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RE: Motorized units with no ferry cap. crossing blown b... - 10/17/2020 6:44:45 PM   
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Given the hoops one has to jump through to make these cases "work" in TOAW, I don't think the learning curve of a new game would be a problem.


Those "hoops" are no more than what you had to jump through to make that paper wargame work.

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No- I would suggest expansion that compliments the existing abilities. Or is volume based supply a dirty word?


You're talking about overseas supply, basically. Plenty would argue that that expansion is beyond TOAW's existing abilities - and they would be right ("ground warfare not amphibious warfare!"). But I'm not going to constrain TOAW to its "existing abilities". Note that we've already made some enhancements to naval warfare - essential to such supply - but many more abilities must be added to make it function. I'll just say that I can't discuss what is in development.

But, seeing as how you are a member of the Development Team, and therefore have been made privy to the Development Plan, that was a very strange complaint.

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RE: Motorized units with no ferry cap. crossing blown b... - 10/18/2020 10:51:26 AM   
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I honestly hadn't come across the the term "volume based supply" before, so thanks for the explanation. I do appreciate it.




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RE: Motorized units with no ferry cap. crossing blown b... - 10/18/2020 5:21:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

Given the hoops one has to jump through to make these cases "work" in TOAW, I don't think the learning curve of a new game would be a problem.


Those "hoops" are no more than what you had to jump through to make that paper wargame work.


I'm not making a paper wargame, though. If I were, why not get one of those engines which lets you move tiles around however you want and it's up to you to apply the rules?

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You're talking about overseas supply, basically.


No, I'm talking about multiple scenarios. Did you read my follow up post?

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But, seeing as how you are a member of the Development Team, and therefore have been made privy to the Development Plan, that was a very strange complaint.


You're assuming I've read the dev forum in the last five years...

... alright, I looked. Anyway, one can always hope for increased priority.

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RE: Motorized units with no ferry cap. crossing blown b... - 10/18/2020 10:58:24 PM   
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You're talking about overseas supply, basically.


No, I'm talking about multiple scenarios. Did you read my follow up post?


Why would we make discrete supply handling without the ability to include overseas supply? That would be the principle application. It has to cover that. And that means all sort of complications that have to be sorted out first.

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RE: Motorized units with no ferry cap. crossing blown b... - 10/19/2020 9:48:04 AM   
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Why would we make discrete supply handling without the ability to include overseas supply? That would be the principle application. It has to cover that. And that means all sort of complications that have to be sorted out first.


I'd say it's the most obvious application but not the principle one. For me, volume based supply would come in whenever a player wants to make a big offensive: they'll need to start stockpiling supply first since the logistical net can't bring supplies forward fast enough once things are in high gear.

It's not relevant for short campaigns which I admit are TOAW's sweet spot- but take a quick look at the AARs forum. Every second post is either D21 or FitE. These scenarios would be hugely enhanced by the ability to build up supplies prior to an offensive.

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