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Another new bug - remove unit digression

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:24 am
by joshuamnave
Sep/Oct '39, first allied impulse. A russian 2-5 Cav unit walks one hex into E Poland, triggering a digression. Germany removes its unit, and ends phase. When control is returned to the Russia player, the cav unit is no longer able to continue moving. The German digression effectively ended the Cavalry unit's move.

RE: Another new bug - remove unit digression

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:30 pm
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: Zartacla

Sep/Oct '39, first allied impulse. A russian 2-5 Cav unit walks one hex into E Poland, triggering a digression. Germany removes its unit, and ends phase. When control is returned to the Russia player, the cav unit is no longer able to continue moving. The German digression effectively ended the Cavalry unit's move.

Any chance of a saved game for this one?

RE: Another new bug - remove unit digression

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:29 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Centuur

ORIGINAL: Zartacla

Sep/Oct '39, first allied impulse. A russian 2-5 Cav unit walks one hex into E Poland, triggering a digression. Germany removes its unit, and ends phase. When control is returned to the Russia player, the cav unit is no longer able to continue moving. The German digression effectively ended the Cavalry unit's move.

Any chance of a saved game for this one?
No need for a saved game. I have one that will reproduce this.

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I have to think about this. A general rule is that if your opponent does something (e.g., decides whether to intercept a moving naval group) then the phasing player is not permitted to undo any previous moves. That is what is happening here - because the German player moved his unit(s) out of Eastern Poland.

But I am inclined to agree with you that the USSR should be able to keep moving his cavalry in this case. Not that it makes a whole lot of difference in the game. That cavalry unit is not going to do anything wonderful with its remaining movement points. At most, it might move into the Baltic States. But again, it could do that in the next impulse without any substantial difference in the game.

As I said, I'll have to think about this some more.

RE: Another new bug - remove unit digression

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:35 pm
by joshuamnave
Moving into the Baltic States is precisely what it was intending to do. It can't do that in the next impulse if Germany DOW's the Baltic States on its second impulse. The only reason to move into the Baltics on the first Soviet impulse is to prevent that gambit.

If a unit moves into a port, forcing a naval digression, the unit is able to continue to move afterward. Prior to this update, the same was true of a unit moving into Eastern Poland, forcing a German relocation. This was a change in the most recent version.