Cant place unit counters/symbols on map

[PussEKatt]

I know how to make a sub HQ and I know how to transfer units into the sub HQ but when I select the sub Hq on the map I have units in the "subformations"box but how do I get to place these units on the map ?
I selected another sub HQ and it showed that I had 144 Rifles,6 Trucks and 2 artillery but where are they and how do I move them onto the map ?
In the first example all my units ( in the sub HQ ) are shown on the right hand side as sub formations
In the second example all my units are shown the same way as they are shown when you first go to your city on the first turn ( they have a little box for each type of unit )
Surely after getting my units into the sub HQ they should look the way they do on your first turn,counters/tyles so that you can move them seperately ?!

[ernieschwitz]

I think I know what you are seeing, but I am not sure.

They show that way either because you have an officer in that HQ (which would lave no space for the SFTs to show as pictures) or you have more than 8 SFTs there. Again there is no space to show them all.

But I believe if you just press the transfer button, they will show up like they should

[PussEKatt]

My sub HQ shows,on the left,the name of the HQ and on the right,2 pictures ( like you have when you start a new game ) 1 picture shows 56 Rifles and the other shows 3 trucks.There is no leader.I selected another sub HQ ( one that has a leader ) and I got 3 boxes.1- the name of the HQ,2 - The name and picture of the commander and 3- has 3 sub formations in it but no counters/pieces /units that I can move onto the map.
I transferred from my sub HQ to a Rifle Unit counter on the map 1 armoured car and 5 Rifles but when I select the counter that I transferred to,there is nothing.I transferred correctly because the "Do Transfer" button lit up.
I tell you what I dont understand.You say that there are no units shown because there is a picture of the commander.Everyone advises that you have a commander and staff,for the bonus they give but if you have a commander you cant see,or get to your units ?!
I tell you what,I looked on the forums and the first post i made was "Where is the tutorial" ( you might remember that,because you answered it ) any way,that was on the 21st of October and I had this game for about 2 weeks before I posted on these forums,so thats 7 weeks I have been trying to get up and running on this game ( way toooo long )I played "hearts of iron"and because that had a tutorial that got you up and running I had no problem with it at all.I am really interested in this game and I really want to play it but I am starting to get brassed off with how long it is taking.I am going to give it another 2 weeks and if I cant actully play it properly by that time I am going to uninstall it ( along with my other 3 games from VR designs ) and write it off as a waste of money.

[ernieschwitz]

I am sorry you are feeling that way, but there is little I can do. Maybe this game isn't for you. Seems a shame though. You have made quite the investment of time, but so have I. I understand you are frustrated. I would be too.

[Magpius]

Hi Puss,
I'm not trying to piss you off any further, but I suggest you watch through maybe 'Das Tactics' youtube channel on setting up and running a game, he goes into a huge amount of detail on this game, as this, and Shadow Empire are 2 of his favourites. There are also plenty of other content creatives that have detailed 'Lets Play' and Tutorials for the VR series. It is still highly regarded.
Also hard to understand the issues without screen grabs. ATG folks better than I would be able to resolve any issues.
Regards,
M.

[PussEKatt]

@emieschwitz Yes,I am really interested in playing this game.I have been trying all the things that you have shown me and that is what got me really interested because while trying your stuff I have been experementing myself nd I like the feel of this game.I wouldent say that this game is not for me because I have played ( and enjoy playing The Operational art of war 2,3 and4 also Steel panthers and Combat mission games and as I said before Hearts of iron,so it is definately my sort of game but I have to call time.I still cant actually play the game,after 7 weeks and even then I like this game so much that I am giving it another 2 weeks before I give it up.It has to end somewhere and (sadly ) that will be in another 2 weeks if I still cant actually play it.
Thank you for all the time you spent showing me stuff ( hopefully it will not be a wast ) time will tell

[PussEKatt]

@ magpius Thank you for your suggestions as well.could you post the address of that video "Das tactics" I will try that.Only last night I was watching a utube video called "Basics" or something like that and it showed how to do all kinds of stuff but when it came to units and sub HQs,he just said "when you move tour units out of the sub HQ" Thats telling me what to do,but not how to do it ?!I have also looked at quite a few other utube videos about this game and most of them seem to forget that it is about a newbie because they will say the same thing ( when you do this or when you do that ) without actually telling you how to do it and as for that guy "Tortega power or something similar,he goes on for around 15/20 minutes to give you 10 minutes of information.
The thing is,I know how to build a sub HQ,I know how to transfer units,I know how to assigne HQs and upgrade oli etc.My problem is that after successfully transferring
units,they dont appear on the map as counters that I can move about.All I get is a picture of Riflemen and it says that I have 52.....But where are they ?
So,as I said before,I really like this game but you have to call time sometime and for me that will be in another 2 weeks.
Thank you for your suggestions and hopefully that "Das tactics" video will solve my problem.

[Magpius]

Puss,
This may be a communications issue.
Das Tactics is as easy to find on Youtube as Tortuga Power, or any other lets play or tutorial for Advanced Tactics Gold.
As to your specific problem of missing counters, without a series of screenshots, I don't think you're going to get much more of a response.
I can't really add much more myself.
M

[ernieschwitz]

Anticipating the need for taking a screenshot, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoTpIYLBtKs

Hint: You can actually presse the ctrland v key at the same time, when writing a message on here, to paste the screenshot once you've made it.

[PussEKatt]

Ok,so here is a screenshot of the contents of the Rifleman number 42 where I sent some units to.This shows that I sent them AND that they were recieved BUT where are they ? the counters ?!

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[PussEKatt]

Here is a screen shot of the contents of my sub HQ number 53

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[PussEKatt]

What do all those different numbers on my units mean ?

[ernieschwitz]

The numbers are Power Points of the unit, modified by experience, and readiness. They are a sort of measure of how strong your unit is.

[ernieschwitz]

Ok,so here is a screenshot of the contents of the Rifleman number 42 where I sent some units to.This shows that I sent them AND that they were recieved BUT where are they ? the counters ?!
Screenshot (8).png

There are several "number 42" units. Which one?

Don't you think you by a mistake sent them to the "64 unit" ?

[PussEKatt]

There are several "number 42" units. Which one?
If you look at the bottom hlf of the screen,you will see that I sent them to the one that is selected,number 42 Mezieres garrison the same goes for the sub formation, the sub HQ number 53 ( wich is hi-lited ) is the one that has these sub formations.
So,all these units,15 Rifles,5 SMG,2MG and 1 morter are all in the Mezieres garrison but,as i asked before,where are the counters ?

[ernieschwitz]

What do you mean by counters?

The pictures on the counters? or the riflemen you sent? or what?

Also what I am suggesting is that you may have misclicked, and sent them to the "62" unit instead. That would explain why it is "bigger" than the other units that are "42".

The game doesn't make mistakes like this... and if it did it would mean you had a very corrupted version, that had been corrupted in such a way as to make the code readable another way. An astronomically small chance. Something like the chance that you put your cup on a table, and it fell through the table, because Quantum Mechanics said there is a very small chance it would happen...

[ernieschwitz]

Ok,so here is a screenshot of the contents of the Rifleman number 42 where I sent some units to.This shows that I sent them AND that they were recieved BUT where are they ? the counters ?!
Screenshot (8).png

Also, this doesn't show that you sent them, nor that they were received. Just shows the unit as it is.

From what you are describing, 8 riflemen, disappeared into thin air...

[PussEKatt]

By counters I mean the pieces that you move on the map like the engineers and rifiles that you move at the start of the game.I am not on my PC right now, so I will check out what you said about the rifleman that has number 62 and get back to you in 45/60 minutes.

Also, this doesn't show that you sent them, nor that they were received. Just shows the unit as it is.
I dont understand what you mean,surely if I select a counter ( tile/piece ) the lower screen shows what I have selected ?

[ernieschwitz]

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I dont understand what you mean,surely if I select a counter ( tile/piece ) the lower screen shows what I have selected ?

Yes, it shows what you selected, but not the actions you've taken (or not taken) to get to that situation.

[PussEKatt]

I selected that counter/piece/tile that has 62 on it and it shows the same type of information as he Meziere Garrison in one of my screenshots.I select another 3/4 counters/game pieces and they ALL show different amounts of Rifles/SMG etc etc but none of them have pieces that I can move ?!