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"The Libyan War, 1986" (Submitted) - 12/31/2020 6:34:11 PM   
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Tweaked file below...

This is a might have been scenario, instead of the United States independently launching "Operation Eldorado Canyon" the United States and France decide on a joint operation to degrade the Libyan military and infrastructure. A couple of things...

1. Please read the description and side briefing. They really do explain a lot of how this mission is structured.
2. There is a emphasis in planning and putting your forces into position for their strikes. There is a 24 hour period for you to choose loadouts and position your vessels.
3. The scenario uses SUSTAINED air operations, some units can surge but most are sustained, so you may want to spread out your air assets to keep the pressure up, rather than launch one large, massive initial strike (I did that in one play test and it is slightly unmanageable, but your choice commander).
4. I have set up some aircraft loadouts where the ready times are 1 day, 20 hours (B-52hs, F-117), AEW/Elint, Tanker, ASW aircraft and some CVBG fighters/multirole aircraft.
5. There are four (4) F-117 aircraft in Cyprus, please don't change that. During Operation Eldorado Canyon four were dispatched to Shaw AFB, for use in the attack, but Casper Weinberger withdrew them. So four looks like the number the Reagan Administration was willing to commit and thus a deliberate design decision (I know they are fun to use!).
6. The American OOB is an extension of units that were in Operation Attain Document, Operation Eldorado Canyon, 2nd Marine Air Wing (MAW) and 9th Tactical Air Force which split its role between reinforcing Europe and supporting Central Command.
7. Likewise the French OOB represents French Air Forces and naval forces in southern France forward deployed to Corsica.
8. There are no bases near Libya, except NAS Souda Bay, Crete/Greece and thus you will need to use tankers, you have about nine (9) squadrons of tankers to support the operations (thus the emphasis on sustained air ops!).
9. UK/RAF bases used are an extension on what was actually used (RAF Akrotiri was an alternative site which was used by one aircraft). The only base added was RAF Greenham Common for he B-52Hs.

So this scenario isn't for everyone, but if you take it on be prepared to plan for the long haul!

EDIT: On the F-117A's I got my research facts mixed up (Oldsheimers)...

"Beirut 1983
During October 1983, the US government ordered the Department of Defense to plan an attack on the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and PLO sympathizers/terrorists in Southern Lebanon in response to the destruction of the US Marine barracks at Beirut Airport. The Seventh Fleet in the Mediterranean was moved into position off the coast of Lebanon and the 4450th at Tonopah TTR was put on alert. Five to seven F-117A aircraft were armed and their Internal Navigation Systems aligned to targets in the area.[3]

The plan called for the F-117As to fly from Tonopah TTR to Myrtle Beach AFB, South Carolina, where they would be put in hangars. They would wait 48 hours for the crew to rest and then fly the aircraft non-stop from Myrtle Beach to southern Lebanon. The attack was planned against positively identified locations of the terrorist groups that were known to be responsible for the car bomb and the deaths of 183 Marines of the peace keeping force in Beirut.[3]

Caspar Weinberger, the Secretary of Defense, decided to scrub the mission just 45 minutes before the aircraft were to take off for Myrtle Beach. The F-117As were taken off alert, disarmed and had their INS systems reprogrammed for training purposes.
[3]"

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 12/31/2020 10:11:12 PM   
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And so it begins, Three carriers and five land based strikes are in position
(with follow on strikes at the bases in Corsica)...




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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 12/31/2020 10:28:49 PM   
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You know, I think this may be the first scenario I have seen that actually uses sustained operations.

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/1/2021 12:15:16 AM   
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Not going as well as I had hoped. Also going to change Soviets and France-US to be neutral toward each other in future versions.




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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/1/2021 1:40:11 AM   
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Tweaked 01/02/2021 below

In my New Year's Eve playtest I had the Soviets go "Hostile" on me (for the first time in three play tests). So to avoid that I changed the postures between the Soviet Union and France-US to "Neutral" for each side. Also turned off collective responsibility for the USSR and adjusted the scoring a bit. I was at -6,100 VPs in this playtest because of sinking three Soviet ships and a TU-142 (as well as, starting WWIII!), So hopefully these changes keep the USSR from Jumping in. If things had gone as planned the initial strike should have been +1400 VPs.

Two previous play tests were +6,000 VPs when I was done. So adjusted a Triumph to be +6,000 and Disaster to be -6,000.

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/1/2021 2:23:46 PM   
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Not a tweak, but I will be removing the F-117A's from the scenario.

1. They really don't make that much of a difference. I tried using them against the SA-5s with mixed results to be honest. To really use them you need about a dozen.
2. Thinking about the Reagan Administration/Casper Weinberger's actions with the Beirut retaliation (1983) and Operation Eldorado Canyon (1986) it is highly unlikely they would have forward deployed four (4) of them to Cypress, even for an operation this big.
3. I don't want to deploy anything from the CONUS, it is complex/big enough as it stands!

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/1/2021 2:59:58 PM   
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I just finished playing the version from Dec 24, so here's how it went for me.

Opening Phases

The carrier groups are given orders to hurry into position. America, Coral Sea, and Clemenceau will patrol in the mouth of the Ionian Sea, between Sicily and the Peleponnese, and they should be able to get there before hostilities start. The Saratoga, over near southern Spain, will hurry east, and probably will be just reaching western Sicily when operations begin. The carriers have supply ships in attendance nearby, and I'm a little nervous about them. Do I detach units to cover them? It would be a shame if they bumped into a wandering Libyan Foxtrot. A nice little dilemma. I decide to send them to Toulon, Gaeta, and the Greek Islands to hide for the duration.

Operations begin, and there are Russians all over the place - a Slava group off Crete, a Krivak, a Charlie and an old Whiskey shadowing the America, and another Krivak in the Sicily Strait in the path of the Coral Sea. I hope the Slava group stays in the vicinity of Crete. She could be problematic if she decides to shadow a carrier. The Charlie is also a concern, and the USS Providence is ordered to tail her in case things get messy.

The SR-71 runs along the Libyan coast hampered by clouds, and provides little useful data, but ELINT planes pick up a concentration of Spoon Rest radars in the west in the Tripoli / Al-Watiyah area, and a few more in the east from Benghazi to Tobruk. I had high hopes for the U-2 radar, given the clouds, but it doesn't see anything new either. So strategic recce turns out to be mostly a bust. It does, however, get a nice look at the Libyan Navy, which has a whole bunch of small patrol boats and frigates underway.

Shortly after 5:00 AM on the 14th, we start seeing signs of Libyan air activity. SSN Providence continues to shadow the Charlie, Sirene keeps heading for Benghazi, Ouessant keeps trying to get into position on the Vosper, which is south of Malta, and Jacksonville is in the baffles of a Libyan Foxtrot. Carrier groups are moving into position, but the America, Coral Sea, and Clemenceau have all had visits from Mays flying out of Syria. Happily, the Slava seems to be turning back east again.

By the end of the day, Sirene is off Benghazi, but RF-4 overflights show all the important warships are gone. Ouessant is still trying to get into position on the Vosper, which has spotted her at least once, and Rubis is closing on Tripoli. Jacksonville and Providence are still on the tail of their subs. The Slava's being a pest in mid-ocean, half-way between Greece and Libya. My three eastern carriers are getting repeated visits from Mays and Bears, so the enemy knows exactly where we are, and the Kashin's cruising up quietly to have a look. It should reach the carriers just in time to watch the strikes. I think only the Saratoga, just coming through the Sicily/Tunisia gap, is still undetected.


Attack!

The subs are the first to shoot. Jacksonville executes the helpless Foxtrot, Rubis kills two Sharara's anchored off Tripoli, and Sea Devil steals Ouessant's kill by sinking the Vosper. General air-to-air fighting breaks out along the coast, and planes from the Coral Sea and Clemenceau make Harpoon and Exocet attacks on Libyan patrol boats.

I have divided my strikes into two phases. The night strike, by F-111s supported by ARM-carrying A-7s from the Saratoga and a few ARM-carrying Mirages from Corsica, will fall on Tripoli immediately after midnight. The remaining strikes, which have a large component of planes without night vision, will happen shortly after dawn.

The Tripoli attack goes well, and the F-111s shut the runways with LGBs, sprinkle the parking areas with cluster bombs, blast the nearest SAM sites with iron bombs, and mess up the port facilities. They also completely flatten the nearby barracks and manage to destroy the bunker, which brings the surprising message that Kaddafi is dead! So much for the deal with the Russians that we wouldn't aim for a regime change... (At this point I think the remainder of the operation would realistically be called off. The consequences of ordering attacks on Americans have been pretty clearly demonstrated, and the diplomatic fallout is already going to be severe.)


Libyan Counterattack

The Libyans get their own attack underway even before the Tripoli strike is complete, gunning for my carriers in the Ionian sea. Two big raids launch in the east, coming in from El Beida and Nasser, followed by another in the center from the direction of Al Jufra. I have allocated half my fighters to the night phase, and reserved the other half for the day phase, and I don't want to use them yet. However, the night-phase fighters have already used up some of their missiles fighting the Libyan CAP. Do they have enough capability to take down these strikes?

Fortunately, the Harpoon-carrying F-18s have just finished making their attacks in the east, and these versatile fighters are added to the defense, bringing much-needed extra missiles. Together with my existing patrols, they are enough to turn back the eastern attacks. This doesn't leave a lot for the attack in the center, so Clemencea launches its last F-8s, and these turn out to be enough to stiffen the defenses and defeat what turns out to be heavyweight Blinders. Clemenceau is out of fighters for the rest of the day now, but Coral Sea and America still have half their fighters ready for use, so we should be all right.


Pre-Dawn

Skirmishing continues along the coast as the F-111s retire to safety. The Sirene, patrolling near Benghazi, nearly flattens her battery as she rushes to cut off and sink a pair of Osas, and then repeats the process with a pair of Sharara frigates. She's spending a lot of time at periscope depth, getting position updates and running her diesels, but fortunately the Libyans don't have effective ASW capabilities.

Meanwhile, the Providence, which is still shadowing the Charlie, gets a CZ contact on an SS. She doesn't want to leave the Charlie, so she sticks up a mast and calls some ASW aircraft from the carriers, which ID the contact as another Foxtrot and sink it.

Then there's another sub contact, but this one's north of my carriers, only 15 miles away in the Ionian sea. That gets an immediate response, and an Alize rushes to the area and drops some passive buoys to ID it. It turns out to be a Victor, another Russian snooper. Fortunately it's headed away from us, but it gets its own escort of French aircraft to monitor it anyway.

The French also keep chipping away at the radars near Tripoli, sending pairs of ARM-carrying Mirages down at the extreme limits of their range, and gradually killing off the Spoon Rest radars in the region.


Dawn Attack

The second wave of attacks arrives after dawn. Planes from Israel and Crete shut the runways at Nasser, Al Bumbah and El Beida, wreck port facilities at Bardiyah and Tobruk, and hit many of the surrounding SAMs. A-10s also get their kicks sinking the remaining ships in the area with a barrage of Mavericks. Planes from America and Coral sea deal with the airbase, port, and barracks complex near Benghazi, while planes from Saratoga (supported by ARM-carrying Jaguars) shut the airbase at Misurata. The Libyans don't seem to have any fighters to oppose us, so once the SA-3s are dealt with, they have little effective defense.


End

After these strikes, there's little the Libyans can do. They still have some ships operating in the Gulf of Sidra, and presumably some planes at the airbases further inland, but other then Sirte all the coastal airfields are shut. The remaining forces and coastal infrastructure can be picked apart at leisure. So I ended the game at this point.

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/1/2021 8:16:02 PM   
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Thanks for that review. I think this version is much improved from Dec 24th's

Glad you didn't have the Soviets jump in. Not sure why they did so in my last play test (and I'm going through it again right now) but think making them "Neutral" should avoid some of these problems. Also the Soviets Collective Responsibility is turned off, but think a USN unit started it last time and not sure how?

Anyway, it sounds like things went well. Thank you!!!

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/1/2021 8:52:28 PM   
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Actually, the Soviets did jump in, when their AGI spotted me firing on a friendly unit (the incoming Libyan strikes), causing one of the Krivaks to instantly open fire on a passing F-18 which was returning to the carrier. I manually corrected this, reset their posture, and resumed play. Then, half an hour later, the Greeks opened fire on the Russians, when a passing May wandered through their SAM zone. I manually corrected that too.

The trigger is that the Soviets are seeing someone attack a friendly side, and that sends them hostile regardless of what they previously considered the attacking side to be (neutral, unfriendly, etc.). Most of the time your event to reset the postures every second will catch this before they can shoot, but in some cases one will slip through.

The Greeks went hostile because the Soviets opened fire on an ally, but there wasn't an opportunity to shoot until later on, so their SAM attack was a delayed surprise. I think you will need to add the Greek side to the posture reset event.

More assorted observations later.

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/2/2021 7:33:17 AM   
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At the time of the strike, I saw a reference in a sensational magazine in France that they strike package flew through the Pyrenees mountains at low altitude, with the secret accord from French and Spanish governments.
I heard this again a few months ago in a podcast, but I never could confirm it.
Could something that big be hidden for so long?
They obviously had enough tankers to fly around the Iberia peninsula.

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/2/2021 1:52:23 PM   
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Will likely withdraw the Mirage IIIE and Mirage 5F aircraft, possibly replaced by two squadrons of Mirage 2000s due to the latter's lack of inflight refueling. The current situation is reminiscent of the Falkland's where the Argentinian Mirage IIIs had an on station time of five minutes! I've tried just about every variant on load outs with them and none really work well. They can nibble at the Libyan navy but that is about it.

Edit: Removed Mirage III/5Fs and added two squadrons of Mirage 2000Cs (they began deployment in 1984 so two squadrons is reasonable). As the Mirage 2000C is a fighter I did remove one (1) squadron of Mirage F.1Cs from Corsica. That leaves the French with four (4) Fighter and four (4) Jaguar Ground Attack Squadrons on Corsica. Didn't quite realize that the only French Air Force Ground Attack aircraft capable of hitting Libya with refueling are the Jaguars. This is why you play test! I learned something here, didn't realize the Mirage IIIs/5Fs were so range limited, although I do recall IAF complaints on that issue.

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/2/2021 1:54:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Francois5

At the time of the strike, I saw a reference in a sensational magazine in France that they strike package flew through the Pyrenees mountains at low altitude, with the secret accord from French and Spanish governments.
I heard this again a few months ago in a podcast, but I never could confirm it.
Could something that big be hidden for so long?
They obviously had enough tankers to fly around the Iberia peninsula.


I have no idea on this, Kushan is the guy to ask about Eldorado Canyon!

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/2/2021 1:57:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AndrewJ

Actually, the Soviets did jump in, when their AGI spotted me firing on a friendly unit (the incoming Libyan strikes), causing one of the Krivaks to instantly open fire on a passing F-18 which was returning to the carrier. I manually corrected this, reset their posture, and resumed play. Then, half an hour later, the Greeks opened fire on the Russians, when a passing May wandered through their SAM zone. I manually corrected that too.

The trigger is that the Soviets are seeing someone attack a friendly side, and that sends them hostile regardless of what they previously considered the attacking side to be (neutral, unfriendly, etc.). Most of the time your event to reset the postures every second will catch this before they can shoot, but in some cases one will slip through.

The Greeks went hostile because the Soviets opened fire on an ally, but there wasn't an opportunity to shoot until later on, so their SAM attack was a delayed surprise. I think you will need to add the Greek side to the posture reset event.

More assorted observations later.


Adding the Greeks is no problem, so far with the Soviets and FR-US "Neutral" things are working well in this play test round.

Edit: Greeks added to Lua scripting (both ways) and extended the No Navigation/Fly Zone further south from Crete.


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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/2/2021 9:09:31 PM   
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01/02/2021 Tweaks as mentioned above

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/4/2021 4:42:31 AM   
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i am going to check this out.....

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/12/2021 6:44:31 PM   
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Any thoughts on this before I post it?

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/15/2021 7:16:07 PM   
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You know, I think this may be the first scenario I have seen that actually uses sustained operations.


I'm hoping to give this one a play this weekend. Can someone refresh my memory as to what "sustained operations" are in CMO?

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/16/2021 12:49:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: stolypin


quote:

ORIGINAL: stww2

You know, I think this may be the first scenario I have seen that actually uses sustained operations.


I'm hoping to give this one a play this weekend. Can someone refresh my memory as to what "sustained operations" are in CMO?


So the main difference is your attack aircraft have a 20 hour turn around time rather than 6 hours. So instead of bring able to get off 2 strikes per day, you can only get off 1 per aircraft. Worse in this scenario due to long transit times and refueling considerations it's really more like one strike every 1 1/2 days. Your B-52s 1 day 20 hour turn around (so you can only use them twice in the scenario if it goes full timeframe, but more likely you will only use them once).

I have tried the massive first strike, and it just isn't doable as there is too much to keep up on. So I found staggered strikes are best. It keeps up the pressure and is more controllable.

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/16/2021 2:28:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

quote:

ORIGINAL: stolypin


quote:

ORIGINAL: stww2

You know, I think this may be the first scenario I have seen that actually uses sustained operations.


I'm hoping to give this one a play this weekend. Can someone refresh my memory as to what "sustained operations" are in CMO?


So the main difference is your attack aircraft have a 20 hour turn around time rather than 6 hours. So instead of bring able to get off 2 strikes per day, you can only get off 1 per aircraft. Worse in this scenario due to long transit times and refueling considerations it's really more like one strike every 1 1/2 days. Your B-52s 1 day 20 hour turn around (so you can only use them twice in the scenario if it goes full timeframe, but more likely you will only use them once).

I have tried the massive first strike, and it just isn't doable as there is too much to keep up on. So I found staggered strikes are best. It keeps up the pressure and is more controllable.


Thanks!

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/17/2021 10:44:16 PM   
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lybia shot down my u2 perty early an went red..... it is taking me days to make 20 hours to go by..... i have actually fallen asleep at my computer.... but i am not giving up.... now i can shoot down their airplanes.... and some of my sub are going into action.....

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/18/2021 10:47:24 AM   
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lybia shot down my u2 perty early an went red..... it is taking me days to make 20 hours to go by..... i have actually fallen asleep at my computer.... but i am not giving up.... now i can shoot down their airplanes.... and some of my sub are going into action.....


I know it’s big!

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/24/2021 11:14:09 PM   
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Without any further comment, I'm going to submit this one.

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"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem."
PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, 1985

I was Navy, but Assigned TAD to the 24th MAU Hq in Beirut. By far the finest period of my service!

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/26/2021 5:10:31 PM   
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I'm about halfway through this scenario and am thoroughly enjoying it (though I did re-start once, having made the classic mistake of not concentrating my forces on a particular region).

This is my favorite era (bringing back fond memories of playing the board game "Gulf Strike").

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 1/29/2021 8:53:05 PM   
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Glad you're enjoying it.

I actually used "Aegean Strike" as a refence for my Turkish-Greek scenarios.

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"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem."
PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, 1985

I was Navy, but Assigned TAD to the 24th MAU Hq in Beirut. By far the finest period of my service!

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RE: Play test: "The Libyan War, 1986" 12/31/2020 - 2/9/2021 3:28:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BeirutDude

Glad you're enjoying it.

I actually used "Aegean Strike" as a refence for my Turkish-Greek scenarios.


I played Aegean Strike too! 34 years ago!


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