The Sky’s the Limit- PBEM GC 41 jubjub (Axis) vs. M60A3TTS (Soviet)

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Re: The Sky’s the Limit- PBEM GC 41 jubjub (Axis) vs. M60A3TTS (Soviet)

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Week 93 28 March 1943

A thin snow layer firmed up the ground in the Kursk-Kharkov Region. Both sides were well aware of what this meant, that the last remnants of the Russian winter were once again prepared to die away. Heavy rains were not far off that would soon largely immobilize both sides. If there was to be any offensive action of significance, the Stavka was all too aware this was the time. In Berlin, the German High Command could not but help come to the same conclusions. To that end, preparations were well in hand to enact countermeasures in this area, regardless of what moves the Russians made. If things went as well as might be expected, perhaps upwards of a half-million enemy troops might be caught in a trap from which they could not escape.

In Moscow, Colonel General Antonov along with his new Deputy for Operations, Major General Sergei Shtemenko laid out to the NKO, the Red Army plan for action.
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Colonel General Konev with his Voronezh Front would strike west of Kursk in conjunction with Army General Meretskov’s Bryansk Front and attempt to trap whatever German divisions it could bag.

Simultaneously to the south in the Kharkov Region, Army General Zhukov of Central Front would launch a two-pronged offensive against this key industrial city. A thrust from north to south initiated southwest of Belgorod would link up with a matching force that would drive up from the south and surround the enemy forces there. The Soviets like their German counterparts had dreams of a massive victory that would decide the outcome of the war.

For the Soviets however, their plans called for walking into by all accounts was an obvious trap. All that was lacking was a means of insuring such a trap would not succeed. Thirty miles south of Kharkov was the beginning of a line of Rumanian screening divisions that ran in a southeast direction and designed to absorb any early blows. This would then invite the expected German counterattack by what was expected to come from at least three panzer corps in the greater Kharkov southern region. Specifically these were XLI and LVI Panzer Corps under Generals Erhard Raus and Erich Von Manstein as well as XXXX Panzer Corps under General Georg-Hans Reinhardt.

Soviet forces for the Kursk Operation would contain 1.3 million men between Voronezh and Bryansk Fronts. Konev was given the largest concentration of armor among all the fronts, amounting to over 2,150 AFVs. Bryansk Front in comparison fielded a meager 111 machines. For the Kharkov encirclement, General Zhukov had 928,700 soldiers under his command. Armor forces were modest in comparison to Konev with 720 fighting vehicles. As a consequence, Colonel General Vatutin of Southwestern Front was ordered to turn over operational control of Lieutenant General Chernyakhovsky’s 3rd Shock Army, containing another 850 AFVs, thus giving Zhukov over 1,500 in total. Vatutin was also expected to make available Rodion Malinovsky’s 2nd Guards Army consisting of six rifle corps, five of them guards to further augment Zhukov’s southern wing. With such a force, whatever German surprise was in the offing beyond their Rumanian screening forces, the Red Army here would be tremendously difficult to contain.

In any case, time was of the essence. By every meteorological estimate, the Spring floods were not far off. This was the time.

At 06:45am on 28 March, Colonel General Konev launched his opening artillery barrage. Zhukov would launch his own thirty minutes later. Neither side could anticipate what would come next. They could only hope.
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Re: The Sky’s the Limit- PBEM GC 41 jubjub (Axis) vs. M60A3TTS (Soviet)

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M60A3TTS wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:29 am Week 93 28 March 1943

A thin snow layer firmed up the ground in the Kursk-Kharkov Region. Both sides were well aware of what this meant, that the last remnants of the Russian winter were once again prepared to die away. Heavy rains were not far off that would soon largely immobilize both sides. If there was to be any offensive action of significance, the Stavka was all too aware this was the time. In Berlin, the German High Command could not but help come to the same conclusions. To that end, preparations were well in hand to enact countermeasures in this area, regardless of what moves the Russians made. If things went as well as might be expected, perhaps upwards of a half-million enemy troops might be caught in a trap from which they could not escape.

In Moscow, Colonel General Antonov along with his new Deputy for Operations, Major General Sergei Shtemenko laid out to the NKO, the Red Army plan for action.
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Colonel General Konev with his Voronezh Front would strike west of Kursk in conjunction with Army General Meretskov’s Bryansk Front and attempt to trap whatever German divisions it could bag.

Simultaneously to the south in the Kharkov Region, Army General Zhukov of Central Front would launch a two-pronged offensive against this key industrial city. A thrust from north to south initiated southwest of Belgorod would link up with a matching force that would drive up from the south and surround the enemy forces there. The Soviets like their German counterparts had dreams of a massive victory that would decide the outcome of the war.

For the Soviets however, their plans called for walking into by all accounts was an obvious trap. All that was lacking was a means of insuring such a trap would not succeed. Thirty miles south of Kharkov was the beginning of a line of Rumanian screening divisions that ran in a southeast direction and designed to absorb any early blows. This would then invite the expected German counterattack by what was expected to come from at least three panzer corps in the greater Kharkov southern region. Specifically these were XLI and LVI Panzer Corps under Generals Erhard Raus and Erich Von Manstein as well as XXXX Panzer Corps under General Georg-Hans Reinhardt.

Soviet forces for the Kursk Operation would contain 1.3 million men between Voronezh and Bryansk Fronts. Konev was given the largest concentration of armor among all the fronts, amounting to over 2,150 AFVs. Bryansk Front in comparison fielded a meager 111 machines. For the Kharkov encirclement, General Zhukov had 928,700 soldiers under his command. Armor forces were modest in comparison to Konev with 720 fighting vehicles. As a consequence, Colonel General Vatutin of Southwestern Front was ordered to turn over operational control of Lieutenant General Chernyakhovsky’s 3rd Shock Army, containing another 850 AFVs, thus giving Zhukov over 1,500 in total. Vatutin was also expected to make available Rodion Malinovsky’s 2nd Guards Army consisting of six rifle corps, five of them guards to further augment Zhukov’s southern wing. With such a force, whatever German surprise was in the offing beyond their Rumanian screening forces, the Red Army here would be tremendously difficult to contain.

In any case, time was of the essence. By every meteorological estimate, the Spring floods were not far off. This was the time.

At 06:45am on 28 March, Colonel General Konev launched his opening artillery barrage. Zhukov would launch his own thirty minutes later. Neither side could anticipate what would come next. They could only hope.
Déjà vu
Am I dreaming !!! the above screenshot looks awfully familiar to the map below, is this a coincidence will history ( in pixel icons ) repeat itself or can The Axis change History :D
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For thirty minutes, Ivan Kristoforich Bagramyan watched through the field periscope as the 152mm rounds from 8 army artillery regiments along with the heavier 203mm shells of 4 heavy gun regiments methodically worked over the front lines manned by two infantry divisions of the LII Corps, specifically the 112th and 297th Infantry Divisions. They had had ample time and resources to dig in with the assistance of 215th and 671st Pionier Battalions. They were also ready for any armor coming into the assault with the attached 243rd Sturmgeschutze Battalion and 702nd Heavy Flak Battalion.

The conclusion of the barrage came as expected and Bagramyan, commanding 30th Army then saw the men go forward. He would have much preferred the assault to have included some sort of combat engineer support, but that was a capability that the Red Army was still developing and requiring more time to implement. As reports began to come back through multiple corps headquarters, it was clear this was to be a close-run race. The 30th Army was only a part of an assault from 200,000 Soviet troops against the two German divisions that were still very much in the fight. By early afternoon, some progress was reported. The defenders had moved back into their secondary trench system while inflicting higher casualties on the attackers at a rate of 5-1.

All of this information was naturally also coming into Konev’s Voronezh Front headquarters. By 3PM, the front commander was in contact by telephone with Bagramyan who now requested tank support which could force the Germans back further. This request was acted on immediately by Konev, ordering Colonel General Pavel Batov of 5th Shock Army to prepare for the commitment 3rd Tank Corps to the fight. 3rd Tank Corps, commanded by Major General Maxim Sinenko had a largely successful combat record at this stage in the war. It was primarily equipped with the British Valentine III which mounted the 2-pounder gun. Adequate by the standards of 1940-41 and arguably 1942, by 1943 it was clearly outmatched. Sinenko in his daily report indicated 89 of his Valentines were available for action with another 10 under repair. He also had 19 T-70 light tanks operational and 4 unavailable. Fortunately the 3rd Tank Corps also had seen the additional attachment of two elements. 69th Tank Brigade was ready for action with 30 T-34s and 14 T-60 light tanks. At this stage the T-60 tank provided little combat value as it only mounted a 20mm gun. Still they were there. There too was the 115th Separate Tank Regiment equipped with 30 older T-34s Model 1942 and 4 T-70s. Considering the time of day, there seemed little value in sending in the 3rd Tank immediately. Preparations were made to send the tanks in at first light the following day.
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Hoping for an update in this one!
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Hi Q-Ball. The game and AAR are currently suspended. If you would like to know the reason, you can google Radical Left Lephrectomy and throw in a couple post-ops complications.

I hope to resume things again in the near future, but for now it's all quiet on the Eastern Front.
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Best wishes for a speedy recovery!!
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Shupov wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 9:59 pm Best wishes for a speedy recovery!!
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Thanks. Recovery is going well. Frankly, I just need to get re-energized to complete the turn and get it back to jubjub. Hopefully this happens over the weekend and then this AAR will resume once more.
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Sounds scary.
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M60A3TTS wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 5:34 am Thanks. Recovery is going well. Frankly, I just need to get re-energized to complete the turn and get it back to jubjub. Hopefully this happens over the weekend and then this AAR will resume once more.
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At 05:30 on the 29th of March, a steady rain was falling onto the trenches of the 112th and 97th Infantry Divisions. With visibility limited by patches of ground fog, the German infantry could initially only hear the Soviet armor as it made its way forwards. Sinenko chose to commit his 69th Tank Brigade as the advanced guard with 115th Separate Tank Regiment close behind. The Valentines of 3rd Tank Corps interspersed with riflemen were intended to be the breakthrough element. Within fifteen minutes, the 69th Brigade was reporting intense fires from approximately one hundred dug in German 37mm, 50mm and 75mm anti-tank guns. As the advance continued, the tank losses grew. Both StuGs and 88mm flak guns joined in the defense. Of 64 T-34s, 38 were destroyed. The light tanks drew corresponding losses of their own with 32 of 45 lost. Still the Valentines of 3rd Tank Corps came on. Here as they pressed home the attack, losses were 26 of 99 tanks. In all, Sinenko would report his losses at 103 of 223 fighting vehicles.

By the end of the battle, the two German divisions were in retreat. Forbidden to escape to the west, instead the two divisions were ordered to fall back to the northeast and join in the general defense of the city of Kursk and the surrounding area. Meanwhile, another attack by five rifle corps of Bryansk Front attacked in the southwestern direction, causing the German 111th Division to retreat and join in the defense of Kursk as well. A pocket was now formed, trapping over a hundred thousand men of the German 15th, 34th, 83rd, 112th, 212th, 252nd, 262nd and 292nd Infantry Divisions.

In the Kharkov region, more bad news for the defending German forces. Soviet attacks designed to create a second large pocket were underway. Coming up from the south were a mixed group of forces belonging to Zhukov’s Central Front and Vatutin’s Southwestern Front. These attacks would cost the lives of not one, but two panzer corps commanders. Erich von Manstein of the 56th Panzer Corps was surprised by elements of 13th Motorcycle Regiment attached to the 36th Motorized Rifle Division of 1st Guards Tank Army. Hours later, General Erhard Raus of 41st Panzer Corps would suffer a similar fate at the hands of the 11th Motorcycle Regiment of the 57th Motorized Rifle Division also with 1st Guards Tank. Incredibly, both Motorized Divisions would move against no opposition to occupy an undefended Kharkov. An immediate call for assistance resulted in 7th Tank Corps joining the defenders against a German counterattack that they knew must come sooner rather than later. While all this was happening, Zhukov ordered 2nd Shock and 3rd Guards Armies of Generals Lelyushenko and Galanin to punch through through the German defenses. Coming down from the north following the breach, 1st Shock Army under Paval Rybalko succeeded for the moment in breaking through and creating the Kharkov Pocket. Here, a total of 26 German divisions were in the bag.

The operations in the Kursk and Kharkov regions were now complete. What happened next would depend on the depth of German reserves that would be committed to the counterattack. Would Kharkov’s defenders hold? Would the cut-off defenders break out at Kursk? The answers would come soon enough.

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M60A3TTS wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 8:55 pm At 05:30 on the 29th of March, a steady rain was falling onto the trenches of the 112th and 97th Infantry Divisions. With visibility limited by patches of ground fog, the German infantry could initially only hear the Soviet armor as it made its way forwards. Sinenko chose to commit his 69th Tank Brigade as the advanced guard with 115th Separate Tank Regiment close behind. The Valentines of 3rd Tank Corps interspersed with riflemen were intended to be the breakthrough element. Within fifteen minutes, the 69th Brigade was reporting intense fires from approximately one hundred dug in German 37mm, 50mm and 75mm anti-tank guns. As the advance continued, the tank losses grew. Both StuGs and 88mm flak guns joined in the defense. Of 64 T-34s, 38 were destroyed. The light tanks drew corresponding losses of their own with 32 of 45 lost. Still the Valentines of 3rd Tank Corps came on. Here as they pressed home the attack, losses were 26 of 99 tanks. In all, Sinenko would report his losses at 103 of 223 fighting vehicles.

By the end of the battle, the two German divisions were in retreat. Forbidden to escape to the west, instead the two divisions were ordered to fall back to the northeast and join in the general defense of the city of Kursk and the surrounding area. Meanwhile, another attack by five rifle corps of Bryansk Front attacked in the southwestern direction, causing the German 111th Division to retreat and join in the defense of Kursk as well. A pocket was now formed, trapping over a hundred thousand men of the German 15th, 34th, 83rd, 112th, 212th, 252nd, 262nd and 292nd Infantry Divisions.

In the Kharkov region, more bad news for the defending German forces. Soviet attacks designed to create a second large pocket were underway. Coming up from the south were a mixed group of forces belonging to Zhukov’s Central Front and Vatutin’s Southwestern Front. These attacks would cost the lives of not one, but two panzer corps commanders. Erich von Manstein of the 56th Panzer Corps was surprised by elements of 13th Motorcycle Regiment attached to the 36th Motorized Rifle Division of 1st Guards Tank Army. Hours later, General Erhard Raus of 41st Panzer Corps would suffer a similar fate at the hands of the 11th Motorcycle Regiment of the 57th Motorized Rifle Division also with 1st Guards Tank. Incredibly, both Motorized Divisions would move against no opposition to occupy an undefended Kharkov. An immediate call for assistance resulted in 7th Tank Corps joining the defenders against a German counterattack that they knew must come sooner rather than later. While all this was happening, Zhukov ordered 2nd Shock and 3rd Guards Armies of Generals Lelyushenko and Galanin to punch through through the German defenses. Coming down from the north following the breach, 1st Shock Army under Paval Rybalko succeeded for the moment in breaking through and creating the Kharkov Pocket. Here, a total of 26 German divisions were in the bag.

The operations in the Kursk and Kharkov regions were now complete. What happened next would depend on the depth of German reserves that would be committed to the counterattack. Would Kharkov’s defenders hold? Would the cut-off defenders break out at Kursk? The answers would come soon enough.

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I cant definitively say this with certainty but on the face of it the northern pocket appears to be doomed, there is just to many Red Army troops surrounding them, in the south there looks like a chance to extricate Axis forces, how many is the question.

Erich von Manstein dead ! that is a big blow too, is this Army Group Centre you have encircled or South ? 26 Divisions WOW
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