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A few questions please on fleets and supply and 'stuff'.

What do players do when playing as the British and try to maintain a blockade? Do they:

a) set up a rotation system, creating more, but smaller fleets, and/or
b) sail transport squadrons to the blockading fleets? If the latter, presumably they themselves are going to need a protective fleet.

c) can warships enter the circles with the merchant fleets in and try and find and sink enemy ships?

d) also, with Fog of War on, to what extent can the French and Spanish in port see the enemy at sea?

a), yes but you can maintain at sea supply using (b), but sooner or later you will run out of cohesion, at that stage you need to go to port. Cohesion < 100% has a very direct effect on combat effectiveness, so that is probably the real constraint for say a blockade off N France. Resupply is a bit more tricky the further you are from your main ports

b) depends, is no bad idea as they are quite a prize for your opponent but it depends. If you are moving supply ships from southern english ports to a fleet off Brittany or in the Channel (or La Manche) then its probably pretty safe

edit: ships in the green stance and with the evade special order are very hard to pin down, so if you are moving unescorted transports use this combination

c) yes, but its a challenge. Your best use (as the British) is to commit your ships to escort your convoys. These are what the French, Spanish, ungrateful Americans (post-1812) will be hunting. Remember that all the problems of resupply and cohesion apply to your enemy so raiding is hard to sustain - but also hard to stop

d) quite a lot. The key variables are detect/evade scores modified by terrain and weather. Of course you can use this as a trap - a weak (beatable) squadron immediately off shore and a much stronger one moving into the province later in the turn. This might lure the enemy into battle. Of course it might also lose you the smaller fleet and you find the enemy has slipped out to sea by the time the big fleet arrives - the key concept of 'march to the sound of the guns' doesn't apply at sea

edit: there are three levels to the detection routine:

1) you can see the counter and bring it to battle (subject to if you have set a combat delay)
2) you can see the counter but can't pin them down (so the jolly Spanish sailors being rude to the noble Horatio is a good eg)
3) sheer screaming frustration - you know they are there but can't even see the counter. This will mostly happen if the enemy is tribal, partisans or light raiders (eg cossacks) in poorly developed (or very closed) terrain. The only clue is you lose/don't gain military control - this matters as this can close off your supply lines.

Best solution is to make sure you use units/commanders with high detect traits and hope. Of course a French commander who invades Russia, or Spain after it turns against them, is going to face real challenges. One of the things that the AGE game system does very well is to capture the problems of asymetric warfare
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Turn 3
January 16-21 1805


Okay lets start off with a review of the announcements. There are only 74 this time - 34 fewer than before. [Edit: strangely, like the previous turn, if I come out of the game and then go back in, the number of announcements changes - the number has now increased to 76]

Russia appears to have agreed to the State visit. Relations moves from 10 to 11.

Lets see what the manual says:
- State visits do much to improve diplomatic ties
- If accepted (which it was) it lasts several turns and provides a random 1-5 relationship bonus at the end. So the increase from 10 to 11 is not the end bonus??
- Once the effects are over I must wait 12 turns before arranging another.

Both Austria and Prussia have agreed to a coalition! Husssah! (although relations have dipped slightly with both). Saxony becomes our ally

Russia and Austria have agreed mutual supply.

Austrians, Spanish and Ottomans have raised taxes (EP to Money)

Sweden and Egypt decline a state visit. Miserable bunch, but the US have agreed.

Interestingly Spain has sought peace. I must go to the diplomacy screen to answer it. Spain will cede the region of Ronda - I thought that was in Wales? I have no idea where Ronda is but I decide to accept the proposal. I want the Little Corporal to attack Spain.

Notification received of promotions for Wellesley (General) and Moore (Marshal).

Ah right - here is some news on the previous naval manoeuvrings:
- The Portsmouth Squadron was delayed 2 days in port before moving (that at least explains why the fleet was so slow).

My volunteers have arrived in Liverpool and Dublin. Number not increased so maybe there is a delay while they turn into troops from raw recruits.

Russia is doing a whole lot of developing

French volunteers are coming on tap in a few regions and Austria is doing some too.

Prussia and Spain are seizing horses, requisitioning etc etc.

My transport shipping continues to transport supply points [Need to look at this - where and why?] My fleets have delivered 381 money (similar to last time) and 0 war supply.

My units in the field have received 1 replacement from our reserve units [Need to understand this - how does this differ from conscripts?]

Confirmation that all naval patrols failed to find anyone and the various fleets that have taken up station. Although it also states that the Mediterranean Fleet engaged the Spanish at Trafalgar???

A new National Government Modifier is available F4?

Merchant Fleets 1 and 2 suffer 1 hit from weather and exhaustion

Atlantic Fleet (12), Jamaica Squadron (2) and Channel Fleet (4) all suffer similarly
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My volunteers have arrived in Liverpool [will need to check this with the conscripts tab??] Same in Dublin. Maybe there is a delay while they turn into troops from raw recruits.


They'll show up at the conscript pool once the decision is done.
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Turn 3
January 16-21 1805


Right lets look at the top left buttons.

Diplomacy: I try and get in the Danes good books by proposing a state visit.

I take no further action. Lets see what happens with the Spanish and the peace proposal.
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Turn 4
January 22-31 1805


The AI went a bit quick so I did not fully see what happened. They said Davout's(?) Corps was sent to Boulogne, and there is a Dutch Fleet in the Pas de Calais. I might try something offensive with Admiral Keith if his Cohesion is okay.

But first, what about the other naval units? Admirals Jervis and Gardiner are now on station. Admiral Calder is at Portsmouth. I will make a note of the fleet stats and see how quickly the squadrons repair cohesion.

I seem to have trouble manoeuvring the units in port. Calder' fleet now has a load of troops mixed with it? What have I done - are these on board ship?

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I seem to have trouble manoeuvring the units in port. Calder' fleet now has a load of troops mixed with it? What have I done - are these on board ship?

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Yes.

Chose the land units and drag them to land.
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I seem to have trouble manoeuvring the units in port. Calder' fleet now has a load of troops mixed with it? What have I done - are these on board ship?

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Yes.

Chose the land units and drag them to land.
warspite1

Whoops.... I'm sure I'll get the hang of it eventually [;)]
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So the new patch is not compatible with existing games? [:(]

That's disappointing.....
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So the new patch is not compatible with existing games? [:(]

That's disappointing.....

Well, you're not that far in. :)

I'd restart mine even though it's Turn 37.
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So the new patch is not compatible with existing games? [:(]

That's disappointing.....
So did you get a new game going?
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So the new patch is not compatible with existing games? [:(]

That's disappointing.....
So did you get a new game going?
warspite1

Two issues:

1. Just as I got this going I got the chance of a MWIF 4-player. MWIF HAD to take preference for obvious reasons.

2. I was going to keep this going then heard there was a new version and it was not compatible.

So while I have every intention of getting this up and running again - I love this period of history so much - I need to get MWIF done and the Jutland thread finished.
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Well,mine is still going....
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No problem with patch so far with pbem I am in.

@Warspite enjoying your commentary. Looking forward to your next one.
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Warspite,

Enjoyed so much and missing you.

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