New Forum Policy for JTCS-is this approved by Matrix

[torpoint]

HEY, here you go urinating again RR ! Carry on cos, more people realise what you are about, rather than you accuse
others of being the problem. Is MW running behind you I wonder, holding the 'poop scooper?'
You really should have stuck to giving helpful advice rather than try control everyone elses' opinions?

[Deputy]

Lucky thing the pinocchio effect was limited to one wooden puppet. There would be someone on here with a nose 10 feet long!! [:D]

[OttoVonBlotto]

ORIGINAL: torpoint
If you only want posts that further the improvement of JTCS and delete any others, then you make a sad mistake, something we Brits fought for, 'Freedom of Speech'.

Oh please what an old chestnut, there are many reasons why the British entered the second world war, free speech wasn't anywhere near the top 10.

[MrRoadrunner]

I did write that no animals were hurt during my typing? [>:]

RR

[MrRoadrunner]

ORIGINAL: Otto von Blotto

ORIGINAL: torpoint
If you only want posts that further the improvement of JTCS and delete any others, then you make a sad mistake, something we Brits fought for, 'Freedom of Speech'.

Oh please what an old chestnut, there are many reasons why the British entered the second world war, free speech wasn't anywhere near the top 10.

Otto, Freedom of Speech was never given so that anyone can say anything anywhere they want to. Matrix is a private company and has rules regarding their forums?
Disagreeing with the direction of the development team is one thing. Constant moaning and crying is another.
Some cannot understand that. It's O.K., let him go!
At least that is what my dad said when the fish on the hook was too small.
He also said to let him grow and we'll catch him later. [:)]

Crazy rants and lies are part of the package? [8|]
Stop by the CS forum and watch a movie. I heard there is a new one. [;)]



RR

[OttoVonBlotto]

I'm a fisherman and your dad was a wise man.

[torpoint]

Maybe you know less about British spirit than I do Otto?
As for little fish RR, YOU ARE MORE AKIN TO THE WORMS FISH
ARE FED WITH, I SUGGEST, with the respect you deserve of course?

[JWW]

I must say that this thread is entertaining if nothing else.

[OttoVonBlotto]

ORIGINAL: torpoint

Maybe you know less about British spirit than I do Otto?

Really maybe so, maybe not, maybe I know a different part of it than you do. ? I am British and I live on the south coast within 1000 yards of a beach that was under invasion threat, they are still finding bombs ever year. My parents and grandparents lived on the outskirts of London during the blitz, My Nan worked in the munitions factory, my mother played around bomb shelters while V1's engines cut out overhead and the Luftwaffe did it's best to blow the feck out of them, shrapnel got embedded in their front door more than once. My grand Uncle was a tank commander in the desert but sadly he never came back. Others of my family were also lost and injured none of them did it for free speech.

My father ran over a land mine while driving a military vehicle in the desert in the 50's suez you remember that don't you the fiasco no one dare mention and another great British free speech event. my brother has also been in the forces believe me in the army free speech is the least of their concerns.

[Deputy]

Seriously, I suggest those that can't agree make use of the little green ignore button right next to the "Buddy" button. It works wonders. Idiotic and dufuss posts become invisible. Does wonders for the blood pressure.[:)]

[OttoVonBlotto]

seriously you are suggesting those that believe in free speech use the ignore button. ?

[Deputy]

LOL...thanks to whoever PMed me about Otto's post. He is already on my ignore list. [:D] See...it's working great

[Arctic Blast]

Seeing how well this is going, I can't imagine why Jason would possibly not want to deal with this sort of thing in the sub forum...[8|]

[Deputy]

ORIGINAL: Arctic Blast

Seeing how well this is going, I can't imagine why Jason would possibly not want to deal with this sort of thing in the sub forum...[8|]

He did. That is the whole problem. There seems to be a conflict within Matrix rules and regulations. One rule says the thread gets locked down and another rule says posts are deleted. That was the point of the OP. We'd like to know WHICH rule is in effect. [:)]

[BAL]

ORIGINAL: JW

I must say that this thread is entertaining if nothing else.

This is the best thread ever.

[JWW]

I've also learned a new acronym.  I had no idea what OP meant when I saw it, but finally figured it out. So this is entertaining and educational.

[junk2drive]

OP was the little red head in Mayberry.

[JWW]

I was actually thinking Observation Post but knew that couldn't be it in this thread.

[torpoint]

Yeah Otto, awesome history, same as my family actually.

[GoodGuy]

ORIGINAL: Otto von Blotto

...... believe me in the army free speech is the least of their concerns.

In WWII, at least a free Britain was a concern, actually, well along with England's will to protect her colonies, her backbone of resources and the spheres of political and economical interests/influences.

Also, quite contrary to your statement, quite some members of the US units that freed my hometown (Cologne) insisted that they actually did have that spirit and they told citizens, after they understood that - during living under a dictatorship - there wasn't just black and white, that they had worked hard (and had risked their lifes) for current and future generations of "Krauts" to enjoy freedom (of speech). The same was pointed out by the Brits who then provided the occupation force for the Rheinland. Does that mean that each and every Allied officer or grunt had that spirit? No.
But does that mean no soldier was preoccupied by that spirit? No.

Vital British (and American) figures, who were in charge right after the war, actually kept up that spirit and were substantial in implementing that basic right (freedom of speech), and the Brits were a driving - if not the leading force - when it came to establishing a free media landscape in (North-)Germany:

On behalf of the Foreign Office, the British military administration was tasked with rebuilding the press, radio stations and cinemas. A special unit (PRISC = Public Relations and Information Services Control) was then in charge of the reconstruction, and hired a few German editors and journalists. One of those activities involved the creation of a weekly magazine ("Diese Woche" = This Week), which was launched in 1946, with a British officer as acting chief editor, and with the British unit providing training and support for everything dealing with how to set up a free and thoroughly researching editorial department.

After publishing a number of very critical articles (where some had been smuggled into the magazine), covering the fact that the British military administration was absolutely overstrained when it came to organize food and coal distribution (which led to the "Hunger-Winter" 1946/47 and the "Hunger-Year 1947") and the fact that there was no political intention {until 1947} to up the food level for Germany, the British Foreign Office ordered it to be passed into German hands, issuing their second license for a weekly magazine in Germany. The Brits just didn't want to publish a magazine with highly critical articles, where officers of their own military branch were involved, so, instead of prohibiting the publication of the magazine, they just got rid of it. This magazine (now called "DER SPIEGEL" = The Mirror) became the spearhead of investigative journalism in Germany, as it developed a history of investigation and publication of (national) political and economical scandals, since 1950.

That said, the Brits who were in charge in the Foreign Office and in the PRISC unit had that spirit, for sure.

ORIGINAL: barker

tried to post a question - that all threads on the board should adhere to the new policy....it was deleted

Now, regarding freedom of speech in a forum (which is not connected and shall not be confused with any existing constitutional right that protects free speech):
If the moderator of a privately owned forum feels like deleting posts or limiting free spech, then he has the right to do so. If the mod of this general forum feels like deleting my post, say because my detailed example above is deemed to be off-topic, I'd consider it to be a bit too strict, but hey ... still fair enough, it's his right.

A user who's got a problem with such actions may express his/her discontent, but after 1 or 2 times such user might want to actually either go and frequent other forums or refrain from emitting confusing threads that are just trying to ship around a (sub forum) mod's "powers".

While any form of more strict forum control may be inconvenient (or frustrating, depending on the POV), trying to bypass the mods/devs, by posting it in the general forum of that particular dev's publisher, is a bit off, imho, no matter who's right or wrong.
This could actually be addressed via PM or e-mail.

My 2 cents