RAD won't assign to Bezhetsk

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RAD won't assign to Bezhetsk

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Over the last 4 turns or more I've had XII RAD labour group asigned to various HQs within 5 hexes of Bezhetsk (220,110) intending for it to repair rail to the depot built there. The hex is not on the front line and not fully stacked but nobody will send them there. The labour group appears just to sit in the HQ every turn. Is this bad luck, is it being asigned to dig trenches, or is there something off with Bezhetsk?

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No way to know for sure what's going on there. Gary worked on the rail code several times after release. It's not straightforward, has randoms, and has enough going on that there's no guarantee that you will get a rail hex repaired. It was not something we intend to go back to. Is this near the frontline? Isn't there a limit as to how close to an enemy hex these units will operate?
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It's two hexes or so from the front line. RADs will repair rail in a frontline hex and even if without a friendly combat unit, as long as no enemy units are adjacent.
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So they will repair even within a few hexes of enemy units? I may be thinking of something else that doesn't happen near the enemy. I don't know why it isn't repairing. Gary always says it's easier to find why something does happen then to find why something doesn't happen.
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Joel Billings wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 8:42 pm So they will repair even within a few hexes of enemy units? I may be thinking of something else that doesn't happen near the enemy. I don't know why it isn't repairing. Gary always says it's easier to find why something does happen then to find why something doesn't happen.
Yes, they'll repair frontline hexes so long as no enemy is adjacent.

It just occured to me, could supply be an issue here? Currently, the RAD in question has 12 supply out of 18 need.

In any case, I just transferred two smaller and well supplied RAD groups to several local HQs to see if they do the job.
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Could be, but it might be nearby freight or supplies in nearby cities. Don't remember what gets used to repair rails, but pretty sure there is a cost of some kind.
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All three RADs remained in their HQs, whatever's going on it's more than bad luck.
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Screenshot?
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Jango32 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 5:09 am Screenshot?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rGO7_T ... sp=sharing
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Where's the FBD in all this?
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There is no FBD.
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I have seen that sometimes the SUs will not deploy within 2 hexes of an enemy unit. Don't understand why, because sometimes they do but in my current game there was one hex near Lenningrad where it wouldn't deploy until the Soviets were pushed back an extra hex.
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tyronec wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 9:36 pm I have seen that sometimes the SUs will not deploy within 2 hexes of an enemy unit. Don't understand why, because sometimes they do but in my current game there was one hex near Lenningrad where it wouldn't deploy until the Soviets were pushed back an extra hex.
Possibly, but unless that repeats it could just be a coincidence. Was it during snow or blizzard?

I'm getting more strange results in heavy snow and blizzard like two near 100% ToE Rumanian RR SUs stacked leaving 58% still to repair in a turn, while in another hex just one of the same unit leaves only 2% unrepaired. The underperforming SUs are actually better supplied than the single SU.
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Possibly, but unless that repeats it could just be a coincidence. Was it during snow or blizzard?
No, it was during the '41 push for Lenningrad.
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tyronec wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 10:25 am
Possibly, but unless that repeats it could just be a coincidence. Was it during snow or blizzard?
No, it was during the '41 push for Lenningrad.
I've often seen that RADs will occaionally not deploy to repair for a turn but will do so subsequently far behind the frontline, much too far for enemy unit proximity to be an issue. I've always assumed this was due to an initiative or admin check failure. Could this explain your experience?
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I've often seen that RADs will occaionally not deploy to repair for a turn but will do so subsequently far behind the frontline, much too far for enemy unit proximity to be an issue. I've always assumed this was due to an initiative or admin check failure. Could this explain your experience?
It could, this one didn't deploy for at least two turns, as far as I remember.
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Re: RAD won't assign to Bezhetsk

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Here's another odd one. 4 posts up you'll read "two near 100% ToE Rumanian RR SUs stacked leaving 58% still to repair in a turn". A turn later they're still in the hex which remains 58% still to repair. https://drive.google.com/file/d/18BgnYD ... sp=sharing
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