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I think in the first post he was asking about CS vs the PB series. In that way the only comparisons would be the old outdated version of CS which included EF II, WF and RS, since there is no PB series that cover the Middle East.
So my comments in post #3 were with that in mind.
Both are really completely different game designs although the original CS was designed by John Tiller (originally with the first and second EF, WF and RS games, and as far as I know with the Matrix CS for JT version as well). Jason Petho as far as I know, has only worked or modified the original CS of games to create the Middle East CS and the future Vietnam CS game.
The older CS which has not been updated in I am thinking over a decade is what I think the original poster was referring to in the comparison of CS to the JTS PB series. Why he posted this question in the CS ME folder is beyond me, since like I said, the PB has no Modern series to compare it with.
The PB series only contains three modules, Normandy, Kursk and North Africa. That is it. The original CS contained East Front II, West Front and Rising Sun. The newer CS Middle East is the successor to the original CS, but it only contains the 1948-1980(?) Middle East conflicts. I believe the intent is after CS Vietnam is released then Jason will circle back and redo the East Front (III) game, and then (hopefully) redo the West Front game series.
As confusing as all that is, all the CS games are generally the same in that they are both 3D and 2D platoon level games and only the CS Middle East (and possibly the Vietnam one) have historical maps (I don't think that the original CS, EF-WF-RS, had historical maps per se). Likewise all three games in the JTS series of platoon level games (Normandy, Kursk, and North Africa) are platoon level games as well, but they don't have a 3D aspect, are slightly more historic in my view and have historically recreated maps for all three games.
Lastly, I still own the original CS series (i.e. EF2, WF and RS) produced by Matrix (and I still have the original versions from TalonSoft) and the CS Middle East by Jason and the JTS PB games and I enjoy all of them but I tend to play the PB one over the Matrix CS one, and play the CS Middle East one (since there is no 'rival') and enjoy them all.
So we can really blame this all on John Tiller (RIP John), lol. He started the whole complicated mess while working at TalonSoft, continued the confusion at HPS, came back to Matrix and unleased the CS (EFII, WF, and RS) upon us and then created the 3 PB series for the JTS company and then we can blame Jason for continuing the utter madness by release CS Middle East and taunting us with Vietnam and dangling the carrot with East Front III!
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