ICM way to weak

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WayneBGood
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In several PBEM games I've played after the last patch it seems to me that ICM has gotten to be ineffective. Before this patch I had a couple of stacks of T80s when it was hit by ICM. It literally wiped about about 20 T80s and demoralized the rest of the units. Now when it's been used in a current game by my opponent, it rarely kills anything including dismounted infantry and they go about their assigned tasks without any disruption. Regular artillery in my game seems a lot more effective in destroying armored vehicles and dismounted infantry, being far more effective than ICMs.
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I don't think we have touched that code recently. If you see more cases in the future, try to grab a save game and I can take a look at it. If something has changed, we can look to fix it for Southern Storm.
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Keep an eye on your firing batterys' Readiness. Low Readiness gives you less BDA.
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I have the same experience. Few months ago I came back to RS after about two years break. I don't know how many patches were introduced in the meantime, but what I noticed was, that the ICM ammunition was much less effective against armour ( less than the standard ammo ). Other thing I noticed, was that the NATO AD is now much more effective ( a welcomed change ).
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Why not do a test first? Here is one

I have some trouble to upload zip file onto the forum. Attached is a save file. After download, change the .gif into .sav

This is a classic email game. I took control both side. password is "fcrs" . Soviets moved two T80B1 companies into Nato's field of view
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They are in hex with 20% cover. both at screen status. readniess around 58%-60%. You can just hit "start". Two off map British M109 will fire soon.


one with Netralizing fire , another one with ICM. Then you can tell if ICM is ineffective or not.

Feel free to change some of the setting and run the test several times


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@KungPao Hey, could you put the .sav file in a zip and upload that? When I try to get the .sav renamed as a .gif, the browser is trying to display it and I don't get a save option.
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Also, what version are you guys running? I ran a couple of quick tests (1 fire mision per target) using 2.0.14. M109 vs T72B companies, in 20% cover and Hold. Default Readiness, etc.

US 8 tube firing unit: 7 ICM vs 1 HE
Brit 4 tube firing unit: 3 ICM vs 1 HE
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Hi Jeff
Sorry it doesn't work, for some reason Matrix game forums doesn't recognize the location of my zip file. I can send it to you email.

anyway, my test got similar result compare to yours. This is "Tutorial Scenario". Neutralizing fire from British 155mm usually will not cause any causualty. ICM will damage/destroy 3-4 tanks.


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