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What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/8/2004 4:45:34 PM   
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If I had to pick one:

Sergeant Steiner.

The sequel to Cross of Iron with Richard Burton. I guess somebody couldn't accept a ficticious hero who was not only a skilled soldier but could also maintain an ant-war sentiment while fighting for survival on the side of the NAZIs. So the solution was to transfer him to the western front, then have him become a traitor, join the enemy and kill his best friend. Willi Heinrich must of rolled over in his grave when this came out.
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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/8/2004 5:52:41 PM   
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The Green Berets. `Nuff said.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/8/2004 6:07:00 PM   
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The Patriot with Mel Gibson. All around just plain stupid.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/8/2004 7:45:24 PM   
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Pearl Harbour.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/9/2004 12:51:03 AM   
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WINDTALKERS.....this movie to me is the most piece of crap movie I have ever see.

Yup,Cage kills em all,with the rare tommy gun in the pacific.He's poppin pills cuz he's hard-core all while baby-sitting a navajo....yadda yadda yadda.

The bad thing is,it coulda been a geat movie!It had a good plot but it was hollywoodized into utter BS.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/9/2004 7:03:11 PM   
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I'll agree with Riverbravo in that Windtalkers was such a disappointment--director John Woo made a "Rambo on Saipan" that simply blew wind. However, my bottom choice is still 1965's Battle of the Bulge-- they picked locations in Spain to represent the Ardennes??

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 2:07:22 AM   
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Well....... I will save my vote for the Battle of Britain staring Tom Cruise . Think its due out sometime in 05.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 3:47:35 AM   
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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 4:07:27 AM   
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I have to say all Mel Gibson's War Movies. The reason being they are portrayed as Historically accurate, but in reality are just the opposite. The British never behaved like the SS in the Revolution, although to be fair there were massacres on both sides.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 4:23:44 AM   
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Well this would be a tuff one. I have to admit there are a LOT of bad war movies, so I tend to avoid them. One that got quite a few of us upset over here was U-571... Once again not only did they attempt to re-write history, they got it totaly wrong! I especialy take offense when I see them stating credits at the end that are totaly & factualy wrong. Further more, the dates and not to mention numerous other items were totaly in error.

BTW, can someone tell me WHAT ON EARTH is a German battleship doing out in the middle of the atlantic at that time? Sheesh! What another bitchslap to the Brits. Come on...

Won't be very many British, or German fans watching that movie again...

Sadest part is, kids who watch it are taking it as fact....



P.S.. I do have a confession to make, I have somewhat watched Rambo III more than once in my life. I won't attempt to make excuses for myself on that one.....But at least you're SUPPOSED to realize you're watching fiction!

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 5:17:28 AM   
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Well....... I will save my vote for the Battle of Britain staring Tom Cruise . Think its due out sometime in 05.


What? Please...no.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 7:15:31 AM   
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quote:

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Well....... I will save my vote for the Battle of Britain staring Tom Cruise . Think its due out sometime in 05.



*Gasp* What ???????????? Got any website details????????????

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 7:44:51 AM   
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*Gasp* What ???????????? Got any website details????????????

The movie will be about Cruise im sure. Not the real life of Billy Fiske who volunteered with a hand full of other American flyers for the battle of Britain. But yes as far as I know Hollyweird is-or was (not 100% sure) hard at work on this

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 9:28:56 AM   
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Thanks for the update......yeah it would be great if you could find a web site.....the ONE thing that I liked about the movie Pearl Harbour was the air to air shots of BoB.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 9:48:41 AM   
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I'm not nominationg "A Bridge To Far" but I have a question about the movie. After the Irish Guards jump off we have the whole bombardment scene with the bomber planes. I'm wondering if those were accurate, they look like Hawk 75 A3 or A4s to me, were the Brits still using those in 1944?

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 9:53:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: riverbravo

WINDTALKERS.....this movie to me is the most piece of crap movie I have ever see.

Yup,Cage kills em all,with the rare tommy gun in the pacific.He's poppin pills cuz he's hard-core all while baby-sitting a navajo....yadda yadda yadda.

The bad thing is,it coulda been a geat movie!It had a good plot but it was hollywoodized into utter BS.


I totally agree. What a great idea for a movie Windtalkers was... AND WHAT A TOTAL PIECE OF CRAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The scene which highlights its total lack of credibilty is where a guy with a Bazooka pops up, fires his round off and totally flames a whole ridgeline worth of Japs.... Total Junk....


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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 12:00:01 PM   
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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 5:47:01 PM   
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The Big Red One, starring Lee Marvin and Luke Skywalker

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 6:21:34 PM   
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Hey I LIKED the Big Red One, it was a "fun" movie like Patton :)

Now I have to take Issue with Windtalkers being on this list, simply because it sucked sufficiently to be totally demoted right out of war movie status.

It was as bad as Pearl Harbour, which also has been officially demoted to being a bad way to get laid (pick a better chick flick next time guys).

Thus, I will offer as worst war movie (one that IS a war movie, but was still bad), and pick hmmmmm

Can't think of any right now, must be the filters working again. Blocks harmful memories :)

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 10:11:30 PM   
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The Patriot (I have no words for this fiasco)
Revolution (This little catastrophe is perhaps the worst movie that Al Pacino ever made)
The Windtalkers (We're lucky this little gem didn't start another Indian uprising)
U-571 (Complete and utter nonsense)
Pearl Harbor (Total crap)
Battle of the Bulge (In the fianl tank battle - what happened to the BLIZZARD and SNOW?)
Captain Corelli's Mandalin (one word AAAAAAUUUUUUGGGGHHH!!!!!!)

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/10/2004 11:18:25 PM   
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Sorry, it wasn't a movie--it was a TV series:

'Combat' was dreadful....

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/11/2004 9:18:44 PM   
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All of the above plus:

The Thin Red Line - man I just couldn't wait for Caviezel to finally get shot. Maybe if they took out the idiotic narration and the slow motion shots of his girlfriend it would have been a tad better.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/11/2004 10:52:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Makoto

I'm not nominationg "A Bridge To Far" but I have a question about the movie. After the Irish Guards jump off we have the whole bombardment scene with the bomber planes. I'm wondering if those were accurate, they look like Hawk 75 A3 or A4s to me, were the Brits still using those in 1944?



As far as I'm aware we never used them at all, although the French did in 1940. The P-40 would have been the first of the line in RAF service.

This was the era when the original planes were no longer available (Typhoons, probably), but they couldn't use computer trickery to fake them. I suspect, like the tanks in Patton and Battle of the Bulge, they were whatever they could find still in service somewhere (Spanish probably) that looked vaguely right. Maybe some airplane buff with the movie to hand can tell us what they were.

At least they found some real Shermans..

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/12/2004 12:33:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gunny

If I had to pick one:

Sergeant Steiner.

The sequel to Cross of Iron with Richard Burton. I guess somebody couldn't accept a ficticious hero who was not only a skilled soldier but could also maintain an ant-war sentiment while fighting for survival on the side of the NAZIs. So the solution was to transfer him to the western front, then have him become a traitor, join the enemy and kill his best friend. Willi Heinrich must of rolled over in his grave when this came out.


What's the title? A sequel of Cross of Iron???

By the way, my particular list of bad war movies are:
-Pearl Harbor.
-Windtalkers.
-The thin (bo)red line.
-Saving Private Ryan.
-All of the "made-for-video" war movies about Vietnam (any fan of Chuck Norris out there? )
-Rambo III.
-Rambo II.

P.D: I'd like to see any time of my life, some of the war soviet movies made on the URSS during the Stalin rule... critics says that those films are polithically smelly, but also great blockbuster spectacles...

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/12/2004 12:45:48 AM   
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I always forget to include the Thin Red Line simply becuase it is SOOOOOOOOOO bad that I try to block it from my memory.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/12/2004 2:32:32 AM   
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The Thin Red Line is sorta good by the same reason Apocalypse Now is good.

Otherwise, I think you've already named all the ones I was thinking of.

As for digging info on the Tom Cruise movie-to-be, you guys MUST learn to tap into the cornucopia that is the Internet Movie Data Base!

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/12/2004 5:06:14 AM   
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I always forget to include the Thin Red Line simply becuase it is SOOOOOOOOOO bad that I try to block it from my memory.


Everytime this thread come up I dread it because I know someone will say how bad Thin Red Line was. Well guess what - lots of people think it's a great movie, such as:

http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1999/01/010802.html
http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/t/thin_red.html
http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/review.asp?mid=77254&afl=imdb
http://www.boxoffice.com/scripts/fiw.dll?GetReview&where=Name&terms=THE+THIN+RED+LIN

The movie seems to try to combine the style of independent film with the content of a war movie - which is probably why it seems to evoke "I loved it" or "I hated it" type of reaction and not much in between. I loved it. Of course, you're entitled to hate it.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/12/2004 5:13:25 AM   
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If we judged movies by the comments of "reviewers" and box office receipts, we would end up watching even more garbage and be even more miserable.

Thin Red Line was good literature, and as a film about as good as the movie Dune was.

And at the risk of sounding superior, those reviewers can get bent.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/12/2004 5:42:55 AM   
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If we judged movies by the comments of "reviewers" and box office receipts, we would end up watching even more garbage and be even more miserable.

Thin Red Line was good literature, and as a film about as good as the movie Dune was.

And at the risk of sounding superior, those reviewers can get bent.


I read the book and saw the movie. I thought the book was mediocre and the movie was excellent.

The only point of mentioning the reviews is to illustrate that many, many people liked the movie. But you're entitled to hate it.

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RE: What's Your worst war movie ever - 5/12/2004 7:58:54 AM   
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Worst war movie ever?
Anything Mel Gibson made. I tear it apart, throw it on the ground and poop.

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