Into the Light HLYA(G) VS Beethoven(S)

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Re: Into the Light HLYA(G) VS Beethoven(S)

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Time to go out to dinner, will be back later for more updates.
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Turn 1

Air Phase

The Soviets may not need their Airforce to win(I believe someone was saying something on that lines earlier in WITE2 life cycle(eyes Beethoven)But he is using the Soviet Airforce in our game:) ). But the Germans sure does need to use his to win. As usual the German Airforce will be used but not in any strength until the Army is in place for the real beginning of this war, after turn 5 and before turn 8. Don't get me wrong here, some players blow off the early turns as a given for a specified outcome. Wrong, this posturing is what will win or lose the game for you. Don't blow the opening turns as Germany or you are going to end up quiting before winter or get hammered hard the rest of the game. Plan well.

Hurray for the Fatherland!!
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Turn 1

Ground Phase

I am not pushing hard and fast in this game. Although in one area of the map I am, the Vitebsk area. This area I want for strategic importance by turn 2. Why not "hard & fast"? I just don't want my forces to get crapped on. You have to know a good stopping point for CPP and defense setting up your own reserve movement for any battles. Another reason for not rushing is that I want the Soviet nice and "PLUMP". Plump Soviet units are juicy to play with. No chasing these puny Soviet Divisions around the map, instead they will be maxed out TOE and with SU's. Of course this goes against the normal rhetoric with The Great Wall of Luga or the The Great Wall of Smolensk. But I have always loved doing this to Soviets all the way back to the Glorified Land Bridge Iron Wall in War in the East 1. It is my calling card and I look forward to chewing on some very PLUMP Soviet Divisions again.

With that said I try something different this game by getting some of my troops a few extra Experience in the South. Little did I know that the Soviet 195th Rifle division would put up a very tough fighting retreat. I ended up retreating this dang Division 4 times. Sheesh, if this game is going to be like this division, I am in trouble. But I am happy, many divisions got some extra Experience points! Soviets in a nice little pile for our first pocket. Go Germany!

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Turn 1

Ground Phase

So quick deviation, I sent every single SU I could (not from the 11th Army since they are locked at start) to OKH by hand. But before that I had moved OKH to the "Fountain of Life" otherwise known as Berlin.

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Turn 1

Ground Phase

Any Questions here?

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Turn 1

Ground Phase

How about here? Any Questions here?

*****Shout out to EwaldVonKleist the player of this game, here is to you returning to this game. I miss you man & hurry back. I will be using PZ Group 1 a great deal in your Honor. I gave him my Boyz, DAS REICH. Where DAS Reich goes is where I go. Those who follow me knows that by now. It is all about the "REICH"!!!!*****

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Re: Into the Light HLYA(G) VS Beethoven(S)

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HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:59 am Turn 1

Ground Phase

How about here? Any Questions here?

*****Shout out to EwaldVonKleist the player of this game, here is to you returning to this game. I miss you man & hurry back. I will be using PZ Group 1 a great deal in your Honor. I gave him my Boyz, DAS REICH. Where DAS Reich goes is where I go. Those who follow me knows that by now. It is all about the "REICH"!!!!*****


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Turn 1

Ground Phase

South

More "boring" turn 1 pictures. But BORING is good! You can learn a great deal from boring. This one the final of the South. Very very very conservative South final. Maybe even go so far as to say "TOO" conservative. Yes, I can do the Rovno pocket. Yes I can do the rush to Rumanian border. Yes, I can do both Rovno & rush to Rumanian border together. I have chosen not to do so. I have my reasons, one of which you already know from a post above, but there are other reasons. Lets just go with "Ebb & Flow" at the moment ;-P

Here in the South End turn Picture you can see the new combat runtime for Cities has had "No Effect" on taking Lvov. Plus it is only one dang AT Brigade in there & you really should be using "Fire and Maneuver" to get that AT Brigade out of there without any large scale battle of retreating Soviets into that City. Please practice "Fire and Maneuver" if that is happening to you.

You will also notice I put all my Security Regiments back into Division form. Leaving those Security Regiments as Regiments is going to get them either blown up (surrendered) or very badly mauled. Take that away from your Soviet, save yourself some anguish and put them back into Division form (if you can).

Pockets should be solid being this is turn 1. You can also notice my favorite Division in the game, DAS Reich. This game DAS Reich will be outfitted with ALL SS SU's in a very "BEASTLY" BEAST of BEAST modes. Stay tune for that.

I build NO depots in the South. What you see is what I have. The FBD is under 3/16 PZ Regiment. Ok I bet you are wondering why I built no depots? Right? Oh, You aren't wondering? Ok, I will move on. But if you are just post that you are curious and I will explain.

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Turn 1

Ground Phase

South

Here is the last pocket in the South. Should be secure but you never know :) Again, very conservative.

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Turn 1

Ground Phase

Center bottom (4th Army)

People that follow me know that I push all Soviets out of their nice cozy bunkers 1st turn. That way I don't have to do that on turn 2 which you don't have the benefit of turn 1's special movement. So I get them out of there now for quick mop-up next turn.

You will notice that I have been working from the South to the North. I do it this way because of route points. IF you start in the North and work South on your attacks you destroy some very beneficial route points advantageous for the Germans routing Soviets. Here in the 4th Army area is just such one of those areas. Thus, I learned long long long time ago to always start in the South and work North.

Pocket should be secure with very few units routed out. I really don't count much any more. But you never know of course.


Again, NO new depot was built this turn in this area. The FBD is under the XII Corps HQ going down the dual track towards Minsk.


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Turn 1

Ground Phase

Center

WELLllllllllllll, I have a royal "F" up here. If you see the white Regiment 2/161 I moved too far and is protruding into and surrounded by many Soviets that may recover to be able to surround, attack, and route this Regiment. I had my head up my anus and was just moving units happy go lucky. When after I moved it I was like, "You BIG DUMMY, you moved this too far". You know that nagging voice inside your head telling you you really should know better? Yeah, that voice. The one that is almost always right. It always gets the better of me and I was not able to sleep right. Until Beethoven showed me a snapshot from his turn with this unit surrounded. GAH! Then I could not sleep at all..... Ok ok ok, I am exaggerating a bit but I was worried and Beethoven did show a snapshot of the unit surrounded on discord taunting me of its routing away. Such treatment from the enemy!!!!!

Again, I knock all Soviets out of their bunkers. I form another pocket with units around Minsk. Also the pocket should be solid & very few units routed away.

No new depots made in this snapshot either

***I guess I should start LARPing for some of the units through the whole war. Now that would be funny as heck.

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Turn 1

Ground Phase

Mom says it is time to go to bed. So bed it is. Catch everyone tomorrow.
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HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:43 am Another reason for not rushing is that I want the Soviet nice and "PLUMP". Plump Soviet units are juicy to play with. No chasing these puny Soviet Divisions around the map, instead they will be maxed out TOE and with SU's. Of course this goes against the normal rhetoric with The Great Wall of Luga or the The Great Wall of Smolensk. But I have always loved doing this to Soviets all the way back to the Glorified Land Bridge Iron Wall in War in the East 1. It is my calling card and I look forward to chewing on some very PLUMP Soviet Divisions again.
Well then, you will be pleased to learn that I have indeed been preparing some nice PLUMP full TOE units for you :D

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These particular juicy morsels, as you can see, are located on the land bridge, so they form the vanguard of The Great Wall of Smolensk.

Some of my units are even so fat and happy that they are MORE than 100% TOE :lol:

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They need to go on a diet. But as we like to say, you never can have enough support.
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Beethoven1 wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:43 pm
HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:43 am Another reason for not rushing is that I want the Soviet nice and "PLUMP". Plump Soviet units are juicy to play with. No chasing these puny Soviet Divisions around the map, instead they will be maxed out TOE and with SU's. Of course this goes against the normal rhetoric with The Great Wall of Luga or the The Great Wall of Smolensk. But I have always loved doing this to Soviets all the way back to the Glorified Land Bridge Iron Wall in War in the East 1. It is my calling card and I look forward to chewing on some very PLUMP Soviet Divisions again.
Well then, you will be pleased to learn that I have indeed been preparing some nice PLUMP full TOE units for you :D

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These particular juicy morsels, as you can see, are located on the land bridge, so they form the vanguard of The Great Wall of Smolensk.

Some of my units are even so fat and happy that they are MORE than 100% TOE :lol:

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They need to go on a diet. But as we like to say, you never can have enough support.

YUM YUM Time!!!
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@Beethoven I would be embarrassed not having 130% TOE yet on turn 2 for the Soviets with Supply Level 4. What are you running over there? 100% pffffft, you slacker ;-P
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Ok, a little deviation before going to the Ground phase of the North since Mr. Comrade Beethoven showed some "FAT" 100% TOE NKVD regiments. Lets counter with some of their already deceased comrade in arms.... shall we look? ;-)



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And we continue with dealing with those pesky NKVD Regiments here;


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And their Airborne brothers met a similar fate;
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And finally I was able to even get a Division.
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You will notice I don't play around with these play toys of the Soviets. I Deliberate attack thos pesky things on the first turn and 2nd to get rid of them. Always done it and always will when I have enough MP's to do so. Circumstances dictate. Of course they go away after while but I give them their due justice, death.
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EwaldvonKleist wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:33 am
HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:59 am Turn 1

Ground Phase

How about here? Any Questions here?

*****Shout out to EwaldVonKleist the player of this game, here is to you returning to this game. I miss you man & hurry back. I will be using PZ Group 1 a great deal in your Honor. I gave him my Boyz, DAS REICH. Where DAS Reich goes is where I go. Those who follow me knows that by now. It is all about the "REICH"!!!!*****


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