Art Request - Late War US Cruisers

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Art Request - Late War US Cruisers

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Does anyone have artwork for:

Des Moines Class CA (sometimes called Salem Class)
Worchester Class CL
Projected CL-154 Class CLAA (with 5/54 guns)

The projected CL-154 class are pretty much what-if, as the class was disapproved as part of the general reduction in the 1945 program. But I've been reading Friedman's US Cruisers and stumbled on an interesting statement - that the Des Moines class were completed in 1948-49, two years late. Someone with a mod extending into 1946 and a good imagination could construe this to justify Des Moines class units in 1946. And, once the can 'o worms is open....
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Hey Don,

I have had these for a while. I can't take credit for em, and I don't even remember who posted these, but hope they help

Sorry i can't get the files to upload. will keep trying
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I think this is right . . .

Des Moines and worchester
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Thanks, but not sure those are correct. The Worchester looks like the icon for a small CLAA that was included in one of the "what if" mods. Des Moines is closer, but not quite right...

Des Moines, somewhat post war (with a helicopter!)

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Let's try that again...

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and a similar Worchester

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How about this?



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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.
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Looks good. Can you attach the bmps??
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Sure, but still need to do the transparent version. I know there's plenty room for improvement - it's basically just a playaround with the image you provided - but at the moment better than nothing.

Do you want a stern catapult as well? Or some other radar on the masts (not that really distinguishable at this scale anyway but still...)
"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.
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Here's a somewhat cleaner version of the above one (it's also no longer too low in the water) together with a transparent one.
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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.
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That's great, thanks. No worries on the stern catapults.

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Preliminary Design Springstyle for the CL-154 http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/imag ... 11-66c.htm
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Maybe also of interest are the 3 Juneau-Class CLAA's - redesigned Atlanta-Class CLAA's. The difference; a square bridge, and the main armament has the same layout as in the Worcester-Class, #1 and # 2 turret at deck level, and only #3 super-firing - same aft.

Three ships, Juneau II, Spokane, Fresno, commissioned February, may and November 46 respectively.
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- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.
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Thank You!
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One thing I'd look at for late war US ships that may not have commissioned until 46 or 47. Look at the time from launch to commssion vs sisterships that made the war. If the 46/47 ships are significantly longer, which most are it's not because the work took that longs it's because they wern't needed. example: CV-9 to 21 and and 36-38 took about 15 months to build and 4-5 from launch to commission. CV31-33 and 39, 40, 45, 47 all took 8 months or longer. The Oriskany was launched on 5 May 45 and wasn't commissioned until 1950 because we didn't need the ship anymore.

The carrier I think for sure should be in the game as a late war addition in the FDR. Commissioned a month after the Midway, she would have made it to Pacific for Coronet.
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