Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[schroedi]

That's true, but with this picture I only wanted to show that the bird has the capability to use more than nine hardpoints. Just change the Meteors to MICAs or think of it as a 2019 variant when Meteor is available.

[MR_BURNS2]

@ Jan Masterson You seem to have a lot of info/knowledge about all sorts of aircraft, do you have anything on the IRST of Su-27/Mig-29 variants? I'am not sure if they work right here, afaik they can detect only, and not ID like a TGP.

[MR_BURNS2]

Super Hornets

Add Amraams for stations 2 and 8, they can carry 8 without and 7 with targeting pod/ATFLIR.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-p ... 670344.jpg

http://www.ausairpower.net/USN/000-Supe ... oadout.jpg

According to this pic they could carry 4 more with only 1 centerline fueltank, but it's questionable whether they would use such a loadout operationally.

[ClaudeJ]

ORIGINAL: MR_BURNS2

@ Jan Masterson You seem to have a lot of info/knowledge about all sorts of aircraft, do you have anything on the IRST of Su-27/Mig-29 variants? I'am not sure if they work right here, afaik they can detect only, and not ID like a TGP.

MR_BURNS2 I wish I had a lot of knowledge, I only have decent sources.

Now regarding the Russian optronic system you mentioned, it seems to be a combined IRST/Laser Range Finder/HMCS. Designation are quite confusing (due to Cyrillic transliteration I guess), the whole targeting system's designation on Mig-29 would be OEPS-29 and OLS-27 on Su-27. As far as I can get, first generation MiG29 (before M version)hadn't TV channels nor a capable display (only a monochrome CRT display where all tracks are merged, and that was back in the '90!) so I would say that you are right up to that point.

Here's a MiG enthusiast's testimony:
"The primary sensor in the close-in fight is the IRST, which can detect, locate, and track a target from its IR signature, and which can direct the seeker-heads of the IR-homing R-73 missiles towards the target. At short BVR ranges, the IRST can function as a passive target detection system, freeing the pilot from reliance on his radar."
"Jane's MIG-29: At the Controls" (1998), Jon Lake, ISBN: 978-0004721446

Su-27's system is said to provide same feature, simply with extended range and angle, while it's bigger and heavier.

Now the OEPS-29M (on the MiG-29M, you get it) does have a TV channel too. ("Mig-29 Evolution" (2007), Andrey Formin, AirForces Monthly #226.)



Not sure about its abilities though. Yefim Gordon write about long-range target identification up to 6km with MiG-29M/K's OSL-M TV channel but that should be viewed with all due caution to Mr. Gordon's work, as he does have quite a reputation of being... creative (ask Tom Cooper, just for fun).
"Mikoyan MiG-29, Famous Russian Aircraft" (2006), Yefim Gordon, ISBN: 978-1857802313.

From DCS simulator:
"The OEPS-27 electro-optical sighting system consist of the OLS-27 infrared/laser search-and-track system (IRST) and the Shchel-3UM helmet-mounted target designator and is controlled by the Ts-100 digital computer. The OLS-27 sensor is placed forward of the cockpit canopy in the centre. The system acquires and tracks aerial targets by their thermal signatures. The helmet-mounted sight and the laser range finder of the IRST can also be used to visually acquire and determine coordinates of air and surface targets."
http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/e ... s/flanker/

Hope it helps.

[ojms]

Please can you update the Royal Navy Type 26 GCS to include a 24 cell VLS Mk41 as per this document:

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/comm ... t_Ship.pdf

It looks like it is going to have a combination of Tomahawk, RUM-139 and Harpoon/LSRAM

Thanks.

[MR_BURNS2]

Thanks, that helps.

[MR_BURNS2]

#182 - Hawk 208 Malaysia AF Hawk 208 appear to have refueling probes, and AIM-9M, too.

http://img.planespotters.net/photo/2630 ... 263931.jpg

[MrGandi]

I’ve a question regarding a US Navy boat called “Mark V Special Operations Craft”.

In DB there is this entry:
#321 – US Mk5 Pegasus PB – United States (Navy), 2003
Ether it’s a different boat or it needs to be updated including the picture and title.
Is it possible to make the Mark V Special Operations Craft as a docking boat so it can be carried by other ships?

Many thanks
Eddy

[ojms]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/cont ... b-aircraft

UK F-35B has test carried the Paveway IV (http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index. ... pon?ID=519) Can we get this added as a loadout? I imagine that it would have a similar load out to the USMC F-35B (http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index. ... aft?ID=534) ie, two internal only, two internal long range and six external.

Thanks.

[xavierv]

Good source on Rafale M latest batch (with AESA)
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/2563/LXQV5v.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/3839/nAEnDT.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/8134/4jckUx.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img912/879/zKuFCS.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/9435/Fg98rD.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img912/6991/KJpcFL.jpg

[ClaudeJ]

Thank you navyrecognition. I guess author is Henri-Pierre Grolleau? It's almost a literal translation of his article in November Air Fan issue.

PS: he is: http://shop.keypublishing.com/issue/View/issue/AI876 ( I didn't recognize the logo on your pics :/)

Still some details I want to sort out before I post my suggestions btw.

[nocacounsel]

I'm not sure the procedure and thus apologize in advance (especially if it doesn't qualify), but is there any way to request that a unit be added to this database?

The A-3 Skywarrior had a long career and was retired in 1991. It was apparently the US Navy's best carrier-based tanker (the KA-3B or EKA-3B, the unit I specifically seek).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A ... warrior.29
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... /ka-3b.htm

Thanks!

[schroedi]

#1008 R08 Queen Elizabeth currently has "Aircraft carrier catapult" and "Aircraft carrier arresting gear" ingame, instead of these it should have Ski Jump.

[ojms]

ORIGINAL: schroedi

#1008 R08 Queen Elizabeth has "Aircraft carrier catapult" and "Aircraft carrier arresting gear", instead of these it should have Ski Jump.

Also that same ship has the Aster-16 missiles when it doesn't appear to have any SAMs.

[schroedi]

#312 #717 #2519 #2520 La Fayette Frigate (France) should have 8-cell Crotale launcher. At the moment it has a 4-cell launcher ingame.
La Fayette
La Fayette

[CV60]

Minor DB issue in DB3000: JP.233 (Weapon_223) is listed as being an anti-runway weapon. While it was designed primarily for anti-runway use, it did so by using a shaped charge to blow a small a hole in the runway and inserting an explosive charge to form a difficult-to-repair void under the tarmac. Accordingly, it could be used against any target that is similar to a runway, such as rail marshalling yards or permanent supply depots.

http://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?6 ... enial-mine

[mikmykWS]

Logged up until this point. Thanks guys!

Mike

[ClaudeJ]

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Hi there,

here's my take on Rafale family.

Please note that sources are scarce, more than usual, and not much detailed. That is to say that I'll probably be proved wrong, and I hope so!, once reliable data will be published (I wouldn't hold my breath though) and what you have here are my best, somehwat educated, guesses.

Sources:

- "Guerre aérienne en Libye" (2011), Jean-Marc Tanguy, Raids Hors-Série n°40.
- "Harmattan : Récits et Révélations" (2012), Jean-Marc Tanguy, ISBN 978-2915243451.
- "La révolution Rafale" (2003), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Marines & Forces Navales Hors-Série n°7.
- "Le guide des avions de combat" (2012), Guillaume Steuer, Air & Cosmos Hors-Série n°21.
- "Le porte-avions Charles-de-Gaulle & Son groupe aérien embarqué", Jean-Michel Guhl, ISBN: 978-2912838278.
- "Le Rafale au combat" (2012), Guillaume Steuer & Guillaume Lecompte-Boinet, Air & Cosmos Hors-Série n°21.
- "Les avions de combat en action" (2004), Frédéric Lert, Raids Hors-Série n°15.
- "Les défis du Rafale, ses derniers exploits" (2012), Guillaume Steuer & Guillaume Lecompte-Boinet, Air & Cosmos Hors-Série n°23.
- "Rafale, Chasseur Omnirôle" (2014), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Supplément au AirFan n°431 octobre 2014.
- "Secrets des Forces Aériennes Stratégiques" (2013), Emmanuel Huberdeau, Air & Cosmos Hors-Série n°27.
- Fox Three magazine http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/sp ... or_rafale/
- Jane's All the World's Aircraft 2004-2005.
- http://forum.aviationsmilitaires.net/
- http://rafalefan.e-monsite.com/
- http://rafalenews.blogspot.be/
- http://sistemasdearmas.com.br/
- http://www.anciens-cols-bleus.net/
- http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/12/bu ... 867-08.asp
- http://www.aviation-francaise.com/
- http://www.checksix-forums.com/ Various fine people actually in the forces.
- http://www.dassault-aviation.com
- http://www.defesanet.com.br/
- http://www.ffaa.net/
- http://www.mbda-systems.com/
- http://www.netmarine.net/bat/porteavi/cdg/hist2002.htm
- http://www.news.admin.ch/NSBSubscriber/ ... /25029.pdf
- http://www.performance-publique.budget. ... PGM146.htm
- http://www.portail-aviation.com/
- http://www.rafale-schweiz.ch/images/sto ... ical_F.pdf
- http://www.snecma.com/-military-engines-.html
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVah8EeJezI

+ specific sources, see below.

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[*]#1878 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk1 -- 1986[/color]
[*]#242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 -- 1997[/color]
It CanActAsSensor. (Mirage 2000D crews sometimes use it to find their tanker, cf. - "La Guerre Vue du Ciel" (2013), Lieutenant-colonel Marc "Claudia" Scheffler & Frédéric Lert, ISBN: 978-2915243567).

[*]#1873 - MICA IR[/color]
It CanActAsSensor.
- http://www.defesanet.com.br/rafale/noti ... fference-/
- http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/def ... ta-fusion/
Its minimum range is 0.27 nm (500 m, from Jane's Air-Launched Weapons 2002).


[*]#258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II -- 1995[/color]
Date: is 1994
You may have heard about the Block 2 Mod2 upgrade and the Brazilian "new motor". As far as I know, the upgrade focused on improving the ECCM and the Brazilian connection simply is a local made engine, identical to French one, for missiles used by Brazilian forces. Thus, since we don't have further details for now, a new entry would only be cosmetic. Up to you.
- http://www.senat.fr/rap/a12-150-8/a12-150-81.pdf
- http://www.defesanet.com.br/laad2011/no ... k-2-Mod-2/
- "Dassault Super Étendard - Les Matériels de l'armée de l'Air et de l'Aéronavale n°10" (2010), Frédéric Lert, ISBN 978-2-35250-175-6.

[*]#333 - SCALP EG[/color]
Surface Max Range: is 216 nm (400 km)
- "Jane’s Strategic Weapon Systems" (2005)
- http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/decou ... ir-surface

[*]#2903 - RBE-2 PESA[/color]
[*]#4372 - RBE-2AA AESA[/color]

Name is "RBE2-PESA" for #2903 and "RBE2-AEASA" for #4372.
- https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwid ... rbe2-radar
Along to what's already in the DB, their air-to-ground mode feature:
"automatic Terrain-Following/Terrain-Avoidance/Threat-Avoidance (TF/TA2)" and "high-resolution mapping".
- "Jane's Radar and Electronic Warfare Systems" 2003.
The air-to-air mode also feature:
"Non-Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR)", it can track 40 targets simultaneously and engage 8.
- http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/issue/c ... Hb_tZ6Ai3Q
RBE2-AEASA (#4372) is supposed to have a 40% range increase and 10° larger coverage each side (from 120° to 140°).
- "Rafale, Chasseur Omnirôle" (2014), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Supplément au AirFan n°431 octobre 2014.
- https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/defau ... bat_ok.pdf


[*]#2252 - DDM-NG -- 2013[/color]
It could also act as an IRST ala F-35's AN/AAQ-37 EO-DAS.
- http://www.portail-aviation.com/2014/02 ... _8513.html
- http://www.defesanet.com.br/rafale/noti ... fference-/
I thus suggest to clone #2509 - AN/AAQ-37 EO-DAS and name it "DDM-NG", then add it to:
#3642 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2014-0, F03
#3643 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2019-0, F03
#2788 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2014-0, F03
#3230 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2019-0, F03
#2789 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2014-0, F03
#3231 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2019-0, F03

[*]#478 - SBU-38 AASM/D [Hammer, Mk82, GPS-Only] -- 2006[/color]
[*]#1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR] -- 2014+[/color]
[*]#2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + SALH] -- 2011[/color]
Date: #478 is 2007, #1603 is 2009, #2596 is 2013.
- http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipeme ... -modulaire
- http://www.air-cosmos.com/2014/10/24/26 ... e-aasm-maj
- http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/fra ... mbs-06200/


Now that we are warmed up, let's deal with the Rafale itself. First with changes to be applied on all version, then changes specific to each version and eventually platform specific changes.



[*]#3639 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
[*]#3640 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
[*]#3641 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2011, F03
[*]#3642 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
[*]#3643 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
[*]#1749 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
[*]#560 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
[*]#2344 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2011-0, F03
[*]#2788 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
[*]#3230 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
[*]#1179 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2002, F01.1
[*]#2084 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2004, F01.1
[*]#35 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2009, F03
[*]#2345 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2011, F03
[*]#2789 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2014, F03
[*]#3231 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2019, F03
[/color]

Sensors: add #2241 - AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles
- http://www.defense.gouv.fr/content/down ... le/JVN.pdf

Stores/Loadouts:
- delete from all Rafale's stores and loadouts:
#1892 - AS.30L
#1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway
#1561 - BAT.120 Anti-Armour
#416 - BANG 125kg GPB
#415 - BANG 250kg GPB
#2061 - GBU-49/B Paveway II GPS/LGB [Mk82] (cleared but not operational yet, leave it on "2019" platforms)
#871 - GBU-24A/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109/B] (cleared but not operational yet, leave it on "2019" platforms)
#1533 - 1700 liter Drop Tank

- edit all "CAP" loadouts to have 2 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank and no other DT. (these DT, "RPL-711" in French parlance, are able to sustain supersonic speed while 2000 liters one, aka "RPL-751" are not. 3 DT loadouts have yet to be seen on Rafale M, and not talking about test sessions.)

Properties:
- add "Supermanouverability (5th Gen Fighters)". While it doesn't have vectored thrust, it's post stall maneuvering capabilities have been publicly demonstrated quite a lot so I think it does qualify. In anyway, if EF2000 Eurofighter Typhoon does for whatever reason (as it is in DB3K), then Rafale should too.
- Add "Terrain Following (Land: 200ft (60.9m), Sea: 100ft (30.5m))". (Couldn't figure out when exactly it

Propulsion:
Engine name: SNECMA M88-2
Specific fuel flow with full AB: 1.77 (was 2 kg/h/kg).
- "Turbofan and Turbojet Engines: database handbook" (2007), Élodie Roux, ISBN 978-2-9529380-1-3.


(Note: we are now getting at a somewhat trivial issue that almost gave me headache. I wanted to figure the mass of each subversion but faced a wall because such intels are classified, not joking. Then I lowered my ambition and gone for a decent estimation for all variants but faced lots of discrepancies among sources so I eventually choose to go with official figures which are quite generic but still are... official.)


[*]#3639 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
[*]#3640 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
[*]#3641 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2011, F03
[*]#3642 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
[*]#3643 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
[/color]
Empty Weight: 9786 (was 9500).
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/layout/set/p ... hier_2.pdf
Fuel: 4 450 kg (Capitaine Cedric Ruet)


[*]#1749 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
[*]#560 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
[*]#2344 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2011-0, F03
[*]#2788 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
[*]#3230 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
[/color]
Empty Weight: 9566 (was 9500).
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipeme ... /le-rafale

(10 196 kg is confirmed for M version: http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/decou ... le-marine/)

[*]#1179 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2002, F01.1[/color]
Date: is 2001 to 2002 included.
Name: change "F01.1" to "LF1".
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Mounts:
- delete 1 x 30mm Giat 30/M791B gun (that early version had no gun fitted)
- delete 1xMLPx2 (that early version had no chaff launcher fitted)
Stores:
- delete #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and #1872 - MICA EM.
Loadouts:
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP" and "A/A: MICA, Standard CAP" loadouts.
- create a new loadout with 2 x and 2 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.
Comms: Delete "MICA Command Datalink" and "Link 16 JTIDS".

What's the point to have such a limited Rafale in the DB? Well, it was aboard Charles-de-Gaulle CVN, aka PACDG, during Héraclès mission in 2001-2002 and may have performed some CAP along Pakistan/Indian border during the May-June tensions.


[*]#2084 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2004, F01.1[/color]
Date: is 2002 to 2008.
Name: change F01.1 to F1.
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Loadouts:
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.
- edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 2 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank. Please add "2004" in its name, as it only became available that year.
Comms: Delete "Link 16 JTIDS".

[*]#35 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2009, F03[/color]
Date: is 2007. (While 12F only became fully ops on F2 in 2008, in March 2007 3 Rafale M F2 got on PACDG directly from CEAM and dropped their GBU12 over Afghanistan later that month in support of Dutch troops.)
Name: change "F03" to "F2".
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Stores: delete "#240 - AM.39 Exocet Blk I", "#479 - Damocles LDP Pod", "#478 - SBU-38 AASM/D".
Loadouts:
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
- delete "AM.39 Exocet" loadout, not clread for that standard.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
- delete "SBU-38 AASM" loadout, not cleared for that standard.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never seen so few GBU carried.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no #479 - Damocles LDP,no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional. (Buddy lasing were required.)
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 2 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.

[*]#2345 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2011, F03[/color]
Date: is 2009.
Name: change "F03" to "F3". (Actually encompass 3.1 to 3.3 so there's no need to create another platform.)
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Stores:
- delete "#240 - AM.39 Exocet Blk I".
- add "#258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II" and "#2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M".
Loadouts:
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
- delete "GBU-49/B GPS/LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
- edit "AM.39 Exocet" to have 1x #258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II and no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
- edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 2 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
- add "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" loadout with 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 1x #479 - Damocles LDP Pod, 4x #1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M, 2x [*]#1873 - MICA IR (optional) and 2x [*]#1872 - MICA EM (optional).

[*]#2789 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2014, F03[/color]
Name: change "F03" to "F3.4+"
Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
Stores:
- delete "#240 - AM.39 Exocet Blk I".
- add "#258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II" and "#2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M".
Loadouts:
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
- delete "GBU-49/B GPS/LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
- edit "AM.39 Exocet" to have 1x #258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II and no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
- edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 4 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.
Propulsion:
- Engine name: "SNECMA M88-4E"
(Thrust or consumption doesn't change afaik, extended service life is the main benefit).
http://www.snecma.com/-m88-.html

[*]#3231 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2019, F03[/color]
Date: is 2018.
Name: change "F03" to "F3R".
Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
Stores: add #1872 - MICA EM.
Loadouts:
- delete "A/A: Meteor, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
- delete "Light" bomb loadouts, never saw so few bombs carried.
- edit "A/A: Meteor, Standard CAP" to have 2 Meteor only (French don't want to use the two other Meteor hardpoints available), and to have 2x #1872 - MICA EM.
- edit "AM.39 Exocet" to have 1x #258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II and no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
- edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 4 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.

<insert coffee break here>

[*]#1749 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02[/color]
Date: is 2006. http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipeme ... /le-rafale
Name: change "F02" to "F2".
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Stores:
- delete "#479 - Damocles LDP Pod".
- add "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]".
Loadouts:
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": delete Damocles LDP, have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
- edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
- add "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82]" loadout with 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 4x #1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82], 2x [*]#1873 - MICA IR (optional) and 2x [*]#1872 - MICA EM (optional).(Buddy lasing were required.)

[*]#560 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03[/color]
Name: change "F03" to "F3".
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Loadouts:
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
- delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, make MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.

[*]#2344 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2011-0, F03[/color]
Name: change "F03" to "F3.2".
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Stores:
- delete "#719 - ASMP-A". (While All Rafale are wired, Armée de l'Air's doctrine is to have a crew of 2 do the nuc. deterrence job.)
- delete "#2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M" (came in 2013).
- add "#1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR]".
Loadouts:
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- delete "ASMP-A" loadout.
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
- delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, make MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
- edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional, have "#1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M" instead "SBU-64 AASM/M".

[*]#2788 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03[/color]
Name: change "F03" to "F3.4+"
Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
Stores:
- delete "#719 - ASMP-A". (While All Rafale are wired, Armée de l'Air's doctrine is to have a crew of 2 do the nuc. deterrence job.)
Loadouts:
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- delete "ASMP-A" loadout.
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
- delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
- edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
Propulsion:
- Engine name: "SNECMA M88-4E"
(Thrust or consumption doesn't change afaik, extended service life is the main benefit).
http://www.snecma.com/-m88-.html

[*]#3230 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03[/color]
Date: is 2018.
Name: change "F03" to "F3R".
Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
Stores:
- delete "#719 - ASMP-A". (While All Rafale are wired, Armée de l'Air's doctrine is to have a crew of 2 do the nuc. deterrence job.)
- add #1872 - MICA EM.
Loadouts:
- delete "ASMP-A" loadout.
- delete "A/A: Meteor, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
- delete "Light" bomb loadouts, never saw so few bombs carried.
- edit "A/A: Meteor, Standard CAP" to have 2 Meteor only (French don't want to use the two other Meteor hardpoints available), and to have 2x #1872 - MICA EM.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
- edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.

<we are almost done>

[*]#3639 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02[/color]
Date: is 2006. http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipeme ... /le-rafale
Name: change "F02" to "F2".
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Stores:
- delete "#479 - Damocles LDP Pod".
- add "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]".
Loadouts:
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": delete Damocles LDP, have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
- edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
- add "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82]" loadout with 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 4x #1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82], 2x [*]#1873 - MICA IR (optional) and 2x [*]#1872 - MICA EM (optional).(Buddy lasing were required.)

[*]#3640 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03[/color]
Name: change "F03" to "F3".
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Loadouts:
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
- delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, make MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.

[*]#3641 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2011, F03[/color]
Name: change "F03" to "F3.2".
Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
Stores:
- delete "#2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M" (came in 2013).
- add "#1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR]".
Loadouts:
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
- delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, make MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
- edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional, have "#1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M" instead "SBU-64 AASM/M".

[*]#3642 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03[/color]
Name: change "F03" to "F3.4+"
Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
Stores:
Loadouts:
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
- delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
- delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
- edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
Propulsion:
- Engine name: "SNECMA M88-4E"
(Thrust or consumption doesn't change afaik, extended service life is the main benefit).
http://www.snecma.com/-m88-.html

[*]#3643 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03[/color]
Date: is 2018.
Name: change "F03" to "F3R".
Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
Stores:
- add #1872 - MICA EM.
Loadouts:
- delete "A/A: Meteor, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
- delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
- delete "Light" bomb loadouts, never saw so few bombs carried.
- edit "A/A: Meteor, Standard CAP" to have 2 Meteor only (French don't want to use the two other Meteor hardpoints available), and to have 2x #1872 - MICA EM.
- edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
- edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
- edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.


Voilà!

Edit: just got a new source regarding early Rafale M and 2000l DT("Le porte-avions Charles-de-Gaulle & Son groupe aérien embarqué", Jean-Michel Guhl, ISBN: 978-2912838278.).
Edit2: SNECMA M88-9 would require structural changes that are quite expensive and thus would only be done if a rich export customer pays for it.

[DeltaV112]

T-50/PAK-FA

Air-to-Air loadout should have updated R-77 variant, (R-77M/K-77M/Izdeliye 180) AESA seeker probably with 95% pk, range is unclear, probably go with minimum of identical to RVV-SD and say 60 nm.
PAK-FA also seems to have support for internal carriage of Kh-58(2 in forward bay) and Kh-35(2 per bay) missiles.

Various SA-10/20/21

48N6DM has wrong range of 80 nm, should be 130 nm. Also missing is 48N6M, domestic version of 48N6E2.
9M96/E has wrong range of 30 nm, should be 22 nm. Missing is 9M96M/E2

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: DeltaV112

T-50/PAK-FA

Air-to-Air loadout should have updated R-77 variant, (R-77M/K-77M/Izdeliye 180) AESA seeker probably with 95% pk, range is unclear, probably go with minimum of identical to RVV-SD and say 60 nm.
PAK-FA also seems to have support for internal carriage of Kh-58(2 in forward bay) and Kh-35(2 per bay) missiles.

Various SA-10/20/21

48N6DM has wrong range of 80 nm, should be 130 nm. Also missing is 48N6M, domestic version of 48N6E2.
9M96/E has wrong range of 30 nm, should be 22 nm. Missing is 9M96M/E2

Need links, photos or anything that backs up your information as we might need to one day.

Thanks!

Mike