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"The Saga of Pappy Ginn" - 1/23/2021 1:13:47 PM   

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I just finished reading this almost 100 page book by Gen George Kenney. I did not know anything about Ginn until I was on the third book by Jeffrey Cox, "Blazing Star, Setting Sun." Ginn along with input from Gen Kenney modified the B-25s to be attack bombers with all those .50cal in the nose and the skip bombing techniques used around New Guinea. Ginn was retired USN and working in Manila when war broke out. His wife and four children were POWs there while he went back to Australia in the Army Air Force. Ginn was a mechanical genius who was also a pilot. The other notable about Ginn was his great story telling. When I play the Allies, I love his modified B-25s. He spent a couple of months in LA at the B-25 plant showing them how to modify them.

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RE: "The Saga of Pappy Ginn" - 1/23/2021 1:38:48 PM   

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Gin + gun = Gunn

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RE: "The Saga of Pappy Ginn" - 1/23/2021 2:33:24 PM   
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I read a book years ago, forget the guy's name, who was a bomber pilot flying one of those planes. He later went on to fly the plane that dropped Chuck Yeager's X-1 rocket plane when he officially broke the sound barrier for the first time. I think his surname was Bridgeman or something like that.

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RE: "The Saga of Pappy Ginn" - 1/23/2021 2:43:49 PM   
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Here's a link to a story about the special B-25 mentioned above:

How the B-25 Became the Ultimate Strafer...

Still can't find the name of the pilot who was involved in the rocket plane dropping. It was not Bob Cardenas, who was the pilot the day it was dropped; it was another pilot who dropped it on other flights in the program and who relates his stories as a pilot of a B-25 "strafer."

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RE: "The Saga of Pappy Ginn" - 1/23/2021 2:44:28 PM   

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I have Kenney's book - Pappy Gunn was an extraordinary character in the Pacific War. That the general took the time to write a book about him, one of his more dubious subordinates, proves this. Kenney first met Gunn when he visited his units after taking command of MacArthur's air force, and was immediately impressed by him. He is also mentioned in Bartsch' Doomed at the Start. He was actually running a small airline in the The Philippines when the war started, operating Beech 18's which were taken over by the USAAC.



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RE: "The Saga of Pappy Ginn" - 1/23/2021 5:10:07 PM   

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His family members were not POWs, they were civilians and internees.


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RE: "The Saga of Pappy Ginn" - 1/25/2021 9:06:53 PM   

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There is a very good biography 'Indestructible' by John R Bruning. It is a shame that more was not documented about the man during his lifetime. Legends abound. The Navy wanted him back (he was a retired CPO who flew for the predecessors of the Blue Angels), but he preferred not, and the Army kept him.

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RE: "The Saga of Pappy Ginn" - 1/25/2021 10:29:28 PM   


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He was an interesting character. Did all kinds of good work while his family was detained in the PI. But put up with no regimental stuff. I think he went back to running airlines in the PI post war and met his end in the 50s in an aircraft accident.

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