Red Phoenix

wqc12345 · Post by **wqc12345** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:21 pm

Anyone read this from Larry Bond? it's quite good.. enjoying the audio book now. I was thinking this would be a wonderful source for Command scenarios...

mikmykWS · Post by **mikmykWS** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:40 pm

Yeah great book and he and Chris Carlson wrote a follow on recently which was pretty good as well. Check it out, buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1519635389/re ... XCWT17ETN1

Thanks!

Mike

wqc12345 · Post by **wqc12345** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:44 pm

awesome!! just got it.. thanks Mike!

hellfish6 · Post by **hellfish6** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:59 pm

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Yeah great book and he and Chris Carlson wrote a follow on recently which was pretty good as well. Check it out, buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1519635389/re ... XCWT17ETN1

Thanks!

Mike

Hm... I'm tempted, but Bond has become very Clancy-esque since he stopped writing about wars (Red Phoenix, and my favorite, Vortex) and started writing about American Warrior Gods (i.e. action-movie-superhero protagonists) and the conflicts that let them be who they were designed to be.

Is this a protagonist-driven book, or more like his old stuff with episodic characters who are, um, human?

thewood1 · Post by **thewood1** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:15 pm

I thought this was a good follow-up to the first one.

mikmykWS · Post by **mikmykWS** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:32 pm

ORIGINAL: hellfish6

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Yeah great book and he and Chris Carlson wrote a follow on recently which was pretty good as well. Check it out, buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1519635389/re ... XCWT17ETN1

Thanks!

Mike

Hm... I'm tempted, but Bond has become very Clancy-esque since he stopped writing about wars (Red Phoenix, and my favorite, Vortex) and started writing about American Warrior Gods (i.e. action-movie-superhero protagonists) and the conflicts that let them be who they were designed to be.

Is this a protagonist-driven book, or more like his old stuff with episodic characters who are, um, human?

My sense is this one is better. I agree that the genre is pretty shallow these days but by the same token nobody is publishing many military thrillers anymore beyond Clancy's licensing etc.I'd be interested to know if sales and interest are really this dismal.

Mike

springtime · Post by **springtime** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:17 pm

I tried a while back to make the chapter dire straits into a single battle

BrianinMinnie · Post by **BrianinMinnie** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:21 pm

I also liked the Dale Brown Dreamland\megafortress Books, but after a while (the first 8 or so) they became more farfetched then even I could handle...

DWReese · Post by **DWReese** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:06 pm

IIRC, Cauldron was also excellent. It was more battle-war related, as opposed to the protagonist-driven books that you are talking about. It was also interesting to setup and replay a battle based on what was written in the book. Vortex was great, but I have always thought that Cauldron was a little better.

Doug

cf_dallas · Post by **cf_dallas** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:27 pm

Vortex was South Africa, Cauldron was Europe, right? Both were good, but Vortex was a lot more plausible.

cf_dallas · Post by **cf_dallas** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:27 pm

Vortex was South Africa, Cauldron was Europe, right? Both were good, but Vortex was a lot more plausible.

DWReese · Post by **DWReese** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:42 pm

Yes to both locations.

There was a huge battle in Cauldron that I really enjoyed. In fact, I'm going to have to go and find that book right now. I'd like to read that part again.

Doug

butch4343 · Post by **butch4343** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:09 am

Am surprised no one has mentioned Arc Light, now theres a book that turned a genre on its head!

Buckets of sunshine fly first then the conventional war follows!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arc-Light-Eric ... =arc+light

Some of those would make good scenarios. As would hacketts world war 3 books

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/045 ... UTF8&psc=1

and I reccently read sixth fleet a single USN CVBG meets 3 Soviet CVGs off South Africa,

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/055 ... UTF8&psc=1

And lastly theres warbirds , A Tac fighter wing vs Iran

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Warbirds-Richa ... s=warbirds

Butch

hellfish6 · Post by **hellfish6** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:05 pm

I loved Arc Light. Still read it every other year or so.

Airborne Rifles · Post by **Airborne Rifles** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:49 pm

ORIGINAL: hellfish6

I loved Arc Light. Still read it every other year or so.

Agreed, great read.

walsherik · Post by **walsherik** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:55 pm

Team Yankee or The world War 3 by Gen Sir J Hackett, classic 80's cold war

schweggy · Post by **schweggy** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:09 am

Team Yankee; I remember playing Steel Panthers: Modern Warfare (a IGYG, hex based game back in the late '80s) and there was a whole series of battles based on the book.

Good times...

mikmykWS · Post by **mikmykWS** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:46 pm

Bought Team Yankee and reread last summer. It still stands up!

Still play SPMBT regularly!

Mike

thewood1 · Post by **thewood1** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:17 pm

I built out a very rough Team Yankee scenario in Steel Beasts. I didn't have the patience or capability to make it a clean playable scenario, but was able to jump back and for from Soviet to US sides to make it fun. With 4.0 coming out, its very possible to do the full scenario.

DWReese · Post by **DWReese** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:48 pm

Kevin,

In your last message, you mentioned that "4.0 [is] coming out." What is 4.0?

Doug

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