Showcase: Queen Elizabeth First impressions

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HalfLifeExpert
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Showcase: Queen Elizabeth First impressions

Post by HalfLifeExpert »

Overall this looks like a fun and challenging scenario, but I wanted to mention a couple things:

1) Among the 4x B-52s present at Anderson AFB, one is armed with the experimental HWAC Hypersonic Missile. This is great, however I was looking at the DB entry for this weapon, and it states that it only has a 50kt Nuclear Warhead.

If this is correct, then wouldn't this weapon be unusable in this scenario given that, naturally, you are not granted nuclear release? (and there's no other Nuclear weapons available)

2) Others have mentioned this in other threads, but I wanted to share my thoughts here:

While this scenario does look good, it really does not match the marketing of this scenario/series. The language of the product description implies that each scenario will have the player concentrate on commanding the highlighted asset(s).

While the QE is central to the setup of this scenario plot-wise, it's really only a fraction of the forces the player must command. In addition to the QE group, the player has command of 2x US Supercarrier Battle Groups along with considerable land based assets.

While this is all fine in of itself, one cannot really fully concentrate of "Showcasing" the QE and her aircraft in this larger battlespace.

Really, there's a scenario in the CSP that more accurately fits the conceptual description of Command: Showcase with regard to the Queen Elizabeth:

CSG-21 In the Eastern Mediterranean, 2021 by Fido81


So again, I'm not making any complaints about the quality of the scenario, it's just not what the product description led us to believe it would be like.

I'm sure it will be very fun anyway, but I feel this is important feedback going forward.
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Re: Showcase: Queen Elizabeth First impressions

Post by mikerohan »

HalfLifeExpert wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:42 am
So again, I'm not making any complaints about the quality of the scenario, it's just not what the product description led us to believe it would be like.

I'm sure it will be very fun anyway, but I feel this is important feedback going forward.
This!
Really, I'm OK with the size, the setting, the plot ant the prize of the scenario.
But this is not "Manage and master a single unit, sensor or weapon at a time" even if "single unit" means a Task Force centered on the QE.
BDukes
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Re: Showcase: Queen Elizabeth First impressions

Post by BDukes »

Hi All

Finished last night. It is big, very fun, and I definitely worth $3. I would suggest using the Quick Jump feature linked to your high-value groups to jump around quickly. It made managing a lot of stuff easy as you're not panning and zooming around as much. I would also suggest holding fire until your fire until fired on per orders. This will test your discipline, but the show is worth the wait.

Nitpicks:
China is missing Spratly Island Facilities.
Nuclear HAWK loadout on B-52 is unusable in the scenario. Don't think it goes nuclear.
Needed more tankers, but I always complain about that.
SIDE: UK & Coalition Forces
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LOSSES:
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1x B-52H Stratofortress
1x DDG 173 Kongo
1x E-2D Advanced Hawkeye
1x MH-60S Knighthawk
5x SH-60K Seahawk
1x UH-60J Blackhawk


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
125x 114mm/55 Mk8 HE(MP)ER HE
14x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HECVT
200x 127mm/62 Mk187 HE-MFF [Mk64 HiCap Body, Mk419 Fuse]
5x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 1 Burst [300 rnds]
4x AGM-158C LRASM
4x AGM-179 JAGM
6x AGM-88E AARGM
1x AIM-120D AMRAAM P3I.4
4x ASM HAWC
8x ASM-1C [Type 91]
1x Aster 15 PAAMS [GWS.45 Sea Viper]
5x Aster 30 PAAMS [GWS.45 Sea Viper]
3x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
1x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Dual Spectral]
12x J/HQS-12 DIFAR
12x J/HQS-33B DICASS [AN/SSQ-62B]
10x ODIN Laser Dazzler
6x Paveway IV [Mk82]
8x RGM-84D Harpoon IC
38x RIM-162A ESSM
16x RIM-162B ESSM
6x RIM-162C ESSM
54x RIM-66M-1 SM-2MR Blk III
8x RIM-7M Sea Sparrow
1x RUM-139C VLA [Mk54]
1x SSQ-926 ALFEA
9x UGM-109E Tomahawk Blk IV TACTOM

WEAPONS/STORES LOST:
-----------------------------
7x 120 USG Drop Tank
302x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HECVT
250x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HiCap
38x 20mm M197 Burst [20 rnds]
47x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 1 Burst [300 rnds]
40x 7.62mm M60D Burst [20 rnds]
1600x 7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds]
22x AGM-114M Hellfire II
4x AGM-179 JAGM
6x AGM-183A ARRW [Penetrator]
2x AN/SLQ-25 Nixie
69x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
144x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
71x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Dual Spectral]
48x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
38x J/HQS-33B DICASS [AN/SSQ-62B]
144x Mk182 SRBOC Chaff [Seduction]
40x Mk186 TORCH Flare [Seduction]
32x Mk46 NEARTIP Mod 5
8x RGM-84D Harpoon IC
20x RIM-161E SM-3 NTW Blk IIA
16x RUM-139A VLA [Mk46 Mod 5]
12x Type 97



SIDE: China
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LOSSES:
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1x 16 Liaoning [Type 001, Kuznetsov]
1x 17 Shandong [Type 002, Kuznetsov Mod.]
3x J-10B Firebird
7x J-10C Firebird
1x J-11BSH Flanker C [Su-27UBK Copy]
20x J-15 Flying Shark [Su-33 Copy]
32x J-15S Flying Shark
2x J-16 Flying Shark [Su-30MKK Copy]
2x J-7E Fishbed [MiG-21 Copy]
3x Ka-28 Helix A
1x KJ-500 Cub [GX9]
2x Type 037-IG Houxin
1x Type 037-II Houjian [770 Yangjiang]
1x Type 039C Yuan
1x Type 039G1 Song
4x Type 052D Luyang III [173 Changsha]
1x Type 053H1G Jianghu V [558 Zigong]
1x Type 054 Jiangkai I [525 Manshan]
2x Type 054A Jiangkai II [530 Xuzhou]
3x Type 054A++ Jiangkai II [576 Daqing]
1x Type 056A Jiangdao [593 Sanmenxia]
1x Type 093B Shang
1x Type 901 Hulunhu [965]
1x Type 905 Taiking [881 Hongzehu, Fuqing Class]
5x Y-8Q Cub [GX6]
2x Y-8W Balance Beam [KJ-200 Cub]
1x Y-9JB Cub [GX8]
14x Z-18FQ Super Frelon
6x Z-18YJ Super Frelon [Black Bat]
15x Z-9C Haitun
2x Z-9C Haitun


EXPENDITURES:
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2x 100mm/55 H/PJ-87 HECVT
3x 130mm China H/PJ-38 HE
7x 14.5mm MG Burst [20 rnds]
2x 23mm Type 23-3 Burst [40 rnds]
9x 30mm China H/PJ-12 [Type 730, 240 rnds]
4x 30mm China H/PJ-14 [Type 1130, 500 rnds]
89x 30mm Type 30-1 x 2 Burst [30 rnds]
2x 30mm/65 China Type 65 Twin Burst [AK-230 Copy, 50 rnds]]
2x 30mm/65 H/PJ-13 Burst [400 rnds]
35x 37mm/63 Twin Burst [20 rnds]
16x 500kg GPB
8x AS-17 Krypton C [Kh-31P, ARM]
4x Generic Acoustic Decoy
235x Generic Active Directional Sonobuoy
73x Generic Chaff Rocket
48x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
24x Generic Flare Rocket [Single Spectral]
10x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
120x Generic Passive Directional Sonobuoy
246x HHQ-9
57x HQ-10 [FL-3000N]
95x HQ-16A [SA-17 Semi-Copy]
18x HQ-7 Crotale [FM-80, CSA-4]
7x HQ-9A
11x PL-10
67x PL-12
24x PL-15
13x PL-8A [Python 3]
3x PL-8C [Python 3]
29x RGB-NM-1 [Passive Omni]
40x SA-20b Gargoyle [48N6E2]
12x SA-21a Growler [48N6DM]
22x YJ-18 [3M54E Klub Copy, Rocket Boosted Penetrator]
28x YJ-18 [3M54E Klub Copy]
12x YJ-82 [YJ-802Q]
12x YJ-83 [C-802A, CSS-N-8 Saccade]
7x YJ-8A [C-801]
6x Yu-10 [ADCAP MOD Copy]
3x Yu-7

WEAPONS/STORES LOST:
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200x 100mm/55 H/PJ-87 HE
209x 100mm/55 H/PJ-87 HECVT
620x 100mm/56 Twin PJ33A Frag Burst [2 rnds]
500x 100mm/56 Twin PJ33A HE [2 rnds]
110x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [20 rnds]
1757x 130mm China H/PJ-38 HE
853x 14.5mm MG Burst [20 rnds]
20x 1700 liter Drop Tank
48x 23mm Type 23-3 Burst [40 rnds]
1600x 250kg GPB
296x 30mm China H/PJ-12 [Type 730, 240 rnds]
343x 30mm China H/PJ-14 [Type 1130, 500 rnds]
140x 30mm China H/PJ-17 [20 rnds]
275x 30mm Gsh-30-1 Burst [30 rnds]
438x 30mm/65 China Type 65 Twin Burst [AK-230 Copy, 50 rnds]]
98x 30mm/65 H/PJ-13 Burst [400 rnds]
3446x 37mm/63 Twin Burst [20 rnds]
4x 480 liter Drop Tank
800x 500kg GPB
2182x 57mm Rocket
2x 720 liter Drop Tank
600x 76mm/60 China H/PJ-26 Frag Burst [2 rnds]
1650x 76mm/60 China H/PJ-26 HE Burst [2 rnds]
10x 800 liter Drop Tank
8x A.244
80x APR-3
6x APR-3M
104x AS-17 Krypton C [Kh-31P, ARM]
12x China kg-600 DECM Pod
12x China Towed Acoustic Decoy
18x China Type 81 ASW Rocket Salvo [5 rnds]
552x China Type 87 ASW Rocket Salvo [6 rnds]
12x FQF-6000 Anti-Torpedo Depth Charge Salvo [10 rnds]
68x Generic Acoustic Decoy
268x Generic Active Directional Sonobuoy
10x Generic Buddy Store
2381x Generic Chaff Rocket
840x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
1000x Generic Flare Rocket [Single Spectral]
850x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
280x Generic Passive Directional Sonobuoy
29x HHQ-9
208x HQ-10 [FL-3000N]
65x HQ-16A [SA-17 Semi-Copy]
24x HQ-7 Crotale [FM-80] Naval
80x J-15D Wingtip Jammer Pod
19x PL-10
665x PL-12
4x PL-15
3x PL-8A [Python 3]
242x PL-8B [Python 3]
601x PL-8C [Python 3]
8x PLAB-250 Depth Charge
36x RGB-NM-1 [Passive Omni]
1280x S-8KO 80mm Rocket [HEAT]
60x YJ-18 [3M54E Klub Copy]
6x YJ-82 [YJ-802Q]
48x YJ-83 [C-802A, CSS-N-8 Saccade]
212x YJ-83K [C-802AK]
7x YJ-8A [C-801]
32x Yu-10 [ADCAP MOD Copy]
16x Yu-11
18x Yu-6
486x Yu-7



SIDE: Oil Platforms
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LOSSES:
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1x Platform [Class B, 70000t]
1x Platform [Class C, 50000t]


EXPENDITURES:
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WEAPONS/STORES LOST:
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SIDE: Taiwan
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LOSSES:
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1x 1101 Cheng Kung [Perry, Kuang Hua I]
1x 1801 Keelung [Kidd]
1x 605 Dang Chiang [Kuang Hua III, Hsiung Feng III Mod]
16x F-16A Blk 20 Falcon [F-16V]
4x F-16B Blk 20 Falcon
7x F-CK-1C Hsiung Ying [Ching Kuo MLU]
1x MD-500M/ASW Defender
24x Mirage 2000-5EI
1x PFG 1202 Kang Ding [La Fayette, Kuang Hua II]
2x S-70C(M)-2 Thunderhawk


EXPENDITURES:
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2x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
4x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 1 Burst [300 rnds]
14x 40mm/70 Single Bofors Burst [4 rnds]
5x 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds]
5x 76mm/62 Compact HE Burst [4 rnds]
82x AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM P3I.3
10x AIM-9M Sidewinder
45x AN/SSQ-53D DIFAR
62x AN/SSQ-53F DIFAR
30x AN/SSQ-62B DICASS
67x AN/SSQ-62E DICASS
66x AN/SSQ-77B VLAD
4x DAGAIE Mk2 LEM Chaff
37x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
13x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
8x Generic Flare Salvo [2x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
27x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
12x Hsiung Feng II
4x Hsiung Feng III
304x HYDRA 70mm Rocket
65x MICA EM
15x MIM-104C Patriot PAC-2
10x Mk182 SRBOC Chaff [Seduction]
4x Mk214 Sea Gnat Chaff [Seduction]
6x Mk245 GIANT Flare
20x Mk82 500lb LDGP
4x R.550 Magic 2 Mk2
6x RIM-66E6 SM-1MR Blk VIB
4x TC-1 [Tien Chien I]

WEAPONS/STORES LOST:
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2x 120 USG Drop Tank
560x 127mm/54 HE-CVT [HiFrag]
520x 127mm/54 HE-PD [HiCap]
160x 127mm/54 WP
24x 1300 liter Drop Tank
48x 1700 liter Drop Tank
430x 20mm Type 75 Burst [20 rnds]
134x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
45x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 0 Burst [200 rnds]
90x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 1 Burst [300 rnds]
21x 275 USG Drop Tank
120x 30mm DEFA 554 x 2 Burst [50 rnds]
40x 370 USG Drop Tank
580x 40mm/70 Single Bofors Burst [4 rnds]
589x 40mm/70 Single Breda Burst [4 rnds]
880x 7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds]
385x 76mm/62 Compact HE Burst [4 rnds]
8x AGM-65G Maverick IR
18x AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM P3I.3
36x AIM-9M Sidewinder
12x AN/AAQ-33 Sniper XR Pod [FLIR + LRMTS, 40k ft]
20x AN/ALQ-184(V) DECM Pod
2x AN/SLQ-25 Nixie
2x AN/SLQ-25A Nixie
48x AN/SSQ-53D DIFAR
24x AN/SSQ-62B DICASS
76x DAGAIE Mk2 LEM Chaff
20x DAGAIE Mk2 LIR Flare
8x Depth Charge [Generic]
8x GBU-10E/B Paveway II LGB [Mk84]
8x GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]
640x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
151x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
184x Generic Flare Salvo [2x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
109x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
5x Generic GMTR [Guided Missile Training Round]
8x Hsiung Feng II
12x Hsiung Feng III
224x Kung Fen Chaff
65x MICA EM
134x Mk182 SRBOC Chaff [Seduction]
40x Mk186 TORCH Flare [Seduction]
64x Mk214 Sea Gnat Chaff [Seduction]
16x Mk245 GIANT Flare
108x Mk46 NEARTIP Mod 5
45x R.550 Magic 2 Mk2
37x RIM-66E6 SM-1MR Blk VIB
64x RIM-66K-2 SM-2MR Blk IIIA
36x RIM-72H Sea Chaparral
25x TC-1 [Tien Chien I]



SIDE: Chinese Coast Guard
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LOSSES:
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1x 7m RHIB


EXPENDITURES:
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WEAPONS/STORES LOST:
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120x 7.62mm MG Burst [20 rnds]



SIDE: Malaysian & Singapore Forces
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LOSSES:
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EXPENDITURES:
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16x AN/SSQ-53D DIFAR
8x AN/SSQ-62B DICASS
15x SSQ-963D CAMBS VI

WEAPONS/STORES LOST:
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