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Anyone read this from Larry Bond? it's quite good.. enjoying the audio book now. I was thinking this would be a wonderful source for Command scenarios...
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Yeah great book and he and Chris Carlson wrote a follow on recently which was pretty good as well. Check it out, buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1519635389/re ... XCWT17ETN1

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awesome!! just got it.. thanks Mike!
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ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Yeah great book and he and Chris Carlson wrote a follow on recently which was pretty good as well. Check it out, buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1519635389/re ... XCWT17ETN1

Thanks!

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Hm... I'm tempted, but Bond has become very Clancy-esque since he stopped writing about wars (Red Phoenix, and my favorite, Vortex) and started writing about American Warrior Gods (i.e. action-movie-superhero protagonists) and the conflicts that let them be who they were designed to be.

Is this a protagonist-driven book, or more like his old stuff with episodic characters who are, um, human?
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I thought this was a good follow-up to the first one.
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ORIGINAL: hellfish6

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Yeah great book and he and Chris Carlson wrote a follow on recently which was pretty good as well. Check it out, buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1519635389/re ... XCWT17ETN1

Thanks!

Mike

Hm... I'm tempted, but Bond has become very Clancy-esque since he stopped writing about wars (Red Phoenix, and my favorite, Vortex) and started writing about American Warrior Gods (i.e. action-movie-superhero protagonists) and the conflicts that let them be who they were designed to be.

Is this a protagonist-driven book, or more like his old stuff with episodic characters who are, um, human?

My sense is this one is better. I agree that the genre is pretty shallow these days but by the same token nobody is publishing many military thrillers anymore beyond Clancy's licensing etc.I'd be interested to know if sales and interest are really this dismal.

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I tried a while back to make the chapter dire straits into a single battle
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I also liked the Dale Brown Dreamland\megafortress Books, but after a while (the first 8 or so) they became more farfetched then even I could handle...:-)
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IIRC, Cauldron was also excellent. It was more battle-war related, as opposed to the protagonist-driven books that you are talking about. It was also interesting to setup and replay a battle based on what was written in the book. Vortex was great, but I have always thought that Cauldron was a little better.

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Vortex was South Africa, Cauldron was Europe, right? Both were good, but Vortex was a lot more plausible.
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Vortex was South Africa, Cauldron was Europe, right? Both were good, but Vortex was a lot more plausible.
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Yes to both locations.

There was a huge battle in Cauldron that I really enjoyed. In fact, I'm going to have to go and find that book right now. I'd like to read that part again.

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Am surprised no one has mentioned Arc Light, now theres a book that turned a genre on its head!

Buckets of sunshine fly first then the conventional war follows!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arc-Light-Eric ... =arc+light

Some of those would make good scenarios. As would hacketts world war 3 books

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/045 ... UTF8&psc=1


and I reccently read sixth fleet a single USN CVBG meets 3 Soviet CVGs off South Africa,

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/055 ... UTF8&psc=1

And lastly theres warbirds , A Tac fighter wing vs Iran

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Warbirds-Richa ... s=warbirds

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I loved Arc Light. Still read it every other year or so.
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I loved Arc Light. Still read it every other year or so.

Agreed, great read.
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Team Yankee or The world War 3 by Gen Sir J Hackett, classic 80's cold war
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Team Yankee; I remember playing Steel Panthers: Modern Warfare (a IGYG, hex based game back in the late '80s) and there was a whole series of battles based on the book.

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Bought Team Yankee and reread last summer. It still stands up!

Still play SPMBT regularly!

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I built out a very rough Team Yankee scenario in Steel Beasts. I didn't have the patience or capability to make it a clean playable scenario, but was able to jump back and for from Soviet to US sides to make it fun. With 4.0 coming out, its very possible to do the full scenario.
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Kevin,

In your last message, you mentioned that "4.0 [is] coming out." What is 4.0?

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