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Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 3:17:52 AM   
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Why can't I invade? Unit has supply and 1 Operation point. It is right on an invasion hex. When I click to invade it says no units available.



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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 3:24:46 AM   
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No landing craft

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 3:28:12 AM   
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Nope. I have more than enough.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 3:31:58 AM   
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garrison unit?

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 3:33:36 AM   
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No garrison. It is a division. Not garrisoned.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 3:39:40 AM   
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Then im out of ideas. Theres no Landing craft icon on your screen, so that was my first guess. Theres no landing craft icon when you transport garrison unit. That was my second guess

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 3:44:23 AM   
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I will check when I am back in the game.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 11:59:52 AM   
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I saw that unit in our game and wondered why it was there...figured it was a landing craft.

Press Z and see what is shows.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 2:39:31 PM   
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garrison unit
no landing craft
weather
out of operation points

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 4:29:34 PM   
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Looks like he had an operation point...the dot on the unit.
I am sure he still has LS
My guess would be rain? But I can't tell from the pic if it is raining on the beach.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 4:34:11 PM   
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A lot of beach hexes are weirdly connected. If the hex showed valid invasion with "Z" before the move, the it is almost always because the unit was in garrison before it embarked. It's unfortunate that there is no way to keep track of this without, say, renaming or taking notes. Multiple times I've tried to invade with garrison troops on their way to a different garrison. Normal rain is fine for invasion.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 4:40:46 PM   
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The unit is not garrisoned.
I have landing craft.
I have operation points.
I did not think a single rain drop would prevent invasion though knew that it odds were worse.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 5:45:59 PM   
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You can only invade if clear or cold...if I remember.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 7:39:05 PM   
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Can't invade with cold.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 7:50:20 PM   
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Incbob,

Where are the available landing craft to conduct the non-port landing? Page 86 of manual shows a picture.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 8:05:25 PM   
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They usually show up as a small popout to the right of the anchor sign for naval disembarking. Because it’s not here, I thought the unit embarked while garrisoned.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 8:31:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: stjeand
You can only invade if clear or cold...if I remember.

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Can't invade with cold.


The Equatorial weather zone doesn't have any cold month, right? I see none in the WarPlan Pacific Weather Zone Data pdf document.

Incbob, I was in the same situation the other day, I had to wait newt turn to invade with a similar non Marines unit. I thought I was simply lacking of an operational point.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 10:59:47 PM   
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If the weather doc says no then it doesn't.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/25/2021 11:02:08 PM   
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I am able to invade that location.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 5/26/2021 6:46:55 PM   
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Can you display a messagebox with the exact reason why you can't invade?

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RE: Why can't I invade - 6/28/2021 10:52:19 PM   
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Probably not worth starting a new thread so I will tack my question here: What is the ratio of landing craft to troop size/strength that I should be shooting for? Thxs.,👍

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RE: Why can't I invade - 6/28/2021 11:11:48 PM   
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What do you mean? For the enemy strength? I would estimate probably 5:1 for expected enemy strength for a coup de main with air/naval support. 6-7:1 for no support (defender's jungle/port advantage). It's also nice if you can clear the beach with a low strength unit so that subsequent landing are unopposed and don't suffer the amphibious penalty.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 6/28/2021 11:40:29 PM   
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Nah, I mean how many landing craft should I be building on the production screen to supply a division/corp/etc so it can invade. Apologies for the noob question.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 6/29/2021 2:52:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WYBaugh

Can you display a messagebox with the exact reason why you can't invade?


This would be a nice enhancement as I had same issue with WarPLan.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 6/29/2021 11:10:45 AM   
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quote:

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Nah, I mean how many landing craft should I be building on the production screen to supply a division/corp/etc so it can invade. Apologies for the noob question.

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Nah, I mean how many landing craft should I be building on the production screen to supply a division/corp/etc so it can invade. Apologies for the noob question.


Check the STR of the unit...that is how many LC you need...
With the following exceptions.

Mech and Armor take double.
Armies currently take double (bug)

So a 3/10 Inf Div will use 3 LC.

BUT and 30/30 Armor Corps will use 60 LC.

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RE: Why can't I invade - 6/29/2021 1:02:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: stjeand


quote:

ORIGINAL: ChuckK

Nah, I mean how many landing craft should I be building on the production screen to supply a division/corp/etc so it can invade. Apologies for the noob question.

quote:

Nah, I mean how many landing craft should I be building on the production screen to supply a division/corp/etc so it can invade. Apologies for the noob question.


Check the STR of the unit...that is how many LC you need...
With the following exceptions.

Mech and Armor take double.
Armies currently take double (bug)

So a 3/10 Inf Div will use 3 LC.

BUT and 30/30 Armor Corps will use 60 LC.


Gotcha, ty kindly. 👍

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RE: Why can't I invade - 6/29/2021 2:36:18 PM   
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I think the only reasons if you checked the spot beforehand and have LC are weather and the unit is in garrison mode (in which case landing craft number won't show up on the embarked unit's unit card).

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RE: Why can't I invade - 6/29/2021 5:10:45 PM   
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Did you finally found the reason why you can't invade?

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