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Magicmissile (Axis)vs Battlevonwar (allied) - 9/13/2020 2:34:51 PM   
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I am fairly addicted to the game . I thought I had enough but now I want to try out the new patch so here we go again. Ill continue making AARs until someone tells me to stop .

Playing against Battlevonwar who I read in the forums have like 20 PBEMs under the belt more than I have so unless I screw up too much should be a close and nice game.

I have always just gone for a maximum buffed as super as I can make it Barbarossa. It has worked really well for me before. But with this patch with no Yugoslavs on your side it will be weaker than before so we will see what I want to do in this game. I have for a long time felt that the western allies build up a bit too fast and I know Alvaro says if you build subs it will be a lot harder for them to do so. Problem of course is for one that more subs = weaker Barbarossa and for 2 because Bismarck takes up so much of the shipyards its difficult to build subs because I also like to build some landing ships. But a more limited aimed Barbarossa and more resources to the Battle of the Atlantic could be an option to try something new and too see how it works out.

The Italians I find it hard to do something with but I am a bit inspired by Flaviusx defence of Italy in my game vs him and might try and do something similar.

Turn 1 as axis I do the same thing as always
Set replacements to 0. Invade Luxemburg. Prepare for Denmark turn 2 and the Netherlands turn 3. All the Italians on garrison mode. I dislike Poles running around behind my lines so I screen them off. This method probably not the best but usually Poland falls in 2 turns sometimes in 3 and that difference doesnt matter so much.




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RE: Magicmissile (Axis)vs Battlevonwar (allied) No Batt... - 9/13/2020 2:39:30 PM   
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Annoyingly Warsaw survives 3 attacks and so Poland will live until turn 3. I take out Denmark and I still invade to seal the deal even though I dont think many allies will try and sail into Copenhagen nowadays so it is probaly a bit wasted.

I start using HQs to start gather up the AA as I like to put it in cities where I have airplanes based in the west.




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RE: Magicmissile (Axis)vs Battlevonwar (allied) No Batt... - 9/13/2020 3:17:22 PM   
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I take out the Netherlands and Poland and that concludes the Blixtkrieg campaign of 39 with fairly low losses. As can be seen in the other AAR losses for Germany fairly similar but Battevonwar have done quite a bit better in the air.

One difference in our playstyles. I sent both the French and British airforce into the fight over the Netherlands and I wanted the French to die first and as few British as possible. Battlevonwar held back the French and let the British take the brunt of the fight and the losses.






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RE: Magicmissile (Axis)vs Battlevonwar (allied) No Batt... - 9/13/2020 3:19:34 PM   
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I set the whole German army into garrison mode and after 4 turns I have 3 pz corps on the way.

I continue collecting AA units. Otherwise not that much more happening now until the spring of 40 most likely.






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End of 39 - 9/15/2020 4:30:44 PM   
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End of 1939

39 ends and things are going soso. Of course nothing that decides the game but still . 1) I forgot turn of the Norway convoy cost me 9 merchants and 2) I sent out my subfleet in fleet mode which cost me 3 sub factors. Actually inflicted 6 so a "win" but really it is not. Battle also scored a lucky cv hit and escorts scored a good hit so in 39 lost 9 out of 15 subfactors. So not sure about my Battle of the Atlantic strategy now. It is not necessarily over but those losses hurts. But giving up on it and let the British build up for free doesnt feel good either. Have to think about what to do.

Otherwise just building up for the summer campaign. There were no cold weather in 39 but my army in garrison mode so Belgium was out of the question anyway.






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Syria - 9/16/2020 9:28:38 AM   
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Interesting. Might not be a bug but maybe not according to the spirit of the rule. Seems you can exchange the French units in Syria (and rest of North Africa too I guess) with British units and the French can move away.




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March 40 - 9/16/2020 9:41:10 AM   
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Got a cold turn and decided to go ahead. I really contemplated to wait until clear weather. For a couple of reasons. 1) Clear is obviously better than cold and 2) I only have 4 fighters at this time facing most likely 7 allied so the airwar can go pretty badly. I was a bit lucky I think not all allied air units were set on support so met not as much resistance in the air as expected and the land combats went really well , only needed one attack on Brussels. So conquest of Belgium achieved at fairly low losses Id say.

Looking on allied dispositions I see a whole lot of British units and a lot of units overall. Doesnt worry me that much as I think it is a bit too crowded and I see a lot of shatter results coming up for the French. Secondly I notice the Maginot line is held by divisions only. I think that is a little bit greedy. Divisions can be moved and since they dont excert ZOC you can get in a lot of attacks by shifting attacking units around. I think I will give it a try to get through there for sure.

Maybe I am too optimistic though we will have to see .




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April 12 1940 - 9/16/2020 12:09:17 PM   
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Lucky I didnt wait with Belgium as I got really lucky with 2 cold turns in a row. Dont think I ever had that before not sure what the odds are. Some corps still in garrison mode and units a bit tired after Belgium turn but manage to shatter 1 corps one of France best I think it had 7 strength and Antitank upgrade. The best part though was the breakthrough in the Maginot line. As expected a division cant hold off too many attacks and once through there was no ZOC stopping the advance so Metz fell and there as an icing on the cake were a British fighter so I got rid of that.

Very happy with the start but far from over. The British now have 10 units in France, crazy . Seriously make me consider an invasion of England but not sure what I can achieve. I guess I can grab a harbor and then what? Wont have much to send to England while fighting in France.




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May 40 - 9/17/2020 11:37:08 AM   
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Things progress nicely. Last turn of May shattered 5 corps including a British one. I think Paris could fall in 2 maybe 3 turns. But I am now thinking I dont know if I care so much about Paris it is more hunting season for British units if they can be eliminated without too much losses.

I am not supperhappy with the airwar. I have now a 2-1 advantage and I use supply trucks to keep fighters happy still loss ratio not all that good.




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June 40 - 9/18/2020 10:57:21 AM   
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Paris falls. I have so far shattered 3 British corps and one fighter overrun. I think I can catch at least one more corps.






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July 5 1940 - 9/18/2020 10:58:37 AM   
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The British run for the ports. I did get a 4th corps shattered. Campaign in France soon finished I hope

Forgot to take screenshot over the July 19 turn. the British got away. Had two transports I could try and sink but the whole of Luftwaffe barely managed to hit them and could not sink them.

End of July now only a canadian division in Bordeaux I guess they will leave soon.

Short reflection on the western campaign.

The breakthrough through the Maginot line made the whole campaign a whole lot easier. I got Metz for free which means I only needed Lille and Paris. The front got longer so the allied lines got more stretched. So I think only divisions is a no no. Possibly one division one corps alternatively but better is I think just keep 20 str corps.

Taking Paris on the last turn of June is probably as early as you can make it but I dont see any reason for Paris to fall more than 2 turns later so end July at the latest. Losses are where I usually land around 150 land and 80-120 so airlosses is in the higher range. Battlevonwar was really good at keeping the allied air flying. I guess he must have built some supplytrucks to make it so. An idea I will steal for the future .

The very big commitment of British, first I was a bit skeptical. There really is a lot of units in a small area and without the maginot breakthrough on a shorter front it would have been even more crowded. This will lead to a fair amount of shatters. But on the other side there are a lot of units to get through and they do cause casualties and if you don´t care about losses to the British this might well be the way to go. Losses for the British isnt that serious you will rebuild eventually. An invasion of the UK will make invasion of the Sovietunion weaker even if you are fairly succesfull in your invasion and that will be hard to pull off especially now with the arm corps nerf lowering their op from 4 to 2. So the British can I think be fairly safe even if they lose a lot in France and as long as they drag some Germans with them it might well be worth it.

In this game though because of how it played out the British if I recall correctly didnt make a single counterattack did not inflict very much losses the few times I attacked a British unit and they lost a fair amount of units so this was not the best example on how effective this strategy might be.

I also noted with regards to invade England if you use your paratroopers in France they will quite likely not be ready for an invasion of the UK. Depends of course on where you drop them but the huge effiency loss now makes recovery time very long. Possibly they wont be ready in time for the invasion.






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RE: July 5 1940 - 9/18/2020 11:00:51 AM   
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Italy decides it is time to join the fray. When I scan the map I almost missed the fact that Malta garrison had left the island. Orders were sent to the San Marco marines to invade which they promtly did.

Malta maybe not super important but I am very happy to get it basically for free.






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July 19 1940 - 9/18/2020 11:44:49 AM   
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July 1940

The action moves to the Mediterranean.

I am like the real life German dictator everything that distracts from the invasion of the Sovietunion annoys me .

So I have a conundrum. The British have lost a fair amount of units and lost a lot of airstrength. So if I build a few subs and keep pushing at the British I might delay the western allied buildup a bit but at a cost of more casualties and most likely a weaker invasion of the Sovietunion. What to do? In the end I decided to go after the British a bit. So I invaded Vichy Syria and will make an attempt to get to Egypt. I will also take out Greece I think as it will give me a VP and some Bulgarian units. Not sure what to do about Yugoslavia. I really havent done the math with VP hexes how many you need and so on so no idea if it is worth it or not. Anyone done some calculating on this?




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August 16 1940 - 9/19/2020 12:29:55 PM   
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Invasion of Egypt progresses nicely and it seems the UK will give it up without a fight. Mussolinis proud digital soldiers march into Cairo and Iraq will join the cause of the bad guys.






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August 30 1940 - 9/19/2020 12:34:57 PM   
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Egypt is conquered and the British are leaving. I garrison the ports in southern Iraq and buildup against Greece continues.




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September 40 - 9/19/2020 1:33:06 PM   
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With Iraq on Axis side seems Persia also joined the bad cause. Unfortunately I didnt get to Kuwait in time. So some Uk units there now. So they cant do much from a 2 point port but also how to invade the USSR from Persia with Uk units in your back. Also the Soviets are building up to attack Persia. I might be able to delay that alot with a German corps or 2 but I feel very stretched now so much to garrison so really not sure how long I can hold on to Persia and Iraq and do I even want too?




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October 25 1940 - 9/20/2020 12:44:20 PM   
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Campaign in Greece stalling and casualties mounting. The British will sacrifice one corps in Greece and I think it is a good choice will cost a lot to dislodge already almost regretting the invasion but not quite depends on how it ends .






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End of 1940 - 9/20/2020 9:11:56 PM   
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Greece was conquered and 1 British corps destroyed. It fell fairly easy in the end and losses not that bad. Lots of air and the British without a HQ probably made it easier than I thought it was going to be.

In the east buildup continues. There are not many Soviets around yet. If not a lot of units pop up soon I will absolutely invade as soon as possible possibly in February more likely in March. Depending on weather rolls we will see what will happen.

My problem, in a way it is a luxury problem but it is a problem anyway. I am planning of making an attack through Persia. But pretty limited like 5 corps or so. Hope to tie down atleast 8-9 Soviets to stop me from taking Baku. What bothers me is that it is so far away. As can be seen the Red Air force will most likely not contest anything in the summer so he could send his whole airforce south and I will have maybe one fighter with me. Would be a lot of free bombing xp for him and might hinder my advance pretty severely. So maybe better skip Persia really not sure what to do and I dont have many turns to decide.

Another problem because things went so well is the fact that the whole British army sits in the UK. I sense a fairly aggressive playstyle in my opponent so a 1941 D-Day is absolutely not to be discounted. I am not super scared of it I think one could let him take 1/2 of France and build up forces and then in 1942 not unlikely might be able to kick the allies out of France again. In my game with Flaviusx we all could see what the Germans can do to the allies given a chance. So save a small reaction force in France or all in in Russia thats the question.




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February 41 - 9/22/2020 9:32:11 AM   
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Lost some screenshots but not that much going on. My Battle of the Atlantic goes soso one concoy attack a single sub lost 4 steps and sunk. Buildup in the east goes on and everything is not quite ready of course but if the weather isnt totally awful I move in next turn.

In France a partisan popped up. I have never seen it before and not only that it is invisible and cant be attacked. Must be some kind of bug.






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March 14 1941 - 9/23/2020 11:09:42 AM   
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Unfortunately rain and Blizzard so no go this turn,

In Persia I am happy with the amount of Soviet troops withdrawn from the main front because of 2 German inf corps and 4 italian corps 2 inf and 2 mtn.




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March 28 1941 - 9/23/2020 11:17:25 AM   
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With snow both in the north and south the whistle blows and the Axis charge into The Sovietunion. Well charge and charge it is slow going but still .




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RE: March 28 1941 - 9/23/2020 11:18:21 AM   
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In Persia it looks like there are now 10 Soviet corps and good ones too mountain, arm and mech. I am a bit worrird about the field day the Red Airforce will have and wether I need to send a couple of more units here but I do think those 10 corps will be missed on the main front.






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RE: March 28 1941 - 9/23/2020 11:21:04 AM   
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And the British looks like they are already on the move.






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April 11 1941 - 9/23/2020 11:34:52 AM   
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April 11 1941

Advance continues slowly with rain in the northern part and snow in the south and it is not looking like there will not be much resistance for a long time.






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RE: April 11 1941 - 9/23/2020 11:35:36 AM   
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In Persia looks like Soviet buildup continues.






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RE: April 11 1941 - 9/23/2020 1:22:54 PM   
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I have never seen an early German Barbarossa fail and I don't think this one is going to be the first. Especially with that big chunk of units diverted to Persia.

Battlevonwar is going to get an ugly lesson in why you have to do a forward defense as the Soviets and not just run away to the interior. I tried to explain this to him a while back.

It looks like he is just saving up his production to do mass army builds. No rifle corps spam. I don't agree with that, either. Too big a hit on your manpower pool. And if he'd built up some rifle corps, he could be using those in Persia rather than wasting all that armor. You have no real punch down there.



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RE: April 11 1941 - 9/23/2020 1:30:12 PM   
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No think you might be right. Early days yet but all my early invasions have been big succesess and as will be seen in next screenshot I also have the weather gods with me.


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April 25 1941 - 9/23/2020 1:33:52 PM   
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I am in both games the lucky one with the weather. I get cold weather in both zones and now the Axis forces charge ahead.

If I calculated correctly there are possibly 11 turns of clear weather ahead. Will be a long summer for the Soviets I think.

I also managed to shatter the HQ with Vatutin in charge so that will hurt a bit as well.






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May 23 1941 - 9/24/2020 9:00:52 AM   
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Advance continues. I dont inflict so much losses but of the 4 units shattered this turn 3 were arm corps. I think I migh lose my paratrooper though so not without some cost.

Every turn I manage to break through the line somewhere forcing a retreat. Russia is big but not unlimited. I have an arm corps that could reach Moscow in 1 turn. A Kiev pocket threatens so I think a Soviet retreat from the Dnepr river is a must.




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RE: May 23 1941 - 9/24/2020 9:04:07 AM   
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In the west the British take Portugal under their "protection". I move a German unit to Alger in anticipation of some action in Africa in the near future.






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