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Yugoslavia coup - 3/5/2021 3:30:08 PM   
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How much variance is given the Yugoslavian coup? It hasn't joined the Axis, so my opponent must have invoked it, but its now going into July 41 and still no coup. Is there also a possibility it doesn't happen?
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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/5/2021 3:39:06 PM   
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I think it does not happen if London is in Axis hands.

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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/5/2021 6:51:10 PM   
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Not the case here. England wasn't invaded. This is just the variable execution that was instituted in the game for when Yugoslavia has a coup. I would just like to know what the plus/minus in turns for its activation, as I'm 3+ turns beyond the historical coup.

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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/5/2021 8:49:50 PM   
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Hi Havoc1371, here are the event details:

DE 104 – UK: Support a Pro-Allied Coup in Yugoslavia ?

Event fires: There is a 50% chance per turn from the 24th February 1941 when London is in Allied hands, France has surrendered, both Germany and Italy are Axis and not surrendered, and Yugoslavia is aligned with the Axis but not fully mobilized.

Cost of accepting:
60 MPPs at 30 MPPs a turn for 2 turns.

Yes: Yugoslavia joins the Allies and deploys a HQ unit at Belgrade. Greece has a 50% chance of swinging 30-40% towards the Allies, while Germany loses 1,000 National Morale points, and will only recoup them when Yugoslavia surrenders.

No: Yugoslavia signs the Tripartite Pact and joins the Axis, while Germany gains 1,000 National Morale points.

So either:

1) UK said NO
2) One or more conditions for YES arn't there
3) It somehow failed to hit that 50% chance per turn from February to July 1941 (very unlikely but still possible)

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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/6/2021 12:59:56 AM   
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Well then it has one more turn to hit the 50%. Then it just stays at 45% Axis with no more coup "rolls"?

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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/6/2021 11:16:07 AM   
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I just said July 41 because you were in June, it isn't an end date for the event ^^ .

That said, not sure about this but maybe the roll is limited to those two turns where UK pays MPPs for the event (between 24th February and historical operation 25 against Yugoslavia 6-18 April).

And yes, Yugoslavia should remain as it is if no hit.

Well, usually, Axis wants to avoid any uncertainty before Barbarossa so Yugoslavia should be taken out one way or another by early 1941 (coup or no coup).

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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/7/2021 5:07:14 PM   
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We are playing with "historical" house rules that don't allow a player to attack a country that is currently "pro" their side. Didn't realize when they randomized the coup that it could potentially run the length of the game, acting like a Damocles sword...

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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/8/2021 9:20:30 AM   
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There is a 50% chance per turn, with no end date providing the conditions are met.

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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/10/2021 2:37:09 PM   
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So Yugoslavia did its coup in July 41. Then in the events at the end of the turn they surrendered, there was instantly partisan activity that generated a partisan. I haven't even had a post surrender turn to occupy the country. What's up with that? So the Axis has to not only invade and defeat Yugoslavia, but also needs to send units to partisan hexes immediately before ending their turn or face partisans instantly?

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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/11/2021 10:33:09 AM   
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Hopefully, Yugoslavia surrendered because Axis forces invaded and captured Belgrade?

Partisan scripts automatically become active when a country enters the war, or when it surrenders (there are different settings for both, but those are the options) though there was in real life a huge partisan uprising in Yugoslavia in 1941, and this map gives an idea of its extent:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Ustanak_u_Jugoslaviji_1941.png

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RE: Yugoslavia coup - 3/11/2021 12:55:20 PM   
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Germany needs more armored trains to counter these pesky partisans! Bonus points if they carry an ICBM ... Huuu whaat?



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