Why cant you wait ?

[bOrIuM]

Hi all,

With all the posts about the game, why cant you just wait few days and look by yourself if This or That is in the game ? Asking if something is in the game for any reason will not make the game change !

Would be more cool to look for players !!

Thank you.

[cdbeck]

You really don't want to start this, bOrIuM. This game has been in production for 4+ years, and has been subjected to "jump-the-gun" release dates, delays, testing testing testing, and numerous changes. As the board game is also one of the most respected games on the forum, coupled with YEARS of anticipation, people are getting VERY excited about this pretty sure, pretty firm, impending release (having waited a few years myself, I still have to convince myself that Erik won't post a "well its not coming out" message on Tuesday).

This explains all the "WHAT IS IN IT? OMG CAN WE SEE THE MANUAL?" frenzy, a bit. Also, as there are several versions of the EiA board game, and a "varient" called Empire in Harm, people are still unsure what is going to be included.

So be careful about criticizing the anticipation here, you may just start a flame war! [8D]

SoM

[Veldor]

Let's not forget that not everyone may have already made the decision to purchase EiA either. Information never hurt anyone, especially accurate and up-to-date information. [:D]

[jamo262]

ORIGINAL: bOrIuM

Hi all,

With all the posts about the game, why cant you just wait few days and look by yourself if This or That is in the game ? Asking if something is in the game for any reason will not make the game change !

Would be more cool to look for players !!

Thank you.

Well I'm through being cool.

Four years ago I had time to play computer games- now I have none.

But still my excitement gets the better of me and going on this forum is a convenient way of distracting myself from my studies.

To add substance to this otherwise worthless posting let me share my uninformed predictions about this game.

At first it will be very good but not yet great due to;

1) AI being AI- but with random chit picking and a predisposition to concentrate armies I could be (hope I'M) wrong

2)Map counters being somewhat ugly (easily fixed over time)

3)A need for refinement which will add even depth to what is undoubtedly to become an (the) outstanding game. On this last point I have ideas aplenty- mainly ones I gathered from the more serious analysts and modifiers of the original game, including the designer and EiH (I wait to see what is included).

On this last point the issue is the modability of CEiA.

I understand that a scenario editor is envisaged for the near future, but how difficult will it be to modify the game in other ways.

I wait with baited breath to see what Santa brings[&o]

[Alan_Bernardo]

ORIGINAL: jamo262

ORIGINAL: bOrIuM

Hi all,

With all the posts about the game, why cant you just wait few days and look by yourself if This or That is in the game ? Asking if something is in the game for any reason will not make the game change !

Would be more cool to look for players !!

Thank you.

I wait with baited breath to see what Santa brings[&o]

Baited breath? Must be a fish thing.


Alan

[jamo262]

I had tuna for lunch

[jamo262]

[Q] From Steve Gearhart: “Where does the term baited breath come from, as in: ‘I am waiting with baited breath for your answer’?”

[A] The correct spelling is actually bated breath but it’s so common these days to see it written as baited breath that there’s every chance it will soon become the usual form, to the disgust of conservative speakers and the confusion of dictionary writers. Examples in newspapers and magazines are legion; this one appeared in the Daily Mirror on 12 April 2003: “She hasn’t responded yet but Michael is waiting with baited breath”.

It’s easy to mock, but there’s a real problem here. Bated and baited sound the same and we no longer use bated (let alone the verb to bate), outside this one set phrase, which has become an idiom. Confusion is almost inevitable. Bated here is a contraction of abated through loss of the unstressed first vowel (a process called aphesis); it has the meaning “reduced, lessened, lowered in force”. So bated breath refers to a state in which you almost stop breathing through terror, awe, extreme anticipation, or anxiety.

Shakespeare is the first writer known to use it, in The Merchant of Venice: “Shall I bend low and, in a bondman’s key, / With bated breath and whisp’ring humbleness, / Say this ...”. Nearly three centuries later, Mark Twain employed it in Tom Sawyer: “Every eye fixed itself upon him; with parted lips and bated breath the audience hung upon his words, taking no note of time, rapt in the ghastly fascinations of the tale”.

For those who know the older spelling or who stop to consider the matter, baited breath evokes an incongruous image, which Geoffrey Taylor humorously (and consciously) captured in verse in his poem Cruel Clever Cat:

Sally, having swallowed cheese,
Directs down holes the scented breeze,
Enticing thus with baited breath
Nice mice to an untimely death.

[I’m indebted to Rainer Thonnes for telling me about this little ditty, which appears in an anthology called Catscript, edited by Marie Angel. However, it was first published in 1933 in a limited edition of Geoffrey Taylor’s poems entitled A Dash of Garlic.]

[Alan_Bernardo]

I don't know-- the word is spelled "bated" and not, typically, "baited".  I've read a lot (and still do) in my time here on earth and never have I come across "baited".
 
I mean, if "bated breath" is to mean someone who is acutely aniticpating something happening, I don't see how "baited" enters the equation. 
 
I can understand the confusion between the two, as they sound the same.  But I think most would agree that the term is "bated" and not "baited".
 
It's no big deal, obviously.  But I often find that what amuses me most in life is how users seem to hack up idiomatic phrases.  I'm sure there's a list of these hack jobs somewhere. 
 
 
Here's hoping EiA is released on the 4th!
 
 
Alan

[jamo262]

Oh the above article supports your contention entirely.

Thats one word i will never spell wrong again.

Which country do you want to go?

Have you played the board game?

[Naomi]

ORIGINAL: Alan_Bernardo


I can understand the confusion between the two, as they sound the same. But I think most would agree that the term is "bated" and not "baited".

It's no big deal, obviously. But I often find that what amuses me most in life is how users seem to hack up idiomatic phrases. I'm sure there's a list of these hack jobs somewhere.


Alan

We might as well "Google" the confusion away. It's the media that started the fuss by their word hacking and tweaking (or just misprinting). But again, it's they that are enriching our ways of expression. Who knows when we are saying things like "Let's matrix an evening" or "I've a matrix to do in this vacation"?

[sol_invictus]

Well this day has not been a complete waste, as I have learned the correct spelling of bated. I have used the word "baited" before when I am being silly, so now I will correctly use bated when I am being silly.[&o] Knowledge is power.

[Don60420]

I have dreamed about a computer version of this magnificent game since it was first released as a boardgame.  The huge map simply is too tempting a target to pets and small kids, and a computer game will take away the not inconsiderable bookkeeping.  Roll on December 4th!

[sol_invictus]

I find myself compelled to re-read the "How to play each power" thread. Lots of good info in there for someone who has never played the boardgame. This game has such potential to be a blast.

[Alan_Bernardo]

ORIGINAL: jamo262

Oh the above article supports your contention entirely.

Thats one word i will never spell wrong again.

Which country do you want to go?

Have you played the board game?

Well, all this was a good release of tension, waiting for EiA to be released.

I've never played the EiA boardgame. But I love these types of games, especially those dealing with the Napoleonic Wars and the American Civil War.

I'll be pretty much starting from scratch, my only initial guide being my acquaintance with similar type games.

I'll have to become quite good before I venture online, though going against someone who is as inexperienced as me (or is it "myself"?) would be good practice.

As for a country, I always like England, or maybe Russia, or Austria. France, being probably the most powerful nation, I'd reserve for later play.


Alan

[1LTRambo]

I can hardly wait to get my hands on this game also. But, after waiting 4 years for the release of CEiA, what's another 3 months?[8|]

[sol_invictus]

I have never played the boardgame but I am sure that I will jump right into pbem and most likely get slaughtered and humiliated. It will motivate me to try again and get some payback.

[hlj]

I can wait ^_^

[Murat]

ORIGINAL: 1LTRambo

I can hardly wait to get my hands on this game also. But, after waiting 4 years for the release of CEiA, what's another 3 months?[8|]

DAYS OMG do not say months and jinx us [:-]