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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/14/2021 12:25:51 AM   
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I sent 30 Zeros from KB to sweep Darwin. They ran into 25 P-40Es. The fight ended up being fairly even, with 12 Warhawks shot down, for the loss of 8 Zeros. The Zero pilots are the original elite KB pilots. Not sure how many pilots were lost.

Japanese bombers did moderate damage to the airfield at Kunming. No CAP today.

Troops started to unload at Wyndham. The Yokosuka 5th SNLF is all that is landing. I think the defense is just a base force. All of the support shipping, and the Darwin amphibious TF, will now move from near Wyndham to a point just west of Darwin.

Attack number two at Tuyun. Better odds, reduced forts to 0, but much worse losses.

Ground combat at Tuyun (74,51)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 55671 troops, 586 guns, 447 vehicles, Assault Value = 1514

Defending force 59742 troops, 288 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1865

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 2318

Allied adjusted defense: 2089

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2714 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 219 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Vehicles lost 60 (7 destroyed, 53 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
305 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 63 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


One tank regiment is completely disabled. It will retire to the south. A couple of the divisions are at about half strength. Everyone has supply and will attack for the third time. The airfield has been bombed but showed no damage today, which means there could be a level one fort tomorrow. Not good. The second wave stack will be just short of moving into Tuyun. We will continue attacking until success or failure. Nothing in between. China was my "big plan" and I'm throwing everything at it.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/15/2021 6:15:44 AM   
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B-17Es flew to Buna to attack the airfield. Zeros were on CAP, but the bombers were effective sweepers. 3 Zeros were lost while downing 2 B-17s. Minor base damage.

Wyndham is taken. Darwin will be invaded today. No enemy interference with TFs adjacent to Darwin. Enemy ships fled Darwin's port and headed east. They were within KB's range, but all bombers were ordered not to fly, in order to avoid flying to Darwin targeting tiny ships protected by lots of fighters. I have 2 subs waiting for the fleeing ships. I suspect that they include an ACM and an AS.

Tuyun's airfield was bombed and was moderately damaged. The third deliberate attack in three days was ordered, and I finally got the disastrous results that I feared.

Ground combat at Tuyun (74,51)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 53272 troops, 586 guns, 378 vehicles, Assault Value = 2862

Defending force 59228 troops, 288 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1811

Japanese adjusted assault: 914

Allied adjusted defense: 2263

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
7715 casualties reported
Squads: 186 destroyed, 524 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 87 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 49 disabled
Guns lost 88 (19 destroyed, 69 disabled)
Vehicles lost 67 (41 destroyed, 26 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
411 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
19th Division
14th Division
15th Ind Engineer Regiment
56th Division
9th Tank Regiment
70th Division
34th Division
58th Division
3rd Tank Regiment
3rd Division
18th Division
2nd Tank Division
30th Field AA Machinecannon Company
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
16th Army
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
31st Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Corps
6th Chinese Corps
57th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
1st Group Army
4th War Area
34th Group Army


Ridiculous. I think that the terrible results were due to more severe over-stacking. The second wave was not supposed to arrive yet. They had moved 15 miles, then 15 miles. I assumed that they would move 15 miles. If they moved 16 miles, they'd advance into Tuyun, as the distance between hexes is 46 miles. Apparently that is what happened. The second wave did not contribute to the attack, and didn't suffer losses, but I suspect that they caused the outrageous number of losses due to severe over-stacking. Well, the second wave is there now. Most of the badly hurt first wave will now move out of the hex to the south to recover. When they've gotten out of the hex, then the second wave will attack. No sign of the enemy swapping units in or out so far. They really haven't needed to. Chinese losses have not been very high.

[EDIT: Maybe I lost track of the mileage to Tuyun. It's possible that I didn't check on the last day and it was already up to 45 miles. I don't know for sure. I'm second guessing things at this point.]

So we'll see how much difference a tank division makes to the fight, in a few days.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/16/2021 1:42:33 AM   
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The huge invasion task force for Darwin is engaged by 3 PT boats at Darwin. Torpedoes hit DMS W-5, sinking it, and hit xAK Iburi Maru, badly damaging it. Chaos ensues in the oversized task force.

BB Nagato collides with xAK Mansei Maru at 76 , 124
DD Hatsushima collides with xAK Nittai Maru at 76 , 124
xAK Kiyo Maru collides with xAK Mansei Maru at 76 , 124


The PT boats escape.

The task force runs into a minefield and CD guns.

DMS W-12, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-6, Shell hits 8, on fire
DMS W-1, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Amagiri
xAP Ukishima Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire


3 Japanese destroyers, dedicated to hunting the PT boats, run into 3 TMs, but neither side gets any hits in a very short engagement. Maximum visibility is 2000 yards.

Still at night, the big invasion task force runs into the 3 TMs. DMS W-1 is hit by a torpedo and sunk. More chaos.

xAP Hokoku Maru collides with xAK Kiyo Maru at 76 , 124
xAP Teison Maru collides with xAK Kiyo Maru at 76 , 124
xAK Mansei Maru collides with xAK Kiyo Maru at 76 , 124


Nagato sank one of the TMs.

2 Japanese DMS's ran into the 3 PT boats, but no fight took place. The big task force ran into the PT boats again, with both sides evading combat. Then the big task force ran into the TMs again, with no combat. Then another combat with the TMs, with no combat. All of this during the night.

RO-33 spotted the fleeing support task force near GOve, but chose not to shoot at an AG.

Yamashiro and Fuso and escorts bombarded Darwin, damaging some planes, causing 357 casualties and doing minor base damage.

The big task force was hit by more coastal guns while unloading.

CL Kashima, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Toho Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire


Then another round of CD gun hits and unloading.

DD Hatsushima, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Nenohi, Shell hits 1, on fire


The three Japanese destroyers ran into the 3 PT boats again, this time in the daylight. 2 PT boats sunk.

21 Zeros from KB swept Darwin, finding just 6 P-40Es. 3 Warhawks shot down for the loss of one Zero.

Sealion then put 2 torpedoes into badly damaged CL Kashima at Darwin, sinking the light cruiser. Yes, 2 more torpedoes that weren't duds.

Here is what is at Darwin:

Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7103 troops, 158 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 355

Defending force 24964 troops, 300 guns, 233 vehicles, Assault Value = 1064

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Australian Brigade
Gull Force
35th Avn Sup
24th Avn Sup
2nd Australian Brigade
Sparrow Force
Darwin Fortress
147th Field Artillery Battalion
Asiatic Fleet
North Territory Cmd
Darwin RAN Base Force
5th Base Group
131st Field Artillery Battalion
1st RAAF Base Wing
Darwin RAAF Base Force
A/B Hy Cst Arty

Defending units:
2nd Tank Rgt /1
16th Div /2
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
65th Brigade
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Div /6
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Bn /1
5th RF Gun Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Bn /1
25th Army /1
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /1
23rd Medium FA Rgt /1


So, lost a CL, 3 DMS and 3 xAKs. As much damage from collisions as from CD guns. Damaged ships include:

BB Nagato SYS 2/FLOT 7-6/ENG 19-16/FIRE 0 (collision with xAK)
DD Nonohi SYS 38/FLOT 32-21/ENG 0/FIRE 0 (CD guns)
DD Hatshushima SYS 26/FLOT 26-18/ENG 3-3/FIRE 0 (CD guns)
DMS W-6 SYS 47/FLOT 30-11/ENG 9-0/FIRE 0 (CD guns)
xAK Toho Maru SYS 33/FLOT 15-10/ENG 7-0/FIRE 39
xAK Nittai Maru SYS 1/FLOT 13-12/ENG 13-10/FIRE 0
xAP Hokoku Maru SYS 0/FLOT 8-8/ENG 12-8/FIRE 0
xAP Ukishima Maru SYS 54/FLOT 65-31/ENG 61-30/FIRE 32 (little hope for this ship)
xAP Teison Maru SYS 2/FLOT 15-13/ENG 42-25/FIRE 0


All ships are leaving Darwin. Ships with men still on them will stay with the carriers to the northwest of Darwin. I'd like to take Darwin and then land these troops. Troops at Darwin will attack today. Carrier bombers will support. 2 battleships from the carrier task forces will bombard.

Around 55 B-26s bombed Port Moresby. I picked the wrong day to rest the fighters at Buna and Lae.




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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/17/2021 2:29:55 AM   
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Kirishima and Hiei bombard Darwin, doing minor damage and 245 casualties. 43 Zeros from KB swept Darwin and found 9 P-40Es which were based at Katherine. 4 Warhawks shot down for the loss of a Zero (ops loss). 120 Vals and 65 Kates bombed Darwin's airbase and the troops. Very minor damage for so many planes. Thunderstorms. Lots of Vals damaged to heavy flak at Darwin. Good thing that the sweep was effective as the bombers went in without their assigned escort.

Darwin was attacked. The original plan of bringing just one division would not have been sufficient. Glad to have brought more.

Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23789 troops, 300 guns, 189 vehicles, Assault Value = 1059

Defending force 17140 troops, 254 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 336

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese adjusted assault: 1570

Allied adjusted defense: 416

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
518 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Vehicles lost 57 (4 destroyed, 53 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1792 casualties reported
Squads: 45 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 102 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 60 (30 destroyed, 30 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
65th Brigade
2nd Tank Regiment
16th Division
2nd Division
25th Army
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
Gull Force
35th Avn Sup
2nd Australian Brigade
4th Australian Brigade
24th Avn Sup
Sparrow Force
Darwin Fortress
131st Field Artillery Battalion
Asiatic Fleet
Darwin RAAF Base Force
5th Base Group
147th Field Artillery Battalion
North Territory Cmd
Darwin RAN Base Force
1st RAAF Base Wing
A/B Hy Cst Arty


The base should fall quickly. Another battleship will bombard. Can't attack immediately, though, as most units have inadequate supply. I have to run the gauntlet of CD guns again. All of the ships with men and/or supply on them will return to Darwin for another round of unloading. Need supply, so might as well unload the remaining unit fragments too.




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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/19/2021 12:23:13 AM   
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8 Aug 42 - Darwin and Tuyun

As the Japanese, I consider Darwin to be almost vital. An Allied Darwin is such a good jumping off spot. From Darwin, Timor is within reach, and from Timor, the possibilities are endless. From Timor, the Allied can go towards Java, towards Celebes, or towards Sorong. There are so many bases to defend, it is an impossible task for the Japanese. So I consider it important to take Darwin and hold it as long as possible, as the Japanese.

Since my troops did not have enough supply after their first attack at Darwin, I had to run the gauntlet of enemy CD guns again. And they were tough. Here's the damage just today:

BB Kongo SYS 30
CA Ashigara SYS 28
DD Arare SYS 56/FLOT 70-35/ENG 0/FIRE 2
An xAK sunk
xAK Ikushima Maru SYS 36/FLOT 30-19/ENG 0/FIRE 37 (flip of the coin on survival)
xAK Kasuga Maru SYS 18/FLOT 0/ENG 1/FIRE 6
xAK Natisan Maru SYS 38/FLOT 10-8/ENG 9/FIRE 53 (going to burn up)


Some troops unloaded, as did supply, but there's still both on ships. But no more unloading, at least not until the base is captured. The bad news is that one Japanese division is just barely short of needed supply. No matter. We're attacking. I will airdrop supply from Timor, but the odds of that supply getting to the right division is low. The rest of the units have adequate supply. Just the one division is barely short.

Now for the critical battle at Tuyun.

Ground combat at Tuyun (74,51)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 54603 troops, 586 guns, 521 vehicles, Assault Value = 1610

Defending force 65786 troops, 323 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2001

Japanese adjusted assault: 2239

Allied adjusted defense: 1186

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3701 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 273 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 46 disabled
Engineers: 20 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 27 (1 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1620 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 152 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Assaulting units:
34th Division
3rd Division
58th Division
15th Ind Engineer Regiment [now trashed and heading south to regroup]
70th Division
2nd Tank Division
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
30th Field AA Machinecannon Company
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
16th Army
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
76th Chinese Corps
31st Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Corps
6th Chinese Corps
57th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
4th War Area
1st Group Army
34th Group Army


Just missed 2 to 1 odds! There must be so many enemy engineers at Tuyun. The forts rebuild instantly, and that's with inadequate supply there.

Here's what the enemy had at Tuyun 3 days ago.

31st Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Corps
6th Chinese Corps
57th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
1st Group Army
4th War Area
34th Group Army


So the 21st Chinese Corps reinforced in time for this battle, and we still almost took the base. That's actually good news. No more movement shown into Tuyun, so we have a couple of days to win this fight. Is it possible? I don't know. We are so close to both victory and failure.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/19/2021 4:00:10 PM   
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whew!! Do you have anything close enough and able to fast transport some supplies into Darwin?

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/19/2021 5:19:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

whew!! Do you have anything close enough and able to fast transport some supplies into Darwin?


I could use fast transport. But I want to avoid those CD guns, and the best way to avoid them is to eliminate them. I have a good chance of taking Darwin today. If I don't, I will probably need more supply to attack again, and then I'll have to move supply to Darwin again, one way or another.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/20/2021 8:16:02 PM   
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Supply dropped to troops at Tsuyung, but not enough to get them out of the red. No attack yet.

Massive Japanese bombing of Tuyun. We attack again.

Ground combat at Tuyun (74,51)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 50815 troops, 585 guns, 514 vehicles, Assault Value = 1308

Defending force 57571 troops, 286 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1714

Japanese adjusted assault: 1007

Allied adjusted defense: 1237

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2100 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 359 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 37 (1 destroyed, 36 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
832 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)


Very poor result. The attack cannot continue, and with such limited enemy losses and reinforcing troops nearby, this offensive isn't going to work. I order a couple of restricted divisions to stay at Tuyun. The rest will move south to recover. Unrestricted units will eventually move to the coast and move all over the Pacific for base defense. Some restricted units will rest and then move northeast for a new offensive towards Sian.

Congratulations to OPilot for his China defense. I threw just about everything at him and couldn't break the line south of the capital. I think he discovered something. I know that I did. He had a credible defense over-stacking bases where there was little to no supply. He had the negative modifier for supply, but that didn't matter. Maybe that's a credible strategy. If you know that you are out of supply, over-stack to your heart's content. Or at least to some degree. It seems that the penalty isn't much, if any, more than the supply malus. On the attack, however, I think there is a much bigger penalty for over-stacking.

Tuyun was so close! [EDIT: Yesterday] Japanese adjusted assault 2239 and Allied adjusted defense 1186. That close to a 2 to 1 victory and the capture of Tuyun. But it didn't happen, and now the war will be completely different.

Yamashiro and Fuso bombarded Darwin, doing good work. 826 casualties and moderate base damage. We attack:

Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28266 troops, 345 guns, 273 vehicles, Assault Value = 1109

Defending force 15170 troops, 234 guns, 179 vehicles, Assault Value = 262

Japanese adjusted assault: 1414

Allied adjusted defense: 343

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1730 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 125 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1567 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 50 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 32 (18 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Vehicles lost 21 (7 destroyed, 14 disabled)


This is a good result. We're close to taking Darwin. But now we are low on supply, again. And yes, that means the amphibious shipping will head back to Darwin and brave the CD guns for the third time. What a battle.




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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/22/2021 12:43:01 AM   
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I-156 sank PC Jumna near Madras. My subs have had good luck against patrol craft near Ceylon.

Zeros and Tojos sweep Kunming, and find about 48 Flying Tiger Warhawks. 34 Warhawks are downed for the loss of 15 Zeros and a Tojo. Not bad.

Tsuyung is bombed, both the airbase and enemy troops.

Japanese amphibious task force makes its third landing at Darwin. 2 more xAKs are badly damaged and burning. Vals and Kates bomb Allied troops at Darwin, doing good work, with 207 casualties.

And Darwin is attacked for the third time.

Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 31049 troops, 368 guns, 304 vehicles, Assault Value = 1003

Defending force 13577 troops, 219 guns, 170 vehicles, Assault Value = 216

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 830

Allied adjusted defense: 138

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Darwin !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
887 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
4581 casualties reported
Squads: 79 destroyed, 89 disabled
Non Combat: 226 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 78 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 142 (132 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 133 (130 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 13
Units destroyed 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
16th Division
65th Brigade
2nd Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
2nd Division
25th Army
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th RF Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
4th Australian Brigade
Sparrow Force
2nd Australian Brigade
131st Field Artillery Battalion
35th Avn Sup
Gull Force
24th Avn Sup
North Territory Cmd
A/B Hy Cst Arty
Darwin RAN Base Force
5th Base Group
147th Field Artillery Battalion
Asiatic Fleet
1st RAAF Base Wing
Darwin RAAF Base Force
Darwin Fortress


Success. 69,000 supply is noted at Darwin, and I had brought less than 5,000 of that. So lots of supply captured. 7,000 fuel captured also. Troops are disrupted but start chasing the enemy south. KB bombers will hit enemy troops, hoping to slow them down so that they can be attacked again before reaching bases south, where there will be forts waiting for them.

I need to get KB to the South Pacific as soon as possible.




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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/23/2021 3:39:07 PM   
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Japanese DMS's sweep all of the mines at Darwin. As sometimes happens, one of them swept the last mine by ramming. DMS W-9 was sunk.

KB bombers hit retreating Allied troops south of Darwin, causing 123 casualties and more importantly, slowing the retreat.

I did an artillery attack at Chihkiang, just to show some interest to the east of Tuyun. About equal forces there.

I attacked at Tsuyung, in the mountains northwest of Kunming. It went ok. The enemy has supply.

Ground combat at Tsuyung (68,46)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16054 troops, 160 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 510

Defending force 17565 troops, 75 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 439

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 852

Allied adjusted defense: 1252

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
449 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
216 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
14th Tank Regiment
55th Division
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Army
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
61st Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
22nd New Chinese Division
2nd Reserve Division
102nd RAF Base Force
NCAC
8th Group Army


Now I need to wait to get more supply to the troops there. Air transport will be used heavily. No attack until resupply. Another division is outside of Tsuyung, waiting to swap in if needed, and a tank division is preparing to leave Rangoon to come to Tsuyung, eventually. Long slow trail to get there.

I notice 5000 more enemy at Norfolk than before, so the big task forces there were unloading troops. I gave up on Norfolk long ago. I would have taken it if it was less defended awhile ago. The Japanese advances have slowed and there won't be any other big invasions.

My overall defensive strategy is based on the fact that the US can go anywhere it wants to if it brings enough divisions to do so. KB can interfere for the next year or so. So, loading up bases with more than a division will just invite the enemy to bypass. What I want to try is to minimally defend places that can be reinforced or countered quickly. That way the enemy won't land in overwhelming strength, just enough to take the objective, allowing me to counter and defeat the invaders. This is the general plan for bases that aren't isolated islands. They will have to be defended to the stacking limit, if I choose.

Other notes: the fires on the two xAKs at Darwin were completely extinguished in port. KB is leaving Darwin to head towards Sorong. It will take on fuel from AOs and head either towards Truk or Rabaul.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/23/2021 8:37:42 PM   
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250 turns into the game. And I'm starting to feel that feeling that all Japanese players feel, when there are the first signs that the tide is beginning to turn. Time to start changing my mindset and preparing for the inevitable.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/24/2021 1:01:59 AM   
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Japanese troops landed at an unoccupied Boela. I've waited to land here. When I took Babo, B-17s promptly destroyed all of the oil. Now that Darwin is captured, Boela should be safe from bombing.

OPilot made a big effort to bomb Magwe. He went for the oil this time. I was ready, having moved Zeros and Nicks in, but was overwhelmed.

16 Hurricanes swept, finding 25 Zeros and 40 Nicks. The Hurricanes did well, being higher than the Nicks, but lower than the Zeros.
17 Hurricanes swept at 37900 feet, higher than all Japanese fighters.
16 Blens and 3 B-24Ds attacked. Some were shot down but oil was hit.
25 Wellingtons attacked, some were lost, and one oil was destroyed.
16 more Hurricanes swept at 31900 feet.
12 B-25s attacked, some were downed.
7 B-24Ds attacked, some were damaged. Some oil was hit.
15 more Hurricanes swept at 33900 feet.

Total air losses were 13 Nicks and 6 Zeros while downing 11 Wellingtons, 9 Hurricanes, 5 B-25s and 5 Blens. It was costly for both sides, but the enemy did destroy 43 of the 300 oil at Magwe. It is obvious that the oil will not be protected completely and it will be destroyed over time, even if defended. With the enemy holding Akyab and Cox's Bazar, Magwe is within Hurricane reach. I'll do what I can to make it costly but the oil is just temporary, at this point.

Did heavy bombing of Tsuyung. The Japanese troops there now have supply and will attack.

South of Darwin, we caught up to the fleeing enemy. If they are still there at the end of this turn, we'll attack.

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What's Magwe fort level and how much AA is there? Any of that helping??

You going to look at trying to secure Akyab? As your right, as long as Magwe is in Allied fighter range, its going to be tough.

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What's Magwe fort level and how much AA is there? Any of that helping??

You going to look at trying to secure Akyab? As your right, as long as Magwe is in Allied fighter range, its going to be tough.


Not sure about the fort level at Magwe. I'd guess a 3. There are multiple AA units. I'll take another look at them.

No chance of going for Akyab. It's built big and so is Cox's Bazar and Chittagong is huge. Other huge bases between there and Ledo. I'm not going to clear the skies there. I plan on trying to keep what I have for as long as possible.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 9/24/2021 10:02:10 PM   
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Dutch sub KXII hit light cruiser Natori with a torpedo near Boela. Natori is with KB. Carriers not spotted but a CS was. Natori isn't badly damaged, with SYS 10/FLOT 10-8/ENG 0/FIRE 0 and will not slow down the carriers. KB will rendezvous with 3 AOs east of Koepang and then head to Truk to replace lost planes and top off the tanks. I'll then decide whether to head towards the Marshalls or the South Pacific. Right now, south seems the right choice. Enemy troops landed at Baker Island in the past couple of days. Baker was always Allied, but unoccupied. I had a sub there, which spotted 3 xAPs. Bettys from Tarawa didn't attack. Bad weather and a small airbase at Tarawa. US carriers have had time to get to the Marshalls, and I haven't seen anything. They could be near Suva or New Zealand by now.

Japanese bombers hit Tsuyung heavily in moderate rain. Good base damage and damage to the troops. The fight at Tsuyung looks promising.

Ground combat at Tsuyung (68,46)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15706 troops, 160 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 476

Defending force 17368 troops, 73 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 415

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 1340

Allied adjusted defense: 628

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
278 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled

Allied ground losses:
510 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
14th Tank Regiment
55th Division
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Army
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
43rd Chinese Corps
22nd New Chinese Division
61st Chinese Corps
2nd Reserve Division
102nd RAF Base Force
NCAC
8th Group Army


Again we have to resupply before attacking at Tsuyung. Lots of transports dropping supply.

The Japanese stack destroyed the A/B Hy Cst Arty unit south of Darwin. All of the other enemy units escaped to the next hex south. We chase.

An empty Boela is captured by the Yokosuka 4th SNLF. The oil is partially damaged. Depending on what bombers OPilot could use, he could hit Boela from Katherine to further destroy the oil. KB is nearby, and I considered moving it adjacent to Boela to protect it, but I decided that it is more needed in the South Pacific.

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I-18 spots New Mexico and Idaho near Funafuti. 2 torpedoes missed destroyer Lang. Trouble spotted. I-18 then attacked again, still at night.

Sub attack near Funafuti at 135,150

Japanese Ships
SS I-18, hits 1

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Chicago
CA Indianapolis
DD Dunlap
DD Balch
DD Fanning
DD Ellet
DD Benham

Ammo storage explosion on CV Enterprise
SS I-18 launches 8 torpedoes at CV Enterprise


OPilot lost Yorktown earlier in the war with similar damage and ammo storage explosion. I moved subs to intercept Enterprise if it survives and heads to one of several bases in the area. Subs also moved to approach routes to Luganville and Ndeni.

Japanese troops at Tsuyung now have supply, so another attack is ordered. I expect it to go well, judging from the previous attack.




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British battleships Valiant, Prince of Wales and battlecruiser Repulse bombarded Cocos Island, doing minor damage. British carrier or carriers supported from one hex west of Cocos Island. 26 Albacores bombed the tiny 4th JNAF Coy at Cocos, the only ground unit there. No invasion occurred. Just a raid of opportunity? Not sure yet. And where will the enemy task forces retire to? They could go back to Ceylon, or they could go to Australia. I do want to know the answer to that. A sub is moving to a point 2 days south of Cocos for a possible intercept, should the enemy go that way. Mini-KB will reform at Batavia today. If there is no enemy invasion at Cocos, the task forces will be long gone by the time mini-KB can get there.

And hey, we took Tsuyung! Wasn't sure that was going to happen in the mountain terrain and with enemy forts.

Ground combat at Tsuyung (68,46)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15530 troops, 160 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 455

Defending force 16913 troops, 70 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 370

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 876

Allied adjusted defense: 406

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tsuyung !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
197 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3330 casualties reported
Squads: 124 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 217 destroyed, 70 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 25 (22 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 7


All units head towards Kunming, chasing the retreated enemy. They switch their target to Kunming, as does the Southern HQ which is supporting from Lashio. Bombers will hit the retreating enemy troops in order to slow them down and allow another ground attack on them before they can get to the forts at Kunming.

I note more enemy fighters at Norfolk Island than usual, up to 67. Two big enemy task forces are there, one of which is a big cruiser force.




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6 Japanese cruisers bombard Akyab. 535 casualties and moderate base damage. No fighters damaged. OPilot saw me coming. Just a nuisance raid with the British carriers down by Cocos Island.

Bombed defeated Chinese troops between Tsuyung and Kunming. The enemy is moving to Kunming, and I'm slowing them down in the hopes of attacking them. This won't work, as I now see movement out of Kunming into this hex, so fresh enemy units on the way. Kunming seen with 35000 men while the stacking limit there is 25000.

Flying Tigers reappeared at Kunming. 12 Sallys and 12 Oscars attacked and found 68 Warhawks. The Oscars somehow held the fighters off of the bombers, but 8 Oscars were lost. The Sallys managed to do minor damage to the airbase. Tojos swept Kunming afterwards, against far more enemy planes. Total air losses there were 12 Warhawks and 6 Tojos.

The enemy's 1st Somerset LI Battalion invaded and captured Cocos Islands, destroying the tiny 4th JNAF Coy and destroying 5 Jakes. Mini-KB is leaving Batavia today for Cocos. I doubt that enemy ships will still be around. If they are gone, battleships will break off of the task force and bombard Cocos. A brigade in China will start to prep for Cocos, as does a tank regiment in Tokyo. I will not allow Cocos to build up and I will recapture it, eventually.

A task force that I believe has the damaged Enterprise in it moved just 3 hexes to the southeast, heading towards Wallis Island. 3 subs hope to intercept. I think that the rest of the armada is now at Pago Pago. KB is approaching Rabaul.

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One hex to the northeast of Norfolk Island, RO-34 fired torpedoes at destroyer Stuart but missed. Cruisers Canberra, Australia and Hobart and 3 other destroyers were spotted. Not an ASW TF. Nothing approached Noumea, so I'm guessing the OPilot exited Norfolk to the northeast in order to avoid subs to the south. Don't know what else they'd be doing going that way just one hex. Unless they are on the way to Noumea and are just hidden by weather today.

The task force suspected to have damaged carrier Enterprise in it moved 3 hexes today but didn't go to Wallis Island. It's headed towards Savaii or Pago Pago. Japanese subs are forming a line to intercept.

I had mentioned that I had moved a sub 2 days steaming south of Cocos Island. I wanted to know if the British carriers and battleships were headed to Australia or back to Ceylon. The sub spotted a task force in the expected area on the expected day, but only saw 3 ships, 2 of which were AMs. So, nothing definite, but I'd say that all of the ships are here and heading to Australia. The AMs are probably the escorting ASW TF.




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Interesting turn.

I-175 missed destroyer Arunta with 2 torpedoes south of Noumea. The enemy then bombarded Noumea.

Night Naval bombardment of Noumea at 115,160

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 27 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
C5M2 Babs: 2 damaged
C5M2 Babs: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
CA Canberra
CA Australia
CL Hobart
CL Perth
DD Norman
DD Nizam
DD Napier
DD Nestor
DD Arunta
DD Stuart

Japanese ground losses:
868 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 78 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (3 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Airbase hits 44
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 99


That's a nuclear bombardment for just some cruisers. I spotted this TF one hex northeast of Norfolk yesterday, during the night. But then they weren't spotted during the day. I should have gone with my first thoughts and known that they were coming to Noumea. As I said yesterday, what else could they have been doing? My bigger cruiser TF arrived at Noumea from Luganville, but during the daylight, after the damage was done. B-17s added more damage to the airfield as the Zeros didn't fly.

Just northwest of Kunming, OPilot reinforced the hex with fresh Chinese troops, and despite having a supply penalty, easily held the hex. I'll try to wear them down but it's so difficult in the mountains.

Ground combat at 68,47 (near Kunming)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15494 troops, 160 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 453

Defending force 29015 troops, 112 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 742

Japanese adjusted assault: 302

Allied adjusted defense: 1645

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1094 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 63 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled

Allied ground losses:
323 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Near Pago Pago, my subs didn't spot the US carriers, but they did spot battleships Idaho and New Mexico, and I-16 got a torpedo hit on Idaho. That'll be some yard time. Based on mouse-over spotting reports, all enemy ships will get to Pago Pago today, so I have one more chance to finish Enterprise, and I flood the last few hexes on the way.

Turned out the British were still at Cocos Island. See the graphic for the details. I did neglect to say that Illustrious had a reported fuel storage explosion, but the damage noted doesn't seem to back that up. Enemy torpedo bomber strikes on my carriers were unescorted and no torpedoes were dropped. Some bombers turned back. The others were downed.




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I-25 missed DD Fanning with 2 torpedoes near Pago Pago. BB North Carolina spotted. Probably a carrier TF.

I-1 hit Wasp with a torpedo west of Pago Pago. The sub then missed DD Lang with 2 torpedoes. BB New Mexico spotted. I-1 would be hit by a depth charge and finished off with air ASW later in the day.

I-22 spotted 5 AOs at Pago Pago. The sub was hit by a depth charge and is SYS 27/FLOT 40-13/ENG 12-8/FIRE 0.

19 P-40Es swept Lashio, finding 16 Tojos and 23 Nicks. 11 Warhawks shot down, at the cost of 6 Nicks and 4 Tojos. B-25s attacked and 6 were shot down. Some planes were damaged on the ground.

Over 30 B-17Es bombed Noumea from Suva, running into 24 Zeros on LRCAP from La Foa. 3 B-17s were shot down and base damage was minor.

Bettys bombed Cocos Islands' airbase, causing moderate damage and hitting some Sea Hurricanes there.

Albacores attacked Japanese ships near Cocos Islands, and all 12 of them were shot down before dropping torpedoes. In the afternoon, 9 Kates attacked the British BB TF near Cocos. BC Repulse, BB Valiant and CL Danae were targeted, but all torpedoes missed. No torpedoes left on the Japanese carriers.

18 Kates attacked the same British TF, but these Kates had no torpedoes. 2 bombs hit Valiant and 2 bombs hit Prince of Wales, but all did not penetrate. A radar was reportedly destroyed.




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Japanese BB TF reacted to the west and engaged a task force with just one carrier in it, Formidable. Formidable hadn't been damaged so far. The fight was not very long. Formidable took one small caliber shell from Yamashiro, and hit Yamashiro with 2 shells of her own! Crazy. Lots of torpedoes were fired on both sides, with no hits.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Cocos Islands at 29,99, Range 11,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Walrus II: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 3
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 2
CA Maya
CL Kinu, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Tama, Shell hits 1
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Yukikaze
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Shigure
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
CV Formidable, Shell hits 1
CA Dorsetshire, Shell hits 2
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 1
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
DD Scout
DD Arrow, Shell hits 1
DD Decoy
DD Electra
DD Encounter
DD Express


Still at night, in the same hex, Japanese ships ran into the British BB TF, which was low on ammo as it had bombarded Cocos Island a few days ago. Japanese ships had used some ammo in the first fight, but not a lot. Lots more torpedoes fired on both sides. The only hit was a torpedo fired by a Brit cruiser, and that hit may not have really happened, judging by the lack of damage.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Cocos Islands at 29,99, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 12 [SYS 19/FLOT 4-0/ENG 2-0/FIRE 0]
CA Maya, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1 [SYS damage less than 10]
CL Kinu, on fire [SYS 10/FLOT 9-7/ENG 4-0/FIRE 0]
CL Tama
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Yukikaze
DD Shiratsuyu, Shell hits 2, on fire [SYS 34/FLOT 10-3/ENG 5-0/FIRE 0]
DD Shigure
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi, Shell hits 1
DD Samidare
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
BB Valiant, Shell hits 14, heavy fires [took many big gun hits]
BC Repulse, Shell hits 2
CL Danae, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
CL Durban
DD Griffin, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hotspur, Shell hits 1
DD Inconstant
DD Isis, Shell hits 1


Oscars swept Kunming and found that the Flying Tigers were back again. The Oscars did unusually well versus many more Warhawks. Kunming's airfield is damaged. 14 Warhawks were shot down, for the cost of 13 Oscars.

Way, way up in northern China, the 15th Tank Regiment and the 2nd Ind. Mixed Brigade defeated the 9th Separate Brigade, pushing it west into Kiuchan. Japanese forces will move in an try to capture the base. Air transports continue to drop supply to the Japanese troops.

Between Tsuyung and Kunming, we attack again. Bad odds but decent results.

Ground combat at 68,47 (near Kunming)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14825 troops, 160 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 388

Defending force 25473 troops, 112 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 726

Japanese adjusted assault: 267

Allied adjusted defense: 1069

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
640 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 51 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 38 (1 destroyed, 37 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
506 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
14th Tank Regiment
55th Division
15th Army
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
43rd Chinese Corps
61st Chinese Corps
64th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
2nd Reserve Division
8th Group Army
102nd RAF Base Force
22nd Group Army


Attacks will continue when the troops have supply. The 55th Division will exhaust itself and then be replaced by another division waiting at Tsuyung.




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I-173 sank tiny CMc Soemenep near Horn Island. Mining at work. Another CMc spotted.

4 US destroyers bombarded Adak Island. Second time in a week. Minor damage done but a couple of guns were destroyed. I'm not interested in committing much to the Aleutians. B-26s then bombed Adak.

53 Sallys with 39 Oscars attacked Kunming, and found 30 P-40Es. Some Oscars and Sallys lost. Light airbase damage done in severe storms. Tojos swept afterwards. Total air losses were 9 Oscars, 4 Tojos and 4 Sallys while downing 8 P-40Es.

Dutch sub KVIII sank tiny AMc Hakata Maru #6 outside of Rangoon. The sweeper was keeping the approach to Rangoon and the shallows to the west clear of mines.

A Japanese division and 2 artillery regiments bombarded Bandoeng, just to remind myself how much the Dutch still have there. It's a huge stack, and despite it being August 1942, Bandoeng still has supply. I bomb it every day, but it still has supply. I definitely won't attack at Bandoeng until the Dutch are out of supply, but I may not ever attack. I wonder just how high the fort level is. And the mountain terrain. For now, we keep bombing and keep the enemy isolated. I do think that leaving the Dutch there will be an incentive for OPilot to make a landing on Java, to rescue the Dutch. I know that it would cross my mind. I hope to prepare for this possibility.

Japanese river crossing into Katherine in Australia.

Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 28992 troops, 349 guns, 174 vehicles, Assault Value = 875

Defending force 11091 troops, 150 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 192

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 277

Allied adjusted defense: 214

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1387 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 75 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1238 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 29 (10 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
16th Division
2nd Division
5th RF Gun Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
2/2nd Ind Coy
Sparrow Force
4th Australian Brigade
Gull Force
2nd Australian Brigade
19th Australian Battalion
5th Base Group
Katherine RAAF Base Force
131st Field Artillery Battalion
Darwin RAAF Base Force
North Territory Cmd
24th Avn Sup
10th RAAF Base Wing


Our next attack will be after a bit of rest, to bring the disruption levels down.

The picket line set up west of Sabang has spotted enemy ships fleeing north, sooner that I had expected.




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Lots of P-40Es on the ground at Kunming, and not flying. Many Japanese bombers hit today and damaged scores of them, destroying 4. The base is showing 78 damage. There's no rail out either, so my bombers will keep pounding the base and destroying the Warhawks.

Just northwest of Kunming, our attack goes well, but not enough to take the hex. There's over 50k troops at Kunming now, and its stacking limit is just 25k. Movement is shown out of Kunming into our contested hex, so the fight there won't be won immediately. Have to wait for resupply now.

Japanese cruiser force still in a blocking position between the British carrier TF and Ceylon. I want a battle. The enemy ships are low or out of ammo.




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I-24 sank tiny YO Y-6 near Funafuti. Funafuti is a forward unbuilt Allied base, and probably has float planes.

Dutch sub KVIII sank PB Shinko Maru #1 in the shallows west of Rangoon.

Japanese forces captured Katherine, causing 5425 casualties with a huge number of destroyed squads and devices. We continue the chase south.

And now for the big fight in the Indian Ocean.




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And note that the Japanese have 3 damaged cruisers and 4 damaged destroyers now heading to Singapore. Damage is not severe (beyond the 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers sunk). The worst SYS damage is 32 and the worst FLOT damage 23.

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Exciting turns! You are having better submarine luck than me. Enterprise is likely gone. Maybe not the tougher Brit CV. I have always found the old Brit BBs to be fairly effective in a gun fight but torpedo magnets. That may be a function of their experience and their slow speed. You may have a great window of opportunity opening before the '43 influx of US CVs.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 10/7/2021 10:09:08 PM   
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Exciting turns! You are having better submarine luck than me. Enterprise is likely gone. Maybe not the tougher Brit CV. I have always found the old Brit BBs to be fairly effective in a gun fight but torpedo magnets. That may be a function of their experience and their slow speed. You may have a great window of opportunity opening before the '43 influx of US CVs.


I have had good luck with the Japanese subs. They've sunk Yorktown and probably Enterprise. They put one torpedo into Wasp recently. They almost certainly sank a British battleship yesterday. They hit Idaho with a torpedo recently. And the Brit carrier is unknown.

I do think that OPilot had his first major operation underway east of Luganville last week, until Enterprise was torpedoed. I think he will be more cautious with fewer carriers available. For awhile.

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