You have to download the same titled folder as well. Both the .cgn and the folder have to be put in the My Games --> Campaign folder for Pacific.
It sounds as though you may have double clicked on the cgn file?
So glad to hear! Mind telling me whom you are playing and version 1.0 or 1.5?
The Diplomacy chart in the editor is a little cumbersome, each major and minor relationship has to be done individually. Red an Black are countries created by the Devs to have work arounds for the Doolittle Raid and other stuff, and I missed disabling that diplomacy. I created Railroads and Stilwell because my original idea was to use diplomacy as "construction" for the railroad hexes; but it proved to be too unpredictable. So I thought of the idea of engineers next to the hex to "build" it. I apparently also missed disabling those! Good catch!
While researching this mod, I noticed one gripe of the American commanders was Kai-shek's refusal to use his best trained and equipped troops against the Japanese. He kept them near Communist China for most of the war because he was worried about CC seizing more territory. I decided to replicate this with my amateur script writing skills with those three towns west of CCP. The idea being that if you remove the KMT units, then China's NM will fall -25 points, per town, per turn. However, I also wanted to limit this to only if Xi'an was in Chinese hands (the idea being that if Xi'an falls, then Kai-shek would have pulled the units to protect Lanzhou or Chongqing). Occupying/not occupying the towns does not affect CC.DaDude wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:08 pm More importantly, China. I played a fairly classic Chinese defence and kept Japanese advances down to a minimum, although they did advance on all fronts. But China's morale just kept crashing until zero in late August 1942. Almost a straight line to zero. The only signals I got were that I was not always keeping enough units on hexes marked as influencing Communist China - but I assumed that would affect Communist China's relations not overall morale. So the question - why does China's morale go down to consistently and steeply? Is there some multiplier in the mod or did China really do something very wrong wrong or is this just inevitable?
Great feedback! Exactly the kind of stuff I need to find out. These would be easy fixes, so I might push out an update sooner than later. Currently I'm working on my holy grail - trying to get engineers to build disputed resources. But that's going to take a lot more trial and error. So many unwritten rules on scripts
Well good news. I figured out why this was happening...it wasn't so much the scripts. I finally remembered I had bumped up the values of NM for resources (towns and mines changed to 100 instead of 10 or whatever). I thought this was a one time capture bonus, but nope. It happens every turn for the major losing the resource and the major occupying the resource. Since Japan occupies NE China and Manchuria, China is losing a lot and Japan is gaining, even when nothing is happening.
So some more feedback. Since you appreciate it.Nginear wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 7:08 pmSo glad to hear! Mind telling me whom you are playing and version 1.0 or 1.5?
The Diplomacy chart in the editor is a little cumbersome, each major and minor relationship has to be done individually. Red an Black are countries created by the Devs to have work arounds for the Doolittle Raid and other stuff, and I missed disabling that diplomacy. I created Railroads and Stilwell because my original idea was to use diplomacy as "construction" for the railroad hexes; but it proved to be too unpredictable. So I thought of the idea of engineers next to the hex to "build" it. I apparently also missed disabling those! Good catch!
While researching this mod, I noticed one gripe of the American commanders was Kai-shek's refusal to use his best trained and equipped troops against the Japanese. He kept them near Communist China for most of the war because he was worried about CC seizing more territory. I decided to replicate this with my amateur script writing skills with those three towns west of CCP. The idea being that if you remove the KMT units, then China's NM will fall -25 points, per town, per turn. However, I also wanted to limit this to only if Xi'an was in Chinese hands (the idea being that if Xi'an falls, then Kai-shek would have pulled the units to protect Lanzhou or Chongqing). Occupying/not occupying the towns does not affect CC.DaDude wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:08 pm More importantly, China. I played a fairly classic Chinese defence and kept Japanese advances down to a minimum, although they did advance on all fronts. But China's morale just kept crashing until zero in late August 1942. Almost a straight line to zero. The only signals I got were that I was not always keeping enough units on hexes marked as influencing Communist China - but I assumed that would affect Communist China's relations not overall morale. So the question - why does China's morale go down to consistently and steeply? Is there some multiplier in the mod or did China really do something very wrong wrong or is this just inevitable?
BUT remember how I said amateur? Well... it looks like I put the Xi'an part for the popup icons, but forgot to put it in the NM scripts. So you would have kept losing NM even after Xi'an fell, or any time there was no Division/Corp/Armor unit at that location.
Without knowing more about your larger strategic situation in China, if you did not cover those three cities (-25 each) or Ürümqi (-100), then you would have been looking at -175 points every turn while doing nothing. I think that's also why the Devs increased Chinese NM in the patch (I reflected this in v1.5).
Great feedback! Exactly the kind of stuff I need to find out. These would be easy fixes, so I might push out an update sooner than later. Currently I'm working on my holy grail - trying to get engineers to build disputed resources. But that's going to take a lot more trial and error. So many unwritten rules on scripts
That must be interesting playing the AI. I did not update any of those scripts as they are rather lengthy and a whole new set of rules. I'm really not even sure what rules they are following, since the AI folders in the mod are empty. I'm not sure if there is permanently written code from the devs? I'm just talking out loud here. I mean that's great if it is giving you even a shallow game.DaDude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 3:49 pm I am now in Sept 1944 against the AI, v 1.5. Several remarks. First of all, as allies I have Bangkok, Saigon, Hanoi, Singapore, Truk, Tarawa, Rangoon, Kuala Lumpur and all of PHIL and INDO, and I have taken coastal China (with allied troops) and Manchuria (from Russia). But Japanese morale is still at 340.
I think this is from the previous discussed NM boost, just going up for Japan and down for China. Although I am puzzled too. The max NM limit was the same as Pacific, so it should have capped it at 110%. I have noticed sometimes when you push the engine to do "things it wasn't thought of to do" it can get buggy. Regardless, this should work better in v2.1DaDude wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 3:49 pm It has been going up steadily all the time. Another glitch of some sort I am sure. Some other quirks: even though allies held a swath of coastal China I could not land aircraft there, or upgrade ports in China until I took Shanghai (maybe this is linked to Shanghai being an Industrial Centre).
I think I found the problem.
Can you play the AI? Technically yes, BUT it's like playing an 8 year old who just clicks around. It will attack and do stuff, but without any larger strategy in mind. I have not converted the AI scripts; that is a very long term goal.
