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Any chance this will cause Las Vegas to shrink? (Thereby forcing you to change the title of this thread).
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I don't think so Curtis its not a yearly occurrence.
All indications appear to be continued growth. Many casinos (older) on the strip have been redone. Next time you visit the new 4000 room Casino should be completed by 2020. Oakland raiders will be here next year their Stadium build is on target for completion 2020. LV now host a women's professional basketball team. They are vying for a soccer team. And a Baseball team.
Downtown the Casino owners are investing there as well. An old Casino was torn down and a new one is being built in its place.

House prices are up and new home construction has begun again. I think the major factor for financial stability is LV push for a more diverse economy. Casino revenue is still the #1 industry. Since the last economic bust that has become LV's major effort.
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I don't think so Curtis its not a yearly occurrence.
All indications appear to be continued growth. Many casinos (older) on the strip have been redone. Next time you visit the new 4000 room Casino should be completed by 2020. Oakland raiders will be here next year their Stadium build is on target for completion 2020. LV now host a women's professional basketball team. They are vying for a soccer team. And a Baseball team.
Downtown the Casino owners are investing there as well. An old Casino was torn down and a new one is being built in its place.

House prices are up and new home construction has begun again. I think the major factor for financial stability is LV push for a more diverse economy. Casino revenue is still the #1 industry. Since the last economic bust that has become LV's major effort.
How is the water situation?
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I don't think so Curtis its not a yearly occurrence.
All indications appear to be continued growth. Many casinos (older) on the strip have been redone. Next time you visit the new 4000 room Casino should be completed by 2020. Oakland raiders will be here next year their Stadium build is on target for completion 2020. LV now host a women's professional basketball team. They are vying for a soccer team. And a Baseball team.
Downtown the Casino owners are investing there as well. An old Casino was torn down and a new one is being built in its place.

House prices are up and new home construction has begun again. I think the major factor for financial stability is LV push for a more diverse economy. Casino revenue is still the #1 industry. Since the last economic bust that has become LV's major effort.
How is the water situation?

Water level is down because of the drought. Las Vegas, though is in a good position. Several years back we were taxed to build an extension to the pump in the lake behind Hoover Dam. That pump was brought down the lake bottom. If, the level of the lake continues to go down we will still be able to get water. California will be without because the pump for that state does not go as down deep.
Las Vegas is more conscious about conserving water. Conservation efforts has taken hold in government. So residences and even Casinos have regulations to conserve water.
Those who measure water use and if it will effect las vegas tourist industry say even with 40million+ visitors a year LV is not threatened. The lake can support all the growth and tourist for many years to come.

With all that said, you will still see many Casinos with great water features inside and outside.
In-ground pools are still very popular to have in single family homes. A feature I wanted when I purchased my home in Vegas. The weather allows for several months of use without having to use a heater.
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Hi Zap

I have followed the water situation here for decades--in the early 70's that was only to know when it was safe to go diving at the cliffs.

Although Lake Mead is still down from historic averages, this was a fantastic water year. Upstream Lake Powel has had a tremendous inflow from the winter snow--up about 54 feet which is about 5.5 million acre-feet of water-since April 1. It has still been increasing a month after it normally starts to drop again.

Lake Mead will not see any great gain (although it is almost a million-acre feet more than this time last year) until this winter when Lake Powell really starts dumping water in preparation for the big melt off.

As a percentage of river water used, Las Vegas and Nevada do not get squat. The amount of water allotted to Las Vegas amounts to the average daily release (annual basis) from Hoover Dam over a twelve (12) DAY period. Arizin and CA get all the water--growing alfalfa in the desert for Saudi Arabia is one big use. Making the Imperial Valley green is another big use. BTW, the Lake dropped perhaps 15 years ago from refilling aquifers in Arizona--millions of are feet of water. There are good water years and bad (2018 was bad). On average it would all work out, but it will never come back up unless the outflow is reduced. Clark County has an average of 4.5 inches of rain each year. The drought here is sort of the norm and has little effect on the Lake.

There was a time when big shot talking heads said LV could not have more than 1/2 million people due to water constraints. It now has about 5 times that amount in the greater metro area. Las Vegas will continue to grow, but up--not out. There is no more State land other than the I 15 corridor. The Federal Government owns about 84% of Nevada--and they don't give any back. They will do swaps, but no giving back--a very strange agreement dating to statehood during the Civil War.

Anyway Zap, good to see you are still kicking. I'm retired now--moved out of the city--60 miles.
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Hi Zap

I have followed the water situation here for decades--in the early 70's that was only to know when it was safe to go diving at the cliffs.

Although Lake Mead is still down from historic averages, this was a fantastic water year. Upstream Lake Powel has had a tremendous inflow from the winter snow--up about 54 feet which is about 5.5 million acre-feet of water-since April 1. It has still been increasing a month after it normally starts to drop again.

Lake Mead will not see any great gain (although it is almost a million-acre feet more than this time last year) until this winter when Lake Powell really starts dumping water in preparation for the big melt off.

As a percentage of river water used, Las Vegas and Nevada do not get squat. The amount of water allotted to Las Vegas amounts to the average daily release (annual basis) from Hoover Dam over a twelve (12) DAY period. Arizin and CA get all the water--growing alfalfa in the desert for Saudi Arabia is one big use. Making the Imperial Valley green is another big use. BTW, the Lake dropped perhaps 15 years ago from refilling aquifers in Arizona--millions of are feet of water. There are good water years and bad (2018 was bad). On average it would all work out, but it will never come back up unless the outflow is reduced. Clark County has an average of 4.5 inches of rain each year. The drought here is sort of the norm and has little effect on the Lake.

There was a time when big shot talking heads said LV could not have more than 1/2 million people due to water constraints. It now has about 5 times that amount in the greater metro area. Las Vegas will continue to grow, but up--not out. There is no more State land other than the I 15 corridor. The Federal Government owns about 84% of Nevada--and they don't give any back. They will do swaps, but no giving back--a very strange agreement dating to statehood during the Civil War.

Anyway Zap, good to see you are still kicking. I'm retired now--moved out of the city--60 miles.


Well nice surprise 06 maestro , good to hear from you. 60 miles out! towards red rock or north towards Mesquite? Retired myself as well, but am looking to pick up a low stress part time job. Boredom plus a little extra to play with.
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Nice to know that some cities are looking ahead. Thanks, Zap.
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Hmm, I looked up Falmouth Institute, Inc. A Native American training and consulting company providing culturally relevant education and information services to North American Indian tribes and organizations.

What on earth do they do that they have multiple conventions in Sin City? [&:] Still, I may partner with them [;)]

I have seen operations in various parts of the nation that would be shut down in about 48 hours if located in Las Vegas. There are rules here, laws that are enforced, unlike in the Bible Belt or other like areas I have seen. Funny, in Kentucky, I heard that term of Sin City multiple times in a six month period. I finally pointed out that some of their favorite local places would be criminal operations in Vegas--for very obvious reasons. Las Vegas is squeaky clean compared to much of the nation, let alone the world.

Las Vegas is THE hub of conventions in the US--nothing even comes close--not Orlando or NY and certainly not Chicago. All cities have some convention space but are laughably small amounts compared to Las Vegas. From the biggest associations that require millions of square feet of show space to the associations that only need 50,000 feet know Las Vegas can give them what they want at a good price. There can be 10 shows going on at once, including a couple of big ones that have a hundred thousand attendees each.
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Well nice surprise 06 maestro , good to hear from you. 60 miles out! towards red rock or north towards Mesquite? Retired myself as well, but am looking to pick up a low stress part time job. Boredom plus a little extra to play with.

Over the hump to .... 5 degrees cooler and around 2% of the LV valley population. Much lower insurance and taxes are turning this place into a boomtown. I'm afraid that after the 4 lane highway is finished through the pass, it will really start growing too fast. There are 3 stoplights in a community spread out for 10 miles. Also, it is an unincorporated town--likely the largest in the USA. No local mayor and lazy blood-sucking bureaucrats raising taxes. Cops are from the county (Nye) Everyone in my area is retired people--all nice homes with 1/2 to 1 .2 acres. I love it out here.

I am considering going back to work--just a little bit. Maybe one week a month would be enough. 700 to 800 miles a week commuting would get old, but I know people that have done that for decades.
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Thanks for the interesting topic, I learned a lot.
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So what is up for the winter season?
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So how is Las Vegas handling the current situation?
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So how is Las Vegas handling the current situation?


It would be a good time to come to miss the crowds. But all casinos are locked up. People here are antsy, most I've talked to want the governor to lift the business shutdown. Getting back to regular routine is what they want.
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But all casinos are locked up.

Whore houses too?!
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But all casinos are locked up.

Whore houses too?!


I suppose you could argue they are essential[:D]. But yes they are closed as well. Liquor stores are open, though no in store purchase(delivery only). Its weird, grocery stores(essential) are open and they sell liquor. Gas stations, car mechanics, box hardware stores.(Lowes,Home Depot all considered essential.)
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One more month of this has passed. Is Vegas still holding out? Or has any major companies declared bankruptcy? Does the new sport franchises suffer badly?
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Hey Orm,

Still the Casinos are waiting. Not sure what their finacial conditions are. Smaller ones most likely hurting more. Mid May I read 3 on the strip may open. with 50% capacity allowed. Every other Slot machine will be closed to allow social distancing. Gambling is still a big part of their revenue.

This whole thing has hurt badly and will continue to hurt the casino business. My personal belief is open up the whole state completely. Those who don't want to come in and feel they need to stay distance can follow their own social distancing. There should be no liability on the part of a business being open. Make it a free choice for each individual. They want to wear a mask, fine. you don't want to wear a mask fine as well.
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Thank you for the update.
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nice advise, I thinks I'll take it if got the chance to go to Las Vegas
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