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Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:11 pm
by suprass81
Hi. During we wait for official patch we decided with operating to test beta version. I want to make an AAR and I hope you will have some fun reading it... So let us get started.
Sorry for my bad English.
Turn 1
23 JUL 1914
CP (Operating) launch first attack on serbian's possitions. My garisson survived and it was move back to repair. Also I had to disband my arty to start quick production of infantry corps.
For now I don't have a plan- I will react to what operating will do.
Sorry for my bad English.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:56 pm
by Hellfirejet
I will watch this ones progress with interest,I do hope you all like,most of the changes in game.[;)]
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:34 pm
by suprass81
For now it's far mor better than last patch. I saw only coupleof changes but I like more different ships and changes in air war (which looks very good at last for the first sight). I will post my oppinion during this AAR.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:14 pm
by Hellfirejet
ORIGINAL: suprass81
For now it's far mor better than last patch. I saw only coupleof changes but I like more different ships and changes in air war (which looks very good at last for the first sight). I will post my oppinion during this AAR.
Thank you!
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:14 pm
by suprass81
Turn 2
30 JUL 1914
AH moves without a fight. I think Operating is takein good positions to strike Belgrade. We will see next turn. I'm trying to build line of defence.
Turn 3
6 AUG 1914
Thouse pictures talk all about what happened last enemy's turn.
In Serbia Belgrade holds at 1 step so I had to retreat this infantry corps. I've also decided to move back and leave Capital without any defenders. This possition is to dengerous and I don't have enough force to defend it. I'ts only a matter of 2 turns and it will be raized to ground so I don't want to wast my units to defend it.
In France and Belgium I can see some dificulties to stop Germans. I think next turn I will have to retreat and take defensive possitions in the front of Paris...
French Pre-Drednought destroyed at Med Sea- This is my Achilles heel (naval battle) so I have to be carefull.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:47 pm
by Hellfirejet
Hi Suprass81,
First strategic error you made was saving the Garrison unit that was attacked,It may sound heartless,but this unit is best sacrificed in order to buy you some time,because it will take the Austrian units another couple of attacks against this hapless Garrison unit in order to destroy it,also disbanding your Artillery at the start was a very big boo boo,your Strategy has to be first and foremost to Defend your Capital cities,because without these you loose all hope of repairing or building any new units, in order to defend your Country.[:-]
Another tip,don't attack with any unit you have positioned in Belgrade in the future,because this unit will more than likely sustain damage and be weakened,making it an easier target when it is attacked by Austrian forces.
Big mistake leaving Belgrade undefended? There is a massive morale penalty now in place for loosing Capital cities![&:]
Tip for anyone playing as the Entente : In order to defend Serbia,Russia needs to be aggressive against the Austrian border,which should force Austria to keep a strong defense against Russia.France and Britain should use their naval forces in the Mediterranean to escort French & British troops to assist Serbia.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:06 am
by suprass81
We will see what happen. I'm useing strategy that works very well for last patch.
I didn't attack with serbians so they wereat ful strenght.
Serbian's arty can fire once in 5 or 4 turns- for me it's not enough.
In last patch it worked- if now it's bad strategy I will find something new. I'm playing this version "blind".
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:23 am
by suprass81
ORIGINAL: kirk23
Hi Suprass81,
First strategic error you made was saving the Garrison unit that was attacked,It may sound heartless,but this unit is best sacrificed in order to buy you some time,because it will take the Austrian units another couple of attacks against this hapless Garrison unit in order to destroy it,also disbanding your Artillery at the start was a very big boo boo,your Strategy has to be first and foremost to Defend your Capital cities,because without these you loose all hope of repairing or building any new units, in order to defend your Country.[:-]
Another tip,don't attack with any unit you have positioned in Belgrade in the future,because this unit will more than likely sustain damage and be weakened,making it an easier target when it is attacked by Austrian forces.
Big mistake leaving Belgrade undefended? There is a massive morale penalty now in place for loosing Capital cities![&:]
Tip for anyone playing as the Entente : In order to defend Serbia,Russia needs to be aggressive against the Austrian border,which should force Austria to keep a strong defense against Russia.France and Britain should use their naval forces in the Mediterranean to escort French & British troops to assist Serbia.
About Serbians production- there is no chance to save Belgrade production. It's only a matter of time and there will be 0 PP in this city before 1914 ends. So only morale penalty is something that can force me to defend capital at all cost. Leaving infantry corps in Belgrade make them open to attack them from three directions so t's another waste of PP and manpower. This is why I decided to leave this city. It's prabobly first and only city that I left without soldiers (Maybe Warsaw if Germans strike hard in the first turn... I will see).
About hopeless garrison- maybe you are right. But I'm based on my old tactics and strategies- if they don't work it will be good to think about something new
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:43 pm
by suprass81
Turn 4
13 AUG 1914
In serbia german arty took passition in Belgrade- Looks like Operating want's to finnish Serbia quickly. I have my possitions and I will defend.
Reinforcements for Serbia
In France I took a big risk. I had to open my right flank to stop march towards Parris and to save Calais. We will see if Operating enter this hole. I will have 2 new garrisons next turn.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:29 pm
by suprass81
Turn 5
20 AUG 1914
Serbia holds for now. I have no PP to repair army. I've got -5 income so I don't know how long I can hold. Reinforcments are comeing but AH block them from landing. Next turn there will be a grat naval battle
In France it looks like I will be able to save Calais. Than I will try to retake connection to Antwerp.
Russia prepare strike to put some preasure to Koenigsberg.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:50 am
by suprass81
Turn 6
3 SEP 1914
In serbia I'm moveing back to get some time...
In France I try to save Calais. If it fall I will have to defend Paris. I've made a small counter attack. We will se what will happen next turn...
In Russia I am prepareing attack on Koenigsberg. Also I will try to put som preasure to AH. (I forgot to take picture of AH front :/)
In this version Entente is much more dificult to play. It looks like there will be much less units to operate. Russia is mobilizing her force realy slow. Also research are streched in time and it will make a big differences in France and Russia. Untill spring 1915 there will be very difficult to make any caunterattack in France and CP will have lot of initiative... I will probably loose but I think thous changes are best so far. I have to work on new strategy.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:27 pm
by suprass81
Turn 7
17 SEP 1914
Serbia is dead. Nothing more to say. I will try to save something or at last take some atention for as long as I can.
Eastern front.
I've decided to start my actions at southern sector of this fron to focus Operating there. Next turn I will attack on Koenigsberg. I hope something will happen- if not I'm in a really bad positin.
France.
Operating took Calais and it took away british Drednought...? He bloked two hex of water and I've bloked third with my ship- my drednought didn't had any place to go out of the port and disappeared. Is this correct? There is no info in casulties tabel...
ground situation looks promissing. Maybe I can stop Germans at this possition.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:48 pm
by suprass81
Turn8
1 OCT 1914
Tannenberg Battle has begun! Russians with smaller forces gathered in the first weeks of mobilisation sucessfully attacked Koenigsberg. Just befor attack Germans strike in the Warsaw direction. This mean that I will have some time to try defend Koenigsberg. I don't think I will be able to hold it but at last Operating lost some PP and National Morale! Strategic manuvers in southern sector. Now I must hold and try to harras at the same time.
Is this a bug? My fleet in port will suffer so much casulties? Hmmmm....
At the same time French lounche a series of counterattacks on Germans. I will try to preasur from both sides. Germans infantry corpse are at about 8 effectivnes- this is my chance. I don't belive I can retake Calais in 1914.
Serbia. Nothing new except that I can make some repairs. All is sold so I have 4 PP income... I will try to reinforce this front but I don't think I will be fast enough...
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:04 am
by suprass81
Turn 9
15 OCT 1914
Germans retook Koenigsberg. I was thinkuing that armour train is able to stand against three garrisons with support from sea. Don't you thing that armourd train is to weak?
In Serbia- reinforcements has arrived. I am afraid that it's too late.
In France situation looks stable.
Rusian's fleet goes down... I think I can keep germans buisy with my subs.
Turn 10
29 OCT 1914
In Russia I will try to stop CP offensive at my current positions. Than I will prepare offensive to strike both sides (east and west) at the same moment.
In France situation without changes
I hope I will be able to save Skopie.
Turn 11
12 NOV 1914
In Rusia allmoust quiet. CP attaked only at Warsaw (and took it) and in the southern part of front.
In France I had to withdraw my exposed infantry corps. I feel safe here. I've got some options to manuver in the defence line. With some reserves I can defend long time. After Skopie is captured I will maybe turn back french reinforcments from road to Serbia...
Serbia is lost.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:54 pm
by suprass81
Turn 14
24 DEC 1914
Russians landed near Consatntinopole! I will try to attack Constantinolpole and capture it! If I'm lucky I will have to defeat only small garrison. I will have backup from sea- Wish me luck (this can be a turning point of this war)
Eastern front. Looks like north part of this front will be stable for now. In the south I will try to push AH and maybe capture Lemberg
In Egypt Britsh forces took positions and are waitning for sneak landing below Aqaba. This will push Ottoman's arty back and enable me to strike their possitions.
Quiet in France. I'm starting to prepare my spring offensive. I will atack in the southern sector wher Germans keep only garrisons. In previouse versions this situation was very dengerouse for CP. We will se what it will be like this time.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:08 pm
by suprass81
Turn 16
21 JAN 1915
Sorry but I forgot to take pictures last twoo turns.
In Russia I had to command a general retreat to take new defensive positions. I wil try to stop Germans at Vilna and AH at Vinnytsia
In France allmoust quiet. Some small fights.
Trying to send my convoy safe to England
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:45 pm
by suprass81
Turn 17
4 FEB 1915
In Russia I'm trying to take new defensive positions.
In southern sector I've made counter attack. I've got a feeleing that I'm not able to stop CP in this front.
In France Germans attacked near Verdun and killed one infantry corps... My plan didn't changed- I'm going to strike soon...
Nothing more interesting to report.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:43 am
by suprass81
Turn 18
18 FEB 1915
In Russia I can't do anything. I will try to hold for as much as I can and stay alive as long as I can. I hope I can hold for 2 turns so first new corpses will enter this front.
I will try to build defence at Vinnitsia.
In France all is allmoust set to launch an offensive. British arty will be sent to Nancy. I want to make a big punch befor Germans can regroup.
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:55 am
by suprass81
Turn 19
4 Mar 1915
It seems that Russians cant stop Germans but maybee Operating will send there a large army- it looks like he is doing that. If I can drag his atantion some more maybe french offensive can bring some sucess.
I'm ready- next turn I will strike. See you in Strassburg! (wish me luck becouse I will need it).
RE: Suprass vs Operating 1.60 (no Operating please)
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:57 am
by suprass81
Turn 20
I think that Research is unfair. There is to large gap between Entente and CP If I'm correct Russians gain lev II for infantry last turn so there is the reason of her defeat (one frome the reasons on the ground). Other are anballanced as well. For example- British need about 12 turns to research new level for fighter planes and Germans have level 2 from about 3 or 4 turns- 20 turns for CP in advance? Is this fair or not? Maybe I can't see something different that make Entente better in other aspects...
In Russia CP overhelming my forces. Soon I will be destroyed.
In France Operating just moved his northern sector. I can't see wher he gores but at las one corps is sent to Sranssburg soo.... I've decided to attack from other side too. British infantry attacked enemy's possitions near Calais. My air forces are massacerd by Germans and I can't do anything for a 12 turns... This turn I've killed one garrison and bring down to 4 another one. I'm affraid that Operating scouted my plans... :/
