Axis bias mod.K

[Stamb]

Maybe it will be possible to somehow make panzer divisions to fight better then motorized one. As current system makes no sense that motorized division is way better then a panzer one. Why would Germans use panzers in that case if it was much cheaper to produce armored vehicles than tanks?!

[MechFO]

Give back the Stalingrad units and adjust the Finn TB for the event that Leningrad falls.

[Zebtucker12]

It shall be done kulik do you also want a mause?

Sadly your two suggestions are beyond my current skills Stamb

Finnish Tb is planned what do you mean by Give back stalingrad units.

[MechFO]

ORIGINAL: Zebtucker12

It shall be done kulik do you also want a mause?

Sadly your two suggestions are beyond my current skills Stamb

Finnish Tb is planned what do you mean by Give back stalingrad units.

Right now one doesn't get the counters of the units newly raised to replace the units destroyed in the pocket, aside from 2.

This means 3 Panzerdivisions, 14 Inf Divisions, 15 Art Bat etc. are lost, not to mention the Korps and Army HQ. Some Inf Divisions, arguably 4-6 should be counted as rebuilt since they still had various collections of survivors that were used as the core. Also one gets the Army HQ that replaced 6th Army.

One gets the newly raised 2 Mot Inf Div and since the 60th could form approx a Regiment from the survivors that shouldn't count as newly raised, so those are sorted.

[Stamb]

ORIGINAL: Zebtucker12

It shall be done kulik do you also want a mause?

Sadly your two suggestions are beyond my current skills Stamb

Finnish Tb is planned what do you mean by Give back stalingrad units.

I am still not sure if you are kidding or really going to make this mod
If you are going to then I would propose to replace on map Panzer divisions with motorized units which TOE is going to upgrade to a panzer division in May `42 or whenever it is happening. In that way we can avoid useless tanks in `41. And it `42 it is a little bit better.

[ToxicThug11]

ORIGINAL: Stamb

ORIGINAL: Zebtucker12

It shall be done kulik do you also want a mause?

Sadly your two suggestions are beyond my current skills Stamb

Finnish Tb is planned what do you mean by Give back stalingrad units.

I am still not sure if you are kidding or really going to make this mod
If you are going to then I would propose to replace on map Panzer divisions with motorized units which TOE is going to upgrade to a panzer division in May `42 or whenever it is happening. In that way we can avoid useless tanks in `41. And it `42 it is a little bit better.

We are currently developing the mod and consulting on balance

[AlbertN]

Frankly it is not exactly uncommon for many strategy games to have a player-made mod that becomes the official PvP mod to use by the community as players go through the gaming experience more than devs and ultimately have a better grasp of gameplay flow and balance in pragmatical and realistic terms.

Usually the problem is to get the mod inserted and played at the start til it affirms around - and in general it is a community-circle effort and not a single player effort.

[Stamb]

Agree. As it was mentioned before, most players play vs AI. And it is hard or maybe even impossible to balance things to play well vs AI and in PvP in the same time.

[ToxicThug11]

Luckily the editor is very easy to use and a balance mod will be quite quick to make functionally. Gathering information from numerous veteran players will be the hard part. Playtesting will also be hard, ATM the method of reducing Axis AFV losses is to increase their armour. However it will be difficult to quantify what other effects this will have.

[Stamb]

Increasing armor is alternative history. Pz II or III can not have 100mm from the side, 150 from a front. Game looses its charm.
That is why developers intervention is needed to prevent Soviets running/ability to concentrate 1000 AFVs in once place. At least in `41

[Stamb]

I was thinking that maybe morale boost might help it? I do not know. 100 morale? 120?

[ToxicThug11]

Fully agreed, one of the ways to prevent this is to have the Soviets actually interacting with supply. ATM Soviet supply capabilities are ahistorical.

[G Felzien]

My only request (as mentioned earlier) is to have the SU assigned to OKH for the start of the '41GC.

I would be happy to play this mod in the long game and provide balance feedback.

[ToxicThug11]

That would definitely make turn 1 alot more enjoyable.

[Stamb]

Maybe it is also possible to set ammo penalty for a Soviets tanks, like they have with an arty in non assault armies, but it will apply for a tanks even if they are in the assault army? This would reduce their Rate Of Fire.
And this debuff should be removed before a winter and to the end of the game.

Just throwing an ideas.

[Zebtucker12]

ORIGINAL: Stamb

I was thinking that maybe morale boost might help it? I do not know. 100 morale? 120?

You dont need a mod for this just change the game settings at the start

[Zebtucker12]

ORIGINAL: Stamb

Maybe it is also possible to set ammo penalty for a Soviets tanks, like they have with an arty in non assault armies, but it will apply for a tanks even if they are in the assault army? This would reduce their Rate Of Fire.
And this debuff should be removed before a winter and to the end of the game.

Just throwing an ideas.

I can lower their early moduels rof myself not sure if i can do things like the artillery debuff.
The t34 had a lack of not only armoured shells but also guns! At the start of the war actually

[AlbertN]

The Soviet supply issue is probably the easiest to solve - remove Moscow and Saratov as NSS and add 2 in the Urals or maybe that's not even needed.

Many tabletop games have Soviet supply at the 'eastern map edge', and their industrial core moves to Siberia.
It should probably give the Russians as well some 'freight issue' that keep their logistics in check. I am not sure of that though as I do not know how many railyards they have in the Urals to support the movement but that may be a case of upping railyards in Urals.

[Zebtucker12]

Intresting idea il try it after my current testing of mass level 1 interdiction is done.

[Stamb]

How Soviets are supposed to advance later on with an NSS at Ural? It is possible to move NSS during a war?

If it is possible to change in an editor I would propose to make dynamic logistics, 50-60% in `41, more at `42 and so on. Maybe some other values are needed.