Anybody playing this yet?

[Sensei.Tokugawa]

Anybody playing this yet? Considering buying, an avid student of the WWII Pacific theatre struggle interested in PBEMing that possibly. How's the realism and historic accuracy here?

[Anguille]

Hi,

I am playing it right now. I started a pbem with gwgardner, a veteran of the game (and all Wastelands interactive games). I don't have the time to play a monster like War in the Pacific and think that's almost no game of this scope except SotP. So it's the right game for me. I believe that they put a lot of efforts in the historical accuracy of the game (units, scenarios). The AI in their games is not bad at all (just lost another game of Strategic War in Europe). PBEM is fairly simple as you have to copy your pbem save and send it by mail...they didn't have the Slitherine PBEM system when they made the game, but it works nice. There are some videos on youtube you might want to check (mostly tutorials). War Plan Pacific is another game i am looking at which is much simpler (in terms of scale).

Cheers

[Magpius]

Game is still good fun.
Setting FOW to 1 hex on Jungle scenarios makes for a challenge.

[Nimrod 9th]

If you consider War Plan Pacific be careful. Make sure you know what you're getting. I own War Plan Pacific and enjoy it. It's one of my regulars. BUT ... make sure you understand the scope of the game and what the game designer was trying to accomplish. Land warfare is EXTREMELY abstract and NOT a major player in the game. Carriers dominate this game and that was the intent of the designer. Once you understand how the game works (and it isn't hard) you can play the entire WWII Pacific in 1.5 to 2 hours. But again, that was what the game designer wanted. AI is okay but not great. A couple strange game balance issues like lots of Japanese invasion transports but very few Allied and there are others. Please don't misunderstand me ... I ENJOY this game ... but I knew what I was getting.

[Anguille]

ORIGINAL: Nimrod 9th

If you consider War Plan Pacific be careful. Make sure you know what you're getting. I own War Plan Pacific and enjoy it. It's one of my regulars. BUT ... make sure you understand the scope of the game and what the game designer was trying to accomplish. Land warfare is EXTREMELY abstract and NOT a major player in the game. Carriers dominate this game and that was the intent of the designer. Once you understand how the game works (and it isn't hard) you can play the entire WWII Pacific in 1.5 to 2 hours. But again, that was what the game designer wanted. AI is okay but not great. A couple strange game balance issues like lots of Japanese invasion transports but very few Allied and there are others. Please don't misunderstand me ... I ENJOY this game ... but I knew what I was getting.

Thanks...i do realise what it is. It would be for my netbook because i can't play SotP well on it.

At this point, Storm over the Pacific is what i need. I'd be happy with a lighter "Strategic War in the Pacific" too but don't think they plan to do it [:(]

[Sensei.Tokugawa]

Thanks for all the feedback and other remarks, I think I am slowly developing quite a complete picture - I am studying the game manual on my e-book reader at the same time. So - anybody willing to accept my challenge if / when I buy the game this weekend and once I finally get over the manual?

[Magpius]

I'd be up for a go.
But am rather rusty.
And alas my turn rate can be a little sporadic, as real life often intervenes.
Small scenario to trial?

[Sensei.Tokugawa]

That's great, Agent S, you're on; I understand your apprehensions, but let me just assure you that I am also not a sprinter at returning the turns, say a week plus is on average an interval so no sweat. Besides the very start is supposed to be slow anyway. As a matter of fact first I need to buy the game and study the manual, I only happen to have the demo installed and browsed the manual. How many turns an average scenario lasts? Can you save that while working on a turn and get back to it later on to complete?

[Magpius]

I've only played this A.i.
My turn return rate is 3-4 days.
I've never thought about mid turn saves.
Because I generally play the medium scenarios, not the bigger campaigns.
Others more experienced than I could answer this.
But reasonably sure it does. Might test it.

[Sensei.Tokugawa]

Fine with my , I am inclined to get the game anyway, but still need to find out if my bank is willing to transfer the money from my account to my pre-paid card - the last time I tried to buy a game on Friday, I first had had the impression the money was gone only to find out that they were transferred no sooner than on Monday next week. Then it is likely to take me roughly two weeks to study the manual and get a feel for the game engine and the system implemented.

One last thing - do you experience a sudden CPU's temperature increase - for me the amplitude reaches 20 degrees which is nearly half the normal temperature higher, something I don't like at all, but maybe it's a problem with the demo - it has certain bugs as it seems. Browsed the forums, but so far I haven't found anyone reporting such phenomenon.

And lastly, do you use yourself and suggest using any custom made mods that enhance realism? I read that the naval model is not very thorough here.

[Magpius]

Haha mods, check out my aar. Okinawa link

[Magpius]

Pm sent

[Sensei.Tokugawa]

ORIGINAL: Anguille


It would be for my netbook because i can't play SotP well on it.

And why is that so in your case I wonder? I also have just uninstalled from my laptop and let that only for my desktop machine - handles a sudden CPU temperature increase better. Soon after I launch the SotP it rises for about 20 degress and even though it's still well within the tolerance for the unit type I didn't like it a bit. I understand there's no way to combat that successfully? I tried changing the preferences, but to no avail - must be a problem with the game engine. No other game of mine behaves like this as a matter of fact.

Secondly, provided I don't finally get disenchanted enough to shelve that, I'd also be up for a campaign game rather, from what I have seen in the tutorial and according the impression I had reading the manual, that is where the game gets really strategic, shorter scenarios seem to stick to a rather oversimplified land,air and naval warfare model - not that much of a problem, basic factors are still modelled quite satisfactorily - but the strength of this game - if any; I really got pissed of with that heating my CPU up - lies not on tactical or operational, but strategic level indeed. I think that even Strategic Command the Pacific theater handles carriers duels a bit better, but I am ready to change my opinion if anyone offers me a chance.

[Anguille]

ORIGINAL: burroughs

ORIGINAL: Anguille


It would be for my netbook because i can't play SotP well on it.

And why is that so in your case I wonder? I also have just uninstalled from my laptop and let that only for my desktop machine - handles a sudden CPU temperature increase better. Soon after I launch the SotP it rises for about 20 degress and even though it's still well within the tolerance for the unit type I didn't like it a bit. I understand there's no way to combat that successfully? I tried changing the preferences, but to no avail - must be a problem with the game engine. No other game of mine behaves like this as a matter of fact.

Secondly, provided I don't finally get disenchanted enough to shelve that, I'd also be up for a campaign game rather, from what I have seen in the tutorial and according the impression I had reading the manual, that is where the game gets really strategic, shorter scenarios seem to stick to a rather oversimplified land,air and naval warfare model - not that much of a problem, basic factors are still modelled quite satisfactorily - but the strength of this game - if any; I really got pissed of with that heating my CPU up - lies not on tactical or operational, but strategic level indeed. I think that even Strategic Command the Pacific theater handles carriers duels a bit better, but I am ready to change my opinion if anyone offers me a chance.

Actually, my biggest problem with SotP on my netbook is that it's too small. I like to play it on a bigger screen. It's also a little slow. I play the game on my laptop mostly.

[gwgardner]

You can save a turn at any time and resume. Also note that when you click the 'advance' from one country to another, the game does an autosave. Example, playing the Allies, you finish the US sub-turn, and go to the UK. The game just saved the state at the end of the US turn.