Early Jap Subs

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Early Jap Subs

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Hello,

Looking for Range in Nautical Miles for these subs.

Holland Class
No.1 - No.5
8kts (Surfaced)/7kts (Submerged)

Kaigun-Holland Class
No.6 - No.7
8.5kts/4kts

C1 Vickers Class
No.8-No.9
12kts/8.5kts

C2 Vickers Class
No.10-No.12
12kts/8.5kts

VK Class
No.13
10.8kts/8kts

S1 Class
No.14-No.15
17kts/10kts 2050nm/60nm at 10 kts/4kts

Thx!

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Hello,

Looking for Range in Nautical Miles for these subs.

Holland Class
No.1 - No.5
8kts (Surfaced)/7kts (Submerged) - 184nm

Kaigun-Holland Class
No.6 - No.7
8.5kts/4kts - 184nm

C1 Vickers Class
No.8-No.9
12kts/8.5kts - 660nm

C2 Vickers Class
No.10-No.12
12kts/8.5kts - 660nm

VK Class
No.13
10.8kts/8kts - 660nm

S1 Class
No.14-No.15
17kts/10kts 2050nm/60nm at 10 kts/4kts

Thx!

PAW
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RE: Early Jap Subs

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Terminus,

We must have the same book. I am not convinced, as those ranges are at max speed according to my book.

Upon further reading C1, C2 & C3 classes were all from the British 'C' Class.

Under that I find Range 1000 nm at 8.75 kts surfaced. Which makes sense.
12kts max for 660nm, And then 1000nm for 8.75kts.

Holland, Kaigun-Holland are listing those ranges at max speed.
For most ships a reduced speed gives them their range.

Does that make sense?

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Terminus,

We must have the same book. I am not convinced, as those ranges are at max speed according to my book.

Upon further reading C1, C2 & C3 classes were all from the British 'C' Class.

Under that I find Range 1000 nm at 8.75 kts surfaced. Which makes sense.
12kts max for 660nm, And then 1000nm for 8.75kts.

Holland, Kaigun-Holland are listing those ranges at max speed.
For most ships a reduced speed gives them their range.

Does that make sense?

PAW
PAWMATRIX -

Am always expanding my reading list, would you please tell me the name and author of the book in question?

Thank You Sir!

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Conway's All the Worlds Fighting Ships 1906-1921

There is also a 1922-1946 and a 1860-1905.

Own all three.

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There's FOUR volumes of Conway's.

Anyway, if those ranges don't work for you, you have two options:

- Make the boat's speed rating conform to the range figures you have, or

- Adjust the range rating to suit the speed figures.

Since it's a relatively safe bet that the two are linearly linked, a simple percentage calculation should be enough.
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ORIGINAL: PAWMatrix

Conway's All the Worlds Fighting Ships 1906-1921

There is also a 1922-1946 and a 1860-1905.

Own all three.

PAW

PAWMatrix and Terminus -

Thank You! Good Stuff - I will add it to my :buy" list.

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It's probably out of print, but can be found in pre-used form. That's how I got all of mine.
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Terminus,

I agree. Thanks, calculating it seems best.

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The 1922-1946 is available from Naval Institute Press (Naval Institute) and also Amazon. These are new copies. The others are used. My favorite site for used books is Abebooks.com, but Amazon also has a used book search feature.
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