Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - Start - Northeast - Narew Operational Group.
Units in the extreme northeast will fall back and form a screen against the advancing Germans. Unless the Germans get some bridges repaired in this area they won't be able to follow the retreating Poles very far due to supply problems, and even if they do they don't have enough time to reach Brest-Litowsk before the scenario ends. To the southwest of Bailystock I will pull back and form a new line.
Units in the extreme northeast will fall back and form a screen against the advancing Germans. Unless the Germans get some bridges repaired in this area they won't be able to follow the retreating Poles very far due to supply problems, and even if they do they don't have enough time to reach Brest-Litowsk before the scenario ends. To the southwest of Bailystock I will pull back and form a new line.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - Start - North - Modlin Operational Group.
Will clean up the lines in this area this turn and try to get a few more units into the area in case the Germans break through anywhere.
Will clean up the lines in this area this turn and try to get a few more units into the area in case the Germans break through anywhere.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - Start - West - Poznan Operational Group and Remnants of Pomorze Operational Group.
Will probably just clean up the lines in this sector this turn.
Will probably just clean up the lines in this sector this turn.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - Start - Southwest - Lodz Operational Group and Rydz-Smigly with elements of Krakow, Pomorze and Poznan Operational Groups
I will move some units around to clean up the lines, but these units will hold their ground from now on.
I will move some units around to clean up the lines, but these units will hold their ground from now on.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - Start - South - Krakow Operational Group.
The units in the far south of this sector in the Lysa Gora Mountains and surrounding forest will continue to fall back but the units southwest of Radom will just clean up their lines and hold their ground.
The units in the far south of this sector in the Lysa Gora Mountains and surrounding forest will continue to fall back but the units southwest of Radom will just clean up their lines and hold their ground.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - Start - Southeast - Karpathy Operational Group.
Units in this sector will continue a rapid retreat to the northeast.
Units in this sector will continue a rapid retreat to the northeast.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
And that completes the tour of the front lines for the start of turn 7. And for a historical note, the post above made me a "Matrix Hero". Yay!
RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - Start - Losses.
Polish losses leveled off this turn as stated previously.
Polish losses leveled off this turn as stated previously.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
And lastly, here is an animated gif of the starting positions at the start of the Polish turns for turns 1-7.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Yep... watching this animation I'd say that the German has been far to cautious in his advance. The German mobile troops should be able to outrun the Poles at any time. Maybe he is overly worried about losses..... or maybe he's purchased the 4 extra turns option! [;)]
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty & well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
We're not playing the campaign so my opponent couldn't have played the more time card.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Ah right... then he shouldn't really be worried about losses then either.....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty & well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
I don't know what his thinking is, but he shouldn't be worried about losses any more than I am worried about keeping evac routes open. Pop over to his AAR and ask him. He has been commenting in his emails that he wished more people would comment in his AAR thread!
Oh and the card you are thinking about gives four more days, not turns. Since each turn in the Case White scenario is two days, the "more time" card would give two more turns.
Oh and the card you are thinking about gives four more days, not turns. Since each turn in the Case White scenario is two days, the "more time" card would give two more turns.
RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
ORIGINAL: Barthheart
Yep... watching this animation I'd say that the German has been far to cautious in his advance. The German mobile troops should be able to outrun the Poles at any time. Maybe he is overly worried about losses..... or maybe he's purchased the 4 extra turns option! [;)]
I want to make one more comment about this. The animation only shows the situation at the start of the Polish turn, not both the start and end of the turn, so it doesn't show how much separation the Polish units achieved between their front line units and the German units each turn. In the animation it looks like the Germans were always in contact with the Polish units, which is misleading as everywhere except for the North, Northeast and around Lodz the Poles retreated aggressively which forced the Germans to spend most of their action points every turn chasing the Polish units and didn't leave them very many action points left to attack with.
Having said that I would still say the Germans have not been aggressive enough.
RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
but i m still sceptic if there's a way for the german to cut off huge parts of the poles if the polish defender plays this strategy as well as rocketman.
RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Thanks Keunert. I gave gwgardner the advice to use this tactic in his AAR thread (see this post), but he ended up trying something different. When I started this game I wanted to see if my advice would actually work in a real game. So far it seems to hove worked pretty well.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
ORIGINAL: RocketMan
ORIGINAL: RedCharlie65
Excellent AAR! It is a great read. Could you post more screenshots of unit TO&Es? I'm curious as to the make-up of the polish forces.
Sure. Shown below are a typical Polish Infantry Regiment, Artillery Regiment and Calvary Regiment.
Thanks. Interesting. So Polish Infantry used the BAR as a squad automatic weapon. I wonder what their typical rifle was?
RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - End - Northeast - Narew Operational Group
Pulling back fast northeast of Bailystok and slower southwest of Bailystok.
Pulling back fast northeast of Bailystok and slower southwest of Bailystok.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - End - North - Modlin Operational Group
Trying to get a double line formed in this sector.
Trying to get a double line formed in this sector.
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RE: Case White PBEM: RocketMan-Poland vs. CYORESS1-Axis : Polish Thread
Turn 7 - End - West - Poznan Operational Group and Remnants of Pomorze Operational Group.
Pulled back the line a little to remove the bulge. There is still a regiment of the 15th Infantry Division holding out in Thorn, but it is the last Polish unit cut off anywhere.
Pulled back the line a little to remove the bulge. There is still a regiment of the 15th Infantry Division holding out in Thorn, but it is the last Polish unit cut off anywhere.
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