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Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/14/2009 7:54:27 PM   
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Hi: Noted that the range values for some ship's guns have a "*" next to the value.
Does this indicate AA range?
C/n find anything in the manual.
Thx.
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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/14/2009 9:32:22 PM   
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was wondering about this myself.

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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/14/2009 9:49:59 PM   
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The range given is for surface engagement.
The * indicates it is AA capable, but it's range is defined elsewhere. Check the devices in the editor.

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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/14/2009 10:08:34 PM   
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Yep, that is just a quick way for you to denote a DP weapon. The range given is for surface engagements, as noted above.

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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/14/2009 10:49:09 PM   
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Do the Yamato's big guns have a '*'?

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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/15/2009 12:25:38 AM   
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Do the Yamato's big guns have a '*'?


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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/15/2009 1:24:01 AM   
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Do the Yamato's big guns have a '*'?


Technically Nagato and Mutsu *should* have the * for the first 2 years of the war...granted those submunitions were virtually useless...but who's keeping track of that?

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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/15/2009 4:47:42 AM   
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quote:

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Do the Yamato's big guns have a '*'?


Technically Nagato and Mutsu *should* have the * for the first 2 years of the war...granted those submunitions were virtually useless...but who's keeping track of that?


Didn't Yamato and Musashi have 'shotgun' capable shot from their main guns? I thought I remembered reading about the Leyte gulf invasion and that the big BB's fired little bb's at the attacking American aircraft. (not that they were effective, though.) I only remember because the captains were very reluctant to fire the shot because they tore the crap out of the insides of the guns.

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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/15/2009 4:56:58 AM   
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All of the large caliber Japanese naval guns (8in - 18in) were capable of firing rounds that would probably best be classed as Antiair incendiaries - basically a shell that burst open at a certain range filled with hundreds of small incendiary fragments.

They were generally ineffective, and as you say were bad on the guns. Some people speculate it was improper storage of this type of ammo that made Mutsu go boom.

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Source - NavWeaps (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_18-45_t94.htm)

As were most Japanese warships, the Yamato and Musashi were provided with a special anti-aircraft incendiary shrapnel shell officially designated as "3 Shiki tsûjôdan" (Common Type 3) and supposedly nicknamed "The Beehive," but this could be apocryphal. This round weighed 2,998 lbs. (1,360 kg) and was filled with 900 incendiary-filled tubes. A time fuze was used to set the desired bursting distance, usually about 1,000 meters (1,100 yards) after leaving the muzzle. These projectiles were designed to expel the incendiary tubes in a 20 degree cone extending towards the oncoming aircraft with the projectile shell itself being destroyed by a bursting charge to increase the quantity of steel splinters. The incendiary tubes ignited about half a second later and burned for five seconds at 3,000 degrees C, producing a flame approximately 5 meters (16 feet) long.

The concept behind these shells was that the ship would put up a barrage pattern through which an attacking aircraft would have to fly. However, these shells were considered by US Navy pilots to be more of a visual spectacular than an effective AA weapon.


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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/16/2009 12:57:53 AM   
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FOW:
Thx for the info. BTW, is there a sort of "compendium" which has info pertaining
to items like this which are shown in the manual but not explained?

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RE: Naval Guns W/"*" Next To Range - 10/16/2009 3:44:30 AM   
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The movie "Otoko Tachi No Yamato" shows the Yamato's main guns being used in an AA role.  You can see that at around the 0:40 point of this excerpt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUl1mAjTTb0&feature=related

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