Can I starve the enemy units out

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Kaaven
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Can I starve the enemy units out

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A beginners question:
Can I starve the enemy out by cutting the road connection between their last city and their units?

Specifically, if they manage to break-through in their turn and I regain control of the road in my turn, do they resupply? Is cutting the road even a viable strategy?

Cause i got myself in a bad situation, where I mostly beat a Militarist Major, but they managed to get way ahead of me in therms of weapons (gauss vs carbine) and have bazillions of infantry while I barely have enough recruits for replacements. So my plan is to starve the bastards out, by cutting their capitol line of supply. Not sure if the AI plays one the same rules tho.
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RE: Can I starve the enemy units out

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Depends on the Faction:

Minor without city: Nope
Minor with City: Not as long as they can draw a path to the city. They do not need logistics assets or road connections and always produce enough, regardless of buildings.
Mayor: Aside from some free Logistics Capacity and Range on every city, they follow the same rules.
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I guessed so. And they are a Major. But do them gaining the road and me retaking it in the same turn allows them to resupply? Cause I am not sure when exactly does re-supply happen.

Also, is there a way to tell if they are starving already or not? Cause no matter how many units I have nearby, I cannot see the supply portion of their units description. And if not, now long does it take for them to start loosing actual troops?

And bonus question: do AI use ammo the same as us? Can I fight them dry of ammo?

Thanks for all the help!
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ORIGINAL: Kaaven

I guessed so. And they are a Major. But do them gaining the road and me retaking it in the same turn allows them to resupply? Cause I am not sure when exactly does re-supply happen.

Also, is there a way to tell if they are starving already or not? Cause no matter how many units I have nearby, I cannot see the supply portion of their units description. And if not, now long does it take for them to start loosing actual troops?

And bonus question: do AI use ammo the same as us? Can I fight them dry of ammo?

Thanks for all the help!
The generation of logistics points and hte SHQ doing it's logistics passes happens at the start of your turn.

Seeing stuff like enemy supply levels might require ~400 Recon. Infantry only gives 1 Recon per unit of 100. So even a full Tier 1 OHQ formation (5500 man) would only get you like 55 Recon. You need Motorcycles, Buggies and Light tanks for relevant amounts of recon.

Do not wait for dead soldiers. A drop in readiness is entirely sufficient to deter attacks or make them easily defeated when attacked.
For example, Radiation only starts killing people if it is 400 over the Units RAD limit. But that far above the limit, it cuts Readiness and Morale to 60% Maximum.
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Thanks for the answer. My plan was to wait them out, cause they do have me a good 5 to 1, if not more, on manpower already deployed. But am working to cause more casualties now. Will take time tho :D

Still, does anyone knows how the ammo works for AI, if at all?
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ORIGINAL: Kaaven

Thanks for the answer. My plan was to wait them out, cause they do have me a good 5 to 1, if not more, on manpower already deployed. But am working to cause more casualties now. Will take time tho :D

Still, does anyone knows how the ammo works for AI, if at all?
Pretty sure the AI has to build and deliver Ammo like you. But it might get some resources for free. But I could not definitively tell you.

Any way, only combat can use up ammo. Unlike Food and Fuel, there is no static per turn consumption.
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Does the AI get free metal and IP? I understand they get free roads (cause everytime i push them back on a mountain range, they get a free road across it next turn. No way they can afford that with only 1 lvl3 industry.

I also am destroying around 20-30 of their tanks every round, but they seem to producing more and more every freaking turn. Meanwhile i can't keep up replacing the 5 tanks or so i lose every turn, and according to the spy reports, i have way more metal and IP production.
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RE: Can I starve the enemy units out

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I have had some success against minor an major regimes by cutting off their supplies. I have never waited long enough to see if the manpower dwindled.
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