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air strike escort question - 4/28/2021 7:59:31 PM   


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I have a maritime ASuW strike with Tu-22 backfires. The strike aircraft (Tu-22) are set to a section (2x aircraft) flight size and I've checked allow off-axis attack. The Backfires do what they are told and form up in groups of 2 and set an appropriate off-axis route.

However I also have several OECM and recon aircraft marked as escorts with a single aircraft flight size. These escorts form up as single aircraft but all are bunched up together in the exact same spot and do not spread out similar to the Backfires who are on off-axis routes. It doesn't seem like that is what they should do, but does the game typically make escorts fly this way?
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RE: air strike escort question - 4/28/2021 8:38:26 PM   


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That's a good question. Have not really noticed before but I often set up separate missions for those types when building a big Sov/Rus Naval aviation strike.

What I tend to do is set up 2-4 Recon missions with a couple AC types in each. These have two RPs which parallel the core route the bombers will take. Then (if played by AI) I jump the RPs forward every now and then to keep the radars forward of the bombers

I then set up Jammer and Chaff missions using the forward RPs of the Recon missions, when everything gets close I might drop them back a bit.

Doesn't answer your question but it is an alternative

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RE: air strike escort question - 4/29/2021 2:08:15 PM   


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but I often set up separate missions for those types

Yup, separating things into separate mission often works around oddities or just needed to get things to operate the way one might prefer.
Like even if the oecm "escorts" aircraft always went airborne first, just due to speed differences they can end up far far behind.

@orca - I've seen the same behavior, all bunched up as effectively their own group (till engaging anyway) following 1 un-viewable flight plan with no course table, with no easy or obvious way to avoid it or choose some other alternative. If it's by explicit design idk, probably not, probably just the nature of how escorts are implemented,I agree it's kinda weird it many cases. I just don't ever use "escorts" and create separate supporting missions, and at times lua around the issues (though just separate missions and launch timing offsets solve most challenges 2/3 times), especially when it comes to ocem situations and aircraft of dissimilar types involved.

If you want to use Escorts though and it's the AI you're trying to control escort behavior, you can get the course tables from the other non-escort units, and basically copy them into the escorts tables accomplishing what you want where escorts actually follow the course of specifically generated strike-flightpath - that I have done. If player side, the player can manually set a path for them.

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RE: air strike escort question - 4/29/2021 10:16:13 PM   

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I often set up separate missions for those types when building a big Sov/Rus Naval aviation strike.

Likewise. In fact normally I have one mission for the Strike, One for the EW Aircraft, One for the Fighter Escorts and if Appropriate one for the SEAD Mission.

Also A lot of times I will set up a holding box outside of enemy radar range using a Patrol or Support mission. This is great for refueling the strike before they go in. If I do that I may assign targets to individual groups rather than set up a strike mission. also if a mission has MALDs I set it up separately as you have to control launching the drones manually.

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RE: air strike escort question - 4/30/2021 11:15:46 PM   


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Thanks for the replies and advise. I’m actually working on a hypothetical scenario set in 2025 in which the USSR didn’t dissolve and the scenario is basically a recreation on the classic Soviet-NATO GUIK battles. There is a large Soviet bomber strike!

Is there a scenario that you’ve created that uses a chaff mission?

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