SCWAW Strategic Bombers

[Elessar2]

ORIGINAL: LoneRunner

Hi Bill. Please don't remove double-chit of heavy bombers without the support of a large group of WaW gamers. I think it would be a mistake.

Double-chit of heavy bombers allows USA and UK to implement a crushing bombing campaign over Germany by late 43. Which is historically accurate. The bombing campaign has to happen fast because the Allied player is attempting counter Germany's attack on Russia. Linked with a series of invasions, maybe knocking Italy out of the war, a bombing campaign provides another option for the Allied player.

Using single-chit research, level 5 bombers would not be developed until early 45 at best. Too late to have much of an impact on the war.

By late '43 both allied strategic air forces were getting shredded; likewise early '45 for the first operational L5's is also historical. I think L3's can still do a significant amount of damage without laying total waste to the entire countryside.

[LoneRunner]

ORIGINAL: Elessar2

ORIGINAL: LoneRunner

Hi Bill. Please don't remove double-chit of heavy bombers without the support of a large group of WaW gamers. I think it would be a mistake.

Double-chit of heavy bombers allows USA and UK to implement a crushing bombing campaign over Germany by late 43. Which is historically accurate. The bombing campaign has to happen fast because the Allied player is attempting counter Germany's attack on Russia. Linked with a series of invasions, maybe knocking Italy out of the war, a bombing campaign provides another option for the Allied player.

Using single-chit research, level 5 bombers would not be developed until early 45 at best. Too late to have much of an impact on the war.

By late '43 both allied strategic air forces were getting shredded; likewise early '45 for the first operational L5's is also historical. I think L3's can still do a significant amount of damage without laying total waste to the entire countryside.

Yes, Allied air forces were taking heavy losses in 1943 but so was Germany. The Battle of the Ruhr in March 43 and the bombing of Hamburg in 43 caused massive destruction. Speer confirmed that air raids severely disrupted Germany's efforts to increase production in 43.

Level 3 bombers can do significant damage if no anti-air is present. To offset anti-air the Allies need level 5s.

[HarrySmith]

What you guys, seem to not apprehend is that Level 5 strategic bombers (which are Jets) in 1943 is so totally unrealistic and they do not need fighter escorts as Germany at best has level 3 Fighters which come off worse in an encounter with the bombers. It is not that hard to throw some extra MMPs on research for strategic bombers for the USA. It is definitely worth the investment but I refuse to do it.

[HarrySmith]

What you guys, seem to not apprehend is that Level 5 strategic bombers (which are Jets) in 1943 is so totally unrealistic and they do not need fighter escorts as Germany at best has level 3 Fighters which come off worse in an encounter with the bombers. It is not that hard to throw some extra MMPs on research for strategic bombers for the USA. It is definitely worth the investment but I refuse to do it. If by 1943 going single chit strategic bombers are probably level 3 which still do ample bombing damage and is so much more realistic and doesnt create an imbalance. Let me play you as Allies and i will double chit the strat bombers and see how you then think it is a good option.

[HarrySmith]

What you guys, seem to not apprehend is that Level 5 strategic bombers (which are Jets) in 1943 is so totally unrealistic and they do not need fighter escorts as Germany at best has level 3 Fighters which come off worse in an encounter with the bombers. It is not that hard to throw some extra MMPs on research for strategic bombers for the USA. It is definitely worth the investment but I refuse to do it. If by 1943 going single chit strategic bombers are probably level 3 which still do ample bombing damage and is so much more realistic and doesnt create an imbalance. Let me play you as Allies and i will double chit the strat bombers and see how you then think it is a good option.