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A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/14/2004 3:47:11 AM   
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I would love to see a good SP:WaW quality talctical, and perhaps UV level strategic companion game of the ages of Rome. Roman legions and navies fighting from the Punic Wars to the end of the Empire. A lot to ask, I know. However I'm sure that Matrix could do it, if anyone can. Perhaps it could be released in mods, such as CL will be. The opening mod could concentrate on the Punic Wars with caesar's invasions, Augustus' stablization of the empire, and subsequent mods reflecting the changing roles and duties of the legions and the Republic/Empire's supply and political situations. Just a thought.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/14/2004 5:01:01 AM   
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Well 'Rome: Total War' is scheduled for later this year. Turn-based strategy with real-time tactical battles. Even if the initial game doesn't cover what you want I'm sure it would be modded in the way you desire.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/14/2004 7:19:01 AM   
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Well 'Rome: Total War' is scheduled for later this year. Turn-based strategy with real-time tactical battles


wow. Sounds like my kind of game.

any sneak peaks?

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/14/2004 9:37:57 AM   
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any sneak peaks?



Yup... "Shogun: Total War" and "Medieval: Total War". Expect more of the same, only with ancients.

The tactical battles in those games are terrific, although IMHO the "strategy" layer (especially in Medieval) is in the "watching paint dry" category. Fortunately, you don't have to bother with that if you don't want to.

Rome seems flavour of the month days with "Legion", "Praetorians", "Pax Romana" etc. Despite major faults in design, PR is a quite fun especially if you wan't to dabble in politics - which it actually simulates rather well.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/14/2004 4:58:28 PM   
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so which is the best roman / ancient game out there ?

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/14/2004 6:46:35 PM   
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The best pure wargames IMHO are still the Great Battles series (Alexander, Hannibal, Caesar) which are straight conversions of the GMT boardgames. You'll have trouble finding them now, although all run just fine under XP if you can (Alex needs setting both the install and game execs to W95 compatibility).

Pax Romana is potentially great game that got lost somewhere along the line. Spartan is a pretty good turn-based strat game, although your control over events in battles (which do look very nice) is limited - probably being more "realistic" as a consequence, actually.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/14/2004 6:52:02 PM   
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Well 'Rome: Total War' is scheduled for later this year. Turn-based strategy with real-time tactical battles


wow. Sounds like my kind of game.

any sneak peaks?


Tons of info over at gamespot.com

The screenshots look awesome. Even more massive than Shogun.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/14/2004 8:42:10 PM   
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quote:

Tons of info over at gamespot.com

The screenshots look awesome. Even more massive than Shogun.


And it's 3d! No more screwing around with sprites! I'm only hoping that they stick with the same formula as Shogun and Medieval; open ended gameplay is a must.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/15/2004 4:21:03 AM   
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As long as they clean up the UI for the strat map.

Bleh. No one spends much time there, so click-click-click-rightclick-click-rightclick-click-END TURN. would be nice. Right now it's click-rightclick-click-click-click-click-rightclick-click-click-click-click-click-click-rightclick-click-click-click-click-click-
click-click-click-click-click-click-click-click-rightclick-END TURN, and that's primarily due to the useless build notifications.

All they have to do to halve the strat map agony is put a next-build dropdown menu in that
notification screen. Then life would be good.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/15/2004 2:54:16 PM   
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Yeah, I have the Great Battles collectors edition which I'm sure Herts would probably slice my jugular for if given half the chance. ;) Hell, I still have the tabletop Alexander one.

Still, I've never had more fun than with the Total War series for not only country control, but battlefield control. The mixture of the two is wholesome sweetness for control freaks, yet it's easy-going enough that it doesn't seem too labor intensive. It's just plain exquisite fun. . Medieval is still on Gamestop's best-seller list after being out for 2 years. That says something for us wannabe historians - most of which we've never spoken to. Amazing series.

I can't wait to see Rome:TW

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/15/2004 3:31:40 PM   
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Yeah, I have the Great Battles collectors edition which I'm sure Herts would probably slice my jugular for if given half the chance. ;) Hell, I still have the tabletop Alexander one.




LOL... yeah. I only have the Alexander one, now... I lost Hannibal years ago. I drove me nuts to see the collectors edition had been up for download at the Underdogs and then pulled because some obsure company I'd never heard of (who wouldn't ship to the UK anyway) was trying to sell a copy of Caesar they presumably found at the bottom of a drawer somewhere...

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/15/2004 7:29:38 PM   
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Like I said Herts.. we can alway hook up and see where it goes in abandonwareland.

'Cause chicks dig it!


For all you fair FNGs... just try one of the Total War series. Magnificent!

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/15/2004 7:42:42 PM   
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Tons of info over at gamespot.com

The screenshots look awesome. Even more massive than Shogun


Thanks.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/15/2004 9:07:38 PM   
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For the grand strategic angle look here:

http://www.fenrir.dk/index.php

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/19/2004 12:28:52 AM   
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Is it shareware Rune?

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/19/2004 7:44:18 AM   
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There used to be a game for the Sega Genesis called Centurion:Defender of Rome.Loved that game.Animations were crap but it was good fun.Once you got far enough that you were taking on the Scythians and Parthians you would lose entire consular armies just trying to beat them down.Gameplay was simple but there were several layers to it.Sigh..the good old days of gaming.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/19/2004 8:32:18 AM   
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I know that game, it's available for PC on the site that must not be named.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/19/2004 10:37:19 AM   
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I know that game, it's available for PC on the site that must not be named.


What is this site that must not be named stuff?

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/19/2004 8:33:37 PM   
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I know that game, it's available for PC on the site that must not be named.


yep. i have it.

also iplayed it on the amiga IIRC.

quite nice simple game IMHO.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/19/2004 9:56:03 PM   
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WOOF!

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/20/2004 7:40:45 AM   
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I know that game, it's available for PC on the site that must not be named.


yep. i have it.

also iplayed it on the amiga IIRC.

quite nice simple game IMHO.

MALIKI: think of an animal....(litte riddle *g*)


Animal...animal...????Any other clues?I'm lost here.

heres a riddle for you(just as payback()

What walks on 4 legs in the morning, 2 legs in the afternoon, and 3 legs in the evening?

An oldie but a goodie

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/20/2004 10:05:48 AM   
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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/20/2004 12:23:57 PM   
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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/20/2004 5:42:22 PM   
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Im looking forward to Rome myself.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/20/2004 7:46:17 PM   
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A few years ago I was fortunate in getting GBCE thru mail-order not long before it was discontinued. I'm also a big fan of the Age of Empires/Kings series. Now, I'm looking at the previews for Rome:Total War and thinking, wow, this looks great, the best of both worlds. The Gamesradar preview ( http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/previews/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=26255&subsectionid=1599 )
was downright breathless in its description (oooh! aaah!).
I haven't played any of the previous Total War series. From what I've read on this thread, I should be adding Rome:TW to my must-buy list.

Any dissenting opinions on the Total War titles?

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/20/2004 8:59:19 PM   
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There was one game I had.. Romanian Emperium... or Emperim Romanian.... something sounding like that. Roman wargame published around 1985 or so. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/21/2004 2:09:26 AM   
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I just saw one of the in-game trailers for Rome:TW. It simply looks gorgeous. I see many similarities between this and the AoE/AoK game system, but visually it really is breathtaking. As time goes on and PCs become more powerful, we're getting closer to the ultimate wargame combination of sophisicated grand strategy/economics and detailed tactical combat. This game appears to be a step in the right direction.

The day will eventually come when WWII in all its grand strategic/economic/diplomatic complexity will be combined with a realistic operational and then tactical combat engine. Of course, the immersion-level of something like this would require one to completely sever all outside social communication and literally live in this virtual world. I won't touch the philosophical/social implications of this.

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/21/2004 7:54:50 AM   
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This site wouldn't happen to share the name with a cartoon character from the old Rocky and Bullwinkle show now would it???


YES! WOOF!

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RE: A Game I'd Like to See: Roman Republic, Roman Empire - 5/21/2004 11:05:17 AM   
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It may not be Roman empire oriented, but I think I'll likely pick up Spartan when it comes out here in the US and get my fill of some turn-based empire building for a bit. I think it arrives sometime next week here.

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