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How to Hide a Task Force
Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 10:37 am
by Rudd
This article has tactics on how to hide
How to Hide a Task Force by Andy Pico
RE: How to Hide a Task Force
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:09 pm
by magi
Interesting....
RE: How to Hide a Task Force
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:22 am
by KungPao
Thanks for share, great reading
RE: How to Hide a Task Force
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:48 am
by falcon2006
Interesting question. Due to limits in the game system, you can not hide a task force in the game, or at least like what the military does nowadays. In reality, a task force can make fake radio signal and imitate formation of merchants just like the Americans did in NORPAC 82. But in the game, the difference between sensors on a satellite and on an airplane is not accurate. For example, in reality, it takes days to read the photo taken by a satellite and find the location of the task force, but in the game, if the sensor detects the task force, it just knows that this is the task force. This even happens on the radio reconnaissance satellite in the game, it just knows that this radio frequency is made by the real task force, and even knows the exact model of every ship in it just through the signal.
RE: How to Hide a Task Force
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:55 am
by Dysta
My best trick is using the teleport script. Order the unit to the specific area with a teleport trigger. When enter, it will teleport it/them to another place with a specific duration of time, and then re-teleport back again.
But it's very flawed and limited script to 'hide' your unit(s). Like I wished before, would like to see the garrison system works for ground units, to enter a building for both hiding, and covering from hostile attack.
RE: How to Hide a Task Force
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:33 pm
by mikmykWS
ORIGINAL: falcon2006
Interesting question. Due to limits in the game system, you can not hide a task force in the game, or at least like what the military does nowadays. In reality, a task force can make fake radio signal and imitate formation of merchants just like the Americans did in NORPAC 82. But in the game, the difference between sensors on a satellite and on an airplane is not accurate. For example, in reality, it takes days to read the photo taken by a satellite and find the location of the task force, but in the game, if the sensor detects the task force, it just knows that this is the task force. This even happens on the radio reconnaissance satellite in the game, it just knows that this radio frequency is made by the real task force, and even knows the exact model of every ship in it just through the signal.
We definitely know about the speed of communications but we also know about selling games. If we slowed things down as they are in real life the game wouldn't be as fun so we've decided to make a tradeoff.
There are a couple of ways you could design a scenario to account for this.
1)Create a satellite side thats neutral. Use a on station or enters area trigger with a message action that reports what's seen.
2)Add civilian radars to ships.
3)lua adds a number of possibilities.
Hope these suggestions are helpful
Mike
RE: How to Hide a Task Force
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:29 pm
by thewood1
As Mike said...I do this all the time. Create sides based on time lag in communications. You'd be amazed what you can do. I do this a lot with submarines. I let the AI control it with detailed prebuilt plans. People need to use the tools they are given. There are even ways to simulate communications detection and setting up decoy ships.
One thing I haven't tried is setting up an enemy radar on a neutral ship and see what happens through the detection and ID process.
RE: How to Hide a Task Force
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:50 pm
by magi
ORIGINAL: thewood1
As Mike said...I do this all the time. Create sides based on time lag in communications. You'd be amazed what you can do. I do this a lot with submarines. I let the AI control it with detailed prebuilt plans. People need to use the tools they are given.
Very interesting...... I have been thinking about doing this.....
RE: How to Hide a Task Force
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:13 pm
by Gunner98
One thing I haven't tried is setting up an enemy radar on a neutral ship and see what happens through the detection and ID process.
Sorry, I missed this thread when it came out. I have done this and it works brilliantly, both with aircraft and ships. Neutral side, friendly to bad guys will share info.
There are a couple of tricks you can use to disguise it as well. Two sides, both neutral to player, names slightly different, both with same emitter. Like for instance a fishing fleet (NF 9.1) and when the Shipwrecks start coming in from the Oscar, it's not safe to be a whale as the player hunts down the snooper sub and the fishing fleet just moves on...
Save idea with civil air traffic (NF-3).
B