Did I blow it?

Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: The German-Soviet War 1941-1945 is a turn-based World War II strategy game stretching across the entire Eastern Front. Gamers can engage in an epic campaign, including division-sized battles with realistic and historical terrain, weather, orders of battle, logistics and combat results.

The critically and fan-acclaimed Eastern Front mega-game Gary Grigsby’s War in the East just got bigger and better with Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: Don to the Danube! This expansion to the award-winning War in the East comes with a wide array of later war scenarios ranging from short but intense 6 turn bouts like the Battle for Kharkov (1942) to immense 37-turn engagements taking place across multiple nations like Drama on the Danube (Summer 1944 – Spring 1945).

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But in reality in 41 i find it more that if a german player really wants something he's going to take it. And when i say really wants i mean he also commits the forces required to get the job done.

This is true, but it also shows one of the greatest aspects of this game, in that everything self-balances. The Axis can allocate the resources needed to get Leningrad, but those resources are not available to go for the Donbas cities and Rostov as well, and the population and resources here more than compensates for what may be lost in Leningrad.
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ORIGINAL: BigAnorak
But in reality in 41 i find it more that if a german player really wants something he's going to take it. And when i say really wants i mean he also commits the forces required to get the job done.

This is true, but it also shows one of the greatest aspects of this game, in that everything self-balances. The Axis can allocate the resources needed to get Leningrad, but those resources are not available to go for the Donbas cities and Rostov as well, and the population and resources here more than compensates for what may be lost in Leningrad.


I agree there if anyone ever gets the idea that i am unsatisfied with WITE it's quite the opposite. I find this game to be amazing. The balance aspects are very nice as well. Also for me it's going to be a bit harder now without leningrad and the damn finns are powerful but the finns manpower is not going to last forever. :)

Since my opponent took leningrad our line for winter was around kalinin north. Then about the dneper line. He had kharkov encircled come mud. But in the south he never took dnprevosk (sp) and i held him in the dnper line all the way down. So the crimea is safe with level 4 (almost 5) forts on every entry point. I have level 4 forts the first 3 hexes in. So that's going to be a hell of a slaughter house for germany. I've got a line of forts on the river west of rostov. I've got a few reserve u nits out by stalingrad building a line on the river there.

42 is going to be an interesting year.


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42 is going to be an interesting year.

That is a reasonable line in the South, but a strong thrust on Rostov in 1942 is going to undermine that, so I think the more you can push him away from Kharkov and Kalinin during the Winter, will determine just how "interesting" 1942 will be - sounds like a fun game.
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Man the first year is very emotional on both sides. For the soviets its when you're being steam rolled. For the germans it's watching your army evaporate before your eyes.

The first blizzard turn didn't really look all that bad until I opened up the TOE. I had all of my Tank divisions in cities and quite a few of my prime Infantry and Mech occupying Leningrad. I thought it would be fine. My units had been digging in for months. I had not attacked anyone since the snow started. I was well prepared, But I really wasn't. The Soviet player knocked me back every turn. My lines were too thin. The Blizzard was seriously harsh on my TOE.

I totally agree with you. A very emotional experience. A feeling of being helpless.
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ORIGINAL: BigAnorak
42 is going to be an interesting year.

That is a reasonable line in the South, but a strong thrust on Rostov in 1942 is going to undermine that, so I think the more you can push him away from Kharkov and Kalinin during the Winter, will determine just how "interesting" 1942 will be - sounds like a fun game.

Tonight will be t5 of blizzard blitz. I find it hard to make more then 1 or 2 hexes a turn because the bad morale of my units makes them refuse to go too deep into enemy zoc. I just recaptured kharkov (he gave it up without a fight so i wouldn't encircle him). My other biggest issue now is traffic jams. I have all these units bunched up so its hard to really get my heavy hitters to the front to fight. That and now more and more troops start or end their turn unready without combat. Guess winter takes it's toll on the russians as well to a lesser extent.

In the south i think i'm going good i have 2 cav corp their and i just broke the german main position. Now it's just a matter of routing those axis minors. I am hopeful of taking back to the kiev line as well. Though it's been a little TOO easy so i feel like a trap might be waiting. Let me take kiev area and then on the first snow turn have a few nice panzer armies come and make a kiev pocket version 2. :) So 2 turns before blizzard ends i think i might pull back and make a line.
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So 2 turns before blizzard ends i think i might pull back and make a line.

I think some preparation for the March snow Axis resurgence will be necessary. It really depends on his morale - If he feels really battered he may not try too hard to recover lost ground. As Axis I usually go as hard as I can for those 3 snow turns.
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ORIGINAL: BigAnorak
So 2 turns before blizzard ends i think i might pull back and make a line.

I think some preparation for the March snow Axis resurgence will be necessary. It really depends on his morale - If he feels really battered he may not try too hard to recover lost ground. As Axis I usually go as hard as I can for those 3 snow turns.

Yea that's what i'm thinking. He was telling me his panzers are living up the winter away in cities. Drinking wine and chasing women. So i'm sure on the first turna fter snow i'll see a giant pocket if i'm not careful. This is really not a popeye eating his spinach advance either. The further into winter we go the more and more attacks i really need to hit hard with to dislodge the germans. And my troops are losing at least 2-3 guys per one of his deaths.

But i can afford to bleed my guys more then he can.
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I was in about the same position you are in at the end of the winter (against AI). During the winter I had been pushed back 5 to 10 hexes on the entire front. Contrary to most here I think you should play on through '42. I did and am having a great game. At the moment I am in turn 72 (late october '42) and dealt the Soviets some serious damage even though I have not taken any of the major objectives. Think it will end up in a draw if my summer '43 offensive (everything at Moscow) fails. At least I destroyed some 350 Soviets units during '42, as much as I destroyed in '41. Losses are now at 2,4m against 7m (the winter of '41 really hurts).

Whatever you choose to do, enjoy!
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