload by 60% from 20 to 8.

The loadouts for the AGM-129 are listed as 8 on the internal rotary launcher. This was not the case. 12 129s were carried externally only.

Source - I know the answer to the question "Why not Minot?" and 1014 > Balls 37.

Thanks, you're right on the AGM-129, have updated these.

It seems the full 20-ALCM loadout wasn't/isn't used operationally. In the early years it was common to carry 12 externally, but since the 1990s these have been carried internally. And so they do in the database. I could, as a compromise, also make the external loadout available post-1990s even though that's less realistic. Whatcha think?

Ahh! Lost a long post because I tried to post a picture of a B-52 from 2010 loaded with 86s externally and couldn't. Short version, in the 1990s at Minot AFB during a nuclear sortie generation exercise every B-52 that was to be loaded with 86s was loaded with 20. I'm not trying to be argumentative, I know in Desert Fox and Allied Force the CALCMs were only carried internally but the 5th Bomb Wing's nuclear role had 20 as the loadout if the a/c was slated for 86s. Though I guess one could argue that they were loaded externally for training reasons since there was never an actual nuclear sortie.

I guess really it doesn't matter, I don't suspect there will be too many scenarios built requiring a 3 ship of B-52s to launch 60 nuclear weapons. I can live with internal only, as long as you moved the 129 Advanced Gravity Bombs, oops! I mean Advanced Cruise Missiles to the pylons which you said you did.

[bsq]

ORIGINAL: emsoy

ORIGINAL: bsq

Nimrod MR 2

The loads are too heavy.

It should carry 6 Torpedos and 2 B-57 or
6 Torpedos and 1 Harpoon or
2 Harpoons or
9 Torpedos

It never carried the WE 177. It used the same weapon as the US P-3C of this era. (update) - the B-57 20kt device

Until 1986 the torpedos should be Mk 46 after that date Stingrays or Mk 46 until 1995 when it was just Stingrays

Also during 1982 is was modified to carry 4 x AIM-9L and it retained this ability to out of service - these can be present with any loadout.

Thanks, have updated the B-57 depth charges [8D]

As for weight and Harpoon missiles, 9x Mk46s is 2322kg while 2x Harpoons is 1044kg, so should be able to carry both Harpoons and torps?

At under 50' the weapons bay is not long enough to hold them.


Stingray
Length 2.6 m (8 ft 6 in) x 3 = 25 ft 6 in (say 29 feet if you allow space for the parachute retarding system)

Harpoon
Length Air-launched: 12.6 ft x 2 = 25.2 (say 28 feet if you allow clearance to drop them)

Torpedo racks = 3 weapons abreast (2 racks forward, 1 rack aft - CofG issues)
Harpoon rack = single centreline mount in the bay due to clearance issues with the wings...

B-57 = 2 weapons abreast (aft of the 6 torpedoes)

[bsq]

Based upon the latest Google Earth imagery could I please have an SA-20b Russia with 12 Tels

Reference locations (GE only)

55 27 57.12N, 37 14 05.96E (Tombstone - brilliantly clear shadow being cast of the radar on the big 40 metre plus TET)
55 27 55.55N, 37 14 12.70E (Clamshell - again on a big TET, casting a shadow that clearly shows the 'septum' between the two antenna halves)

Around the compound are emplacements for 12 Tels, not all are occupied but within this compound and the one to the south are 13+ Tels

If you give me this one, I'll build the Moscow SAM ring and upload it here (based locations on an open source KML [8D] )

[Der Zeitgeist]

Just updated my file for missing UNREP.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... sp=sharing

[goodwoodrw]

There needs to be a Facility for ports, Small Medium and large. We already have piers.

[ComDev]

Have updated the Nimrod as per request, thank you very much for the clarification [8D]

[f4migcap]

hey guys, if this hasn't been asked for already the AN/APS-20 radar needs to have 'Surface Search' added to its abilities. This radar was carried by several asw/maritime search aircraft like the P-2 Neptune.

[bsq]

Generic Searchlight range - should be 1.5 miles. Periscope detection at this range routinely achieved. Think this will affect a few MPA fitted with searchlights.

[Adam106]

Hi,

Can you please add 68mm SNEB rockets to the Raf Harrier Gr3. This was a very common loadout for the Harrier and they should be available. In game the Gr1's have them but not the Gr3's.

Can you also change the Dual Mode Brimstone to have SAL laser guidance as well as active radar guidance. The original Brimstone has active radar but the dual mode should have both guidance options.

http://www.mbda-systems.com/mediagaller ... 920797.pdf

Thanks.