Matrix Games Forums

Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

Shadow Empires updated to v1.05

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: VoodooDog
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> Shadow Empire >> Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 4:59:28 PM   
Shards

 

Posts: 56
Joined: 8/25/2015
Status: offline
Hi,

Patch v1.05 is now available either from the Check For Update button on the launcher, from your My Page (https://www.matrixgames.com/member/downloads/shadow-empire), or from the Shadow Empire Store page (https://www.matrixgames.com/game/shadow-empire).

Changelog for 1.05 from 1.04:

V1.05.00 – 29th July 2020
Highlights

• Pull Points added to the Logistics System
• History Classes added to game Setup
• Updated Manual (rules & grammar) https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4866311

Full Changelog

• Mining Overview Report added *
• Archeology Overview Report added *
• Construction Overview Report added *
• Name labels for lakes and seas are back (they disappeared somewhere during the patches) *
• It is now possible to have a world where the survivors start with alien farming. But it should still be relatively rare. *
• Fixed selling Pop to Slaver to properly pay you. *
• Switched off Metrics as I have enough info gathered for now
• Fixed a bug with disappearing Assets (due to AI code containing a bug and deleting the wrong ones)
• Fixed issue with Asset Construction Dirt Road only going to closest Rail (without road). Will now be build all the way to the first road with Logistical Points
• No longer allowing you to build Wind Traps if rain scarcity is level 4 (no water at all in atmos)
• Fixed an issue with SHQ Troops disappearing if insufficient LIS points to Raise Formation
• Changing Quality Levels for OHQ in Model Management Tab will now also make all subordinate Units to that OHQ compliant to that setting.
• Suitability rating was still wrong in the bottom part of the UI for the Commander. (OHQ & SHQ mixed up)
• Some textual fixes
• No longer possible to transfer zero weight items between SHQs if 0 Logistical Points on trajectory.
• Public Production Penalty applied to production that produces feeble quantity and thus suffers much larger penalty due to rounding up or down errors gets randomized chance if penalty is applied or not.
• Fixed a silent crash (no error message) with round 440 game
• Fixed a crash with beta9 related to the logistics calculations
• Slaver event and choosing declare war will now actually declare war *
• AI Regime Feats now go with the same rules as for the human player. Including the minimum number of rounds you’ll have to wait before having a chance to get the Regime Feat.
• Games started with Beta10 will NO longer have the stop-at-next-Logistical Asset rule from Beta9. Instead of stopping the spread of their Logistical Points they’ll be REFOCUSED at the next Logistical Asset. This Logistical Refocusing will diminish their Logistical Points but reset their APused to 0. Formula is refocused Logistical Points are diminished with currently used AP / maximum AP range and for the 1st refocus with a further 25% , for the second refocus with 50% and for the third and final refocus with 75%. This way there is less depleted runners on the map (good for pull) and it is still possible to have overlap (good for ease of play and realism).
• Pull Points algorithm now first considers the possible reach of your Logistical Assets before choosing trajectories from the Hex with the Pull Points to its SHQ (or Zone City in case of Assets).
• Fixed still buggy Asset Pull Points causing too high demands by faulty addition.
• Fixed an issue with Unit Pull Points as well.
• Lot of sweat and effort with plenty of pesky Logistical details to get it as good as possible
• In order to get the Logistics system more comprehensible I added a rule change. Once a runner from one logistical Assets encounters another logistical Asset it stops there. This is the only sane way to avoid the big majority (almost total) of the problem cases where a runner from a far away Asset would remove Pull Points that would cause a more nearby Asset to not use them. Furthermore it makes the network more comprehensible as there is less runners per hex in large networks now. * (requires new game start with beta9 for not to disrupt older games in progress)
• Units pick up supply as far downstream the Logistics network as possible now as long as pickup will still be at 100%
• Fixed a bug in the Preview mode when switching between Preview Asset and general Preview related to rail.
• Fixed QOL Bonus which was applied double the stated value
• Fixed a crash found in a round 400+ game
• Several smaller textual and typo fixes
• Fixed Raise Formation problems notably when SHQ Troops were involved.
• Fixed issue with Alien crops temperature rules, which was buggy especially with below zero temperature plant life. *
• Added an Alien Crops details report in the Help Subtab of the Reps Tab detailing its temperature tolerances. *
• Fixed bug where you could build another Asset of same kind in the same Hex as one that was delegated.
• Fixed a bug caused with v.104-beta6 where using Violent history could cause human player to be set to an AI Culture Group. It breaks some events that place Units. *
• The combination of Siwa class + Alien Life History Class was causing bad atmospheres and high biohazard levels (DasTactics). Is fixed now.
• Fixed a glitch in the Pull Logistics with to much Pull Points being requested in some directions (caused by Asset Pull overdoing preserving existing points on trajectory)
• Fixed Spotters Unit Feat… It now actually will work only with artillery instead of only with infantry. *
• Fixed another disappearing sidebars issue when you pressed “No more orders” for a New Model Decision.
• No longer showing agricultural fields during Colonization Planet generation phase if Domed Farms are used
• Added code to put back those Leaders not KIA with their HQ destruction in the Reserve Pool.
• Auto-MG Formation now available without need for the Tech Robotic Infantry *
• Fixed a glitch with Faction having a shifting Profile
• Fixed still missing robotic infantry graphic (double check this time) *
• Fixed issue with Replacements not being returned to SHQ
• Should more often have Siwa class Planets with no RHL. (perfect atmosphere for humans)
• Logistics: No more branching increase if pull goes in single direction on a road fork.
• Rail and Truck Traffic Sign will not stop Logistics Points running towards Pull Points anymore. Pull Traffic Signs will.
• Fixed double food consumption glitch caused in beta6
• Fixed an issue with Logistics where auto Pull Points from Cities were higher (and correct) with Preview than in actual execution at start of turn.
• Fixed 0 hp with immobile models (auto-MG / auto-Turret) (requires making new Model to go in effect)
• Bazooka Model is available without RPG Tech now
• Fixed issue with “Haven of Peace” and Farmer regimes without Cities appearing.
• Big one. Added History Classes to Planet Generation to allow players some variants to regular Planet Generation. Many options to explore here.
• Model development costs no longer takes into account unfinished Models
• Opened up REPLACE troops in a SHQ as well now
• Repaired The Hero of the Nation Stratagem *
• Fixed Bureaucratic Bonus not being applied to BP production *
• Fixed a number of small glitches with Logistics
• Fixed effect of Accomplished Envoys, Martial Tournaments and Administrative Competence
• The Public Production penalty reverting to either 50% or 0% now is only used for Assets in construction.
• Fixed a graphic glitch with right bar reappearing when Tabs open in very low resolution screen (that should hide the right tab to make place for the Tab itself)
• Added a 75% DPI mode that simulates having a larger screen. Obviously at the cost of some render speed and graphic fidelity, but it might be useful to some low resolution screen players.
• Fixed a possible glitch in Raise Formation quality levels not initially selected
• Fixed some mouse overs there too
• In higher difficulty levels Minors do not have the AI combat bonus against a Major AI.
• Radiation symbols on map are now coloured. Green = RAD level 1 or 2. Yellow = RAD level 3 = Blue = RAD level 4, Pink = RAD Level 5 Light Red, RAD Level 6 Heavy Red = RAD level 7 or higher.
• Sealed Road construction over existing Dirt Road now only 60% of the cost.
• Rail next to existing Road or Road next to existing Rail only 50% of the cost.
• Stopped normal Minor Militia spawning on a Hex that they cannot move out off (was notably issue with Minors without city on high mountain planets) *
• Rare case, but still: Xeno- Farming with plants with non Water solvent will not require water to farm now.
• Soil Demetalization Facility will now also produce some Radioactives Items.
• Also fixed Alien Plants ideal temperatures calculation if using a different solvent than water.
• The Pull trajectory to its source now only uses Traffic Signs that apply for pull.
• Hero of the Nation cannot be played again on same Leader
• Improved mouse-overs for SHQ Inventory better showing if there would have been a shortage for delivery of Item to Units
• Fixed issues with the penalty on AP or combat if low on Fuel or Ammo
• Public Production Penalty % below 50% now gets a roll where the effect is upped to 50% penalty for an Asset if you roll 1d50 below or equal to the Production %, if you roll above 0% penalty is applied.
• Cycling Units no longer includes Units that maybe didn’t move or attack but which have 0 AP.
• Added WHY remarks to the Unit Supply sub-Tab for Unit having less Supply than requested. Possible reasons that will be mentioned: Pickup-Point to far away, Not enough LP on road between pick-up point and SHQ, Not enough Items in SHQ inventory, SHQ Logistical point use limit reached.
• Added Color codes to the Unit Supply sub-Tab button now shows the % of of requests that was delivered. White = 100%, Greenish >=75% , Yellow >= 50%, Blue=> 25%, Red < 25%. To give a quick signal that even though the Unit might have had 100% present of what it needed to consume there
• Fixed issue with Custom Pull Points not working if Automatic Points disabled
• Limit Production now also limits Asset auto Pull Points.
• Fixed issue with Auto Asset Pull Points not taking branching into account
• Added the option to distinguish between Additive Custom Pull Points and Overruling Pull Points.
• Added the option to set a Hex-based order if the Traffic Signs apply to Truck Logistics, Rail Logistics or Pull Points (or a combination)
• Fixed a glitch with the Suitability Rating for SHQ Commanders in the bottom part of the interface
• Fixed problem with Logistical Bonus not being applied to Asset Production
• Fixed a glitch with setting the age when rolling Leaders
• Should have improved rare issue where map wouldnt be able to scroll completely visible to the bottom
• Fixed intermittent crash with Mystic Priest in combat
• Reduced Corporate anti-crime taking Credits from godfather a bit
• Made efficiency of anti-crime ops from Corporate depended on the percentage of control they have over the private economy
• Fixed at least partially, but probably completely, the disappearing sidebars issue if click on a popup opening element in the Reports or Decision tab.
• Victory is now declared if you have more than 50 Victory Score and 2nd place has at least 25 Victory Score less than you. Is now in line with manual as well.
• With Raise Formation and using SHQ Troops the Popup is now showing ITEM% and TROOP% as the percentage of the total Formation you can raise, either by using pre-produced SHQ Troops or by newly constructed (or a mix). This way you are not blocked raising a Formation if you have for example no Items but 50% of Troops already in SHQ.
• Board Member Stratagems can now also be played on the Director executing them *
• Upped Rain mm limit for receiving free Ice Mine on higher development levels
• Fixed a faulty mixup with a Corporate CEO “leaving you” which is not possible (but harmless glitch)
• Thanks for all the feedback.
• Wanted to make two points.
• First the system has not been simplified, just an extra tool to manage it has been added to the toolbox. If you want you can play the game exactly the same as before the Pull Points were added to the toolbox by just not using the “Pull Points tool”.
• Secondly I gave it a lot of thought and I concluded (for now) the Traffic lights system and the Pull Points should be interconnected and NOT be presented as two separate systems. This will lead to less confusion and Players can always choose to use only one or only the other or choose to mix them. I just feel it is more coherent like this.
• Traffic Signs now also affect the Pull Point trajectories
• Some other minor nerfs to Pull Points
• Trains now spread LP before Trucks
• Fixed glitch with to many Logistical Points being sent towards Pull Points (first bug that got reported)
• Asset Pull Points are now only applied to the trajectory if current Pull already applied is below what they need
• City Pull is now [ previous turn pickup request ] + [ current predicted delivery to zone request ]
• The event where you got Free Folk or Adventurers on a distant Hex will now be made less distant if possible. Remember it is always possible to refuse to take this choice. Also will try to avoid to close ones. But it will not always be possible due to the randomness of the map.
• Made some small fixes to Dissolution War calculations to make the numbers add up better. However do not forget that over hundred of years many children are born as well, total casualties can be higher than the initial population. *
• Minors with a City now start with a Private Truck Station. Which will help you when taking over a Minor. *
• Fixed Item % (and Troop%) preview calculations in Raise Formation popups.
• Fixed coding present in some messages in the decision archive (from next round forward)
• Fixed a history map glitch after you conquered a Zone
• Fixed minimap in history map not working well (or with delay causing artifacts)
• Fixed some other minor map glitches in history mode as well
• Blocked clicking on enemy hex in the combat selection popup
• Fixed a -1 glitch in Treasure Found text
• Fixed glitch with Slave Trader not paying up *
• Mystic Priest Unit Feat fixed.. Will now have salvage effect with KILLS *
• Policy Speech, Faction Candidate and Faction Demand not clicking anything and ending turn is no longer possible *
• Fixed Storm Grenadier OOBs (they are Inf + Art + Pz) *
• Fixed a code showing in text issue for decisions with Unrest/Danger… *
• Increased randomness for Stratagems given by Factions
• Added Pull Point systems for the Logistics
• You need to start a new game with this beta2 to try them out (wanted to minimize risk to disrupt running games)
• By default automatic Asset, Unit and City Pull Points are used. You can however switch these automatic points off in the Traffic Signs Popup
• You can place Custom Pull Points on any Hex you like and they will be added to any automatic Pull Points
• Hexes with Pull Points trace a path to either their City (Assets) or to their SHQ (Units, Cities)
• These paths will favor roads without traffic signs leading to them (so for some edge cases you can discourage use of a certain road)
• When Logistic Points find a branch in the Road they’ll first serve any Pull points that have been traced to their City/SHQ through that branch
• The Pull systems is logged and can be studied in the Logs of the Traffic Signs Popup
• On map in current LP view only the Custom Pull Points are shown in green.
• On map in history LP view the Pull Points used at start of turn calculations are shown in gray.
• On map in preview LP view the Pull Points as they’ll probably be automatically placed + your Custom Pull Points are shown in pink.
• On top of the Hex total Pull Point info block is shown a small red bar if Asset Pull Points are present, green if Unit Pull Points are present and blue if City Pull Points are present and black if Custom Pull Points are present.
• The City Pull Points are based on previous turn delivery requests + pickup requests
• The Unit Pull Points are based on the weight in supply they’ll request
• The Asset Pull Points are based on the minimal logistics points needed for them to operate without penalty
• You can also place a Custom Pull BLOCK on a Hex which nullifies any automatic requests of that Hex.
• This will require some fine tuning.
• Field Training Stratagem will now only be played if little enemies around.
• Added rules to not allow random event based gifting of Methane Synthesis, Deep Core Mining and Water Atmospheric Recomposition if the Planet does not have the right variables.
• Added protection code for Assets being placed without road connection at game start
• Fixed a Stratagem mouse over inconsistency on who’s going to execute the Stratagem
• Fixed 3rd party Leaders founding new Factions and some other related minor glitches with those kind (and dead/left leaders)
• Changed the way Supply Bases are giving extension. They now only give extension points upto the point normal action points have already been used. This makes them function as actually intended. Will only be in effect with games started with v1.04-beta1 *
• The calibre and weapon matrices were not being implemented as combat modifiers. Major oversight indeed. They will from this version on forward. Be careful when continuing with this beta as it might change the odds in your favor or disadvantage in especially mid to late game.
• Tuned the soldiers losses where they had the upper hand in event-based fighting.
• In event-based fighting with troops and security staff the Security Assets can now also lose levels.
• Hurting the Syndicate in a specific Zone by attacking them and causing them to be reduced to close to 0 crews will now mean their hidden bases have also been dismantled and it will cause a big cut in the capital of the syndicate. *
• Fixed mouse over. Algae vats do not profit from cross-fertilization.*
• Fixed 0 key for Guard, if not yet pressed 8 or 9.
• Fixed some small glitches
• Fixed a bug where Food delivered by Militia to Zone inventory was reported as given, but where it actually was not being added
• Fixed a minor glitch where the Recruits + Colonists transferred from Zone to SHQ where being fed in Zone and after transfer in their SHQ as well. Now they will only be fed in SHQ.
• You can now pass to the 2nd Raise Formation window even if you do not have the PP available for raising the Formation (for inspection purposes)
• Major Regime without Zones or Units is now put to sleep (in future version I want rebels to be able to revive a Major Regime) and relations with Minors reset (so some blockages for minor diplomatics are removed concerning this major). Also it is removed from the S.MAP regime list if no hexes left on map and from TARGET STRATAGEM tab if asleep.
• And Majors without Zones will be removed from the Regimes Reports.*
• Added a cap to Incr Sales Tax, inc Income Tax, Incr Import Tariff, Incr Export Tariff stratagems. Max tax is 100%.
• Buggy maximum 50mm armour now *
• Increased Buggy size from 2 to 3 to make cost for armour go up a bit *
• “Loyal AI” no longer going to emergency hostility if getting close to losing the game
• No longer losing Stratagems in some cases with dip/spy stratagems where you lost the previous level of the stratagem and that caused a higher level to disappear.
• Natural relation point Job Prestige factor less depended on Ambition now
Post #: 1
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 6:19:08 PM   
zgrssd

 

Posts: 1492
Joined: 6/9/2020
Status: offline
You can not just copy and paste the Beta Patchnotes. Not while also removing the Beta Version Subheaders

You now have a change to a mechanic:
"Games started with Beta10 will NO longer have the stop-at-next-Logistical Asset rule from Beta9. Instead of stopping the spread of their Logistical Points they’ll be REFOCUSED at the next Logistical Asset. This Logistical Refocusing will diminish their Logistical Points but reset their APused to 0. Formula is refocused Logistical Points are diminished with currently used AP / maximum AP range and for the 1st refocus with a further 25% , for the second refocus with 50% and for the third and final refocus with 75%. This way there is less depleted runners on the map (good for pull) and it is still possible to have overlap (good for ease of play and realism). "
before you even explained the actuall mechanic that was changed. Really confusing for everyone that never looked at the Beta.

None of the changes or fixes for mechanics you only introduced during the Beta make any sense for the final release. Just tell us the final state :)

< Message edited by zgrssd -- 8/4/2020 8:39:30 PM >

(in reply to Shards)
Post #: 2
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 6:22:18 PM   
demiare

 

Posts: 470
Joined: 6/20/2020
Status: offline
It will be also nice to know - are there any differences from latest beta? Because this version of pathnotes is a huge mess to read as zgrssd already noted.

(in reply to zgrssd)
Post #: 3
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 8:26:34 PM   
Malevolence


Posts: 1764
Joined: 4/3/2010
Status: offline
Yeah, what those two guys said. This change log needs to be cleaned up for the final production merge. Do you git' it?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Malevolence

quote:

ORIGINAL: Vic

Posted v104-beta8

No new stuff, but quite a few bug fixes.

Whats left for v104 beta testing is further improving the Pull Points. Notably the remaining issue it that the algorithm can still be much better where it concerns finding the optimal route for the Pull trajectory, which is not always the shortest.

After that i'll move to official v105 patch.

best wishes,
Vic


If your next drop is v105 via the normal matrix update, please add an minor separator or indicator in the v105 update notes for changes made between v104-beta8 and v105.

Why? Because if the release update is not a merge from beta, it can be onerous to identify only the added change notes that document fixes made between the beta and the released update.






< Message edited by Malevolence -- 8/4/2020 8:28:24 PM >


_____________________________

Nicht kleckern, sondern klotzen!

*Please remember all posts are made by a malevolent, autocratic despot whose rule is marked by unjust severity and arbitrary behavior. Your experiences may vary.

(in reply to demiare)
Post #: 4
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 8:33:46 PM   
Malevolence


Posts: 1764
Joined: 4/3/2010
Status: offline
... also, please mark the inside of manual with the document's version number and date. At least close to or near the cover page.

I'll not suggest a change log page, it would just be too much to ask.

The version number and date isn't optional.


_____________________________

Nicht kleckern, sondern klotzen!

*Please remember all posts are made by a malevolent, autocratic despot whose rule is marked by unjust severity and arbitrary behavior. Your experiences may vary.

(in reply to Malevolence)
Post #: 5
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 9:42:04 PM   
Twotribes


Posts: 6800
Joined: 2/15/2002
From: Jacksonville NC
Status: offline
Is there any reason to start a new game if you were on beta 11B?

(in reply to Shards)
Post #: 6
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 9:45:50 PM   
Malevolence


Posts: 1764
Joined: 4/3/2010
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Twotribes

Is there any reason to start a new game if you were on beta 11B?


It might be ahead of the production version.

"Fixed an issue with raising Formations and SHQ Troops which gave free troops."

... is not listed as far as I can skim those changes.

Regression bug?

< Message edited by Malevolence -- 8/4/2020 9:47:00 PM >


_____________________________

Nicht kleckern, sondern klotzen!

*Please remember all posts are made by a malevolent, autocratic despot whose rule is marked by unjust severity and arbitrary behavior. Your experiences may vary.

(in reply to Twotribes)
Post #: 7
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 9:54:32 PM   
Twotribes


Posts: 6800
Joined: 2/15/2002
From: Jacksonville NC
Status: offline
I don't mind free Troops )

(in reply to Malevolence)
Post #: 8
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 10:16:26 PM   
Malevolence


Posts: 1764
Joined: 4/3/2010
Status: offline
Using something like Excel and the magic of CONCAT-- you get this kind of thing in 10 minutes work. (this does not fix zgrssd's very valid point about non-merged features between beta versions.)

  • Fixed an issue with raising Formations and SHQ Troops which gave free troops (v1.04-beta11b)
  • Mining Overview Report added * (v1.04-beta11)
  • Archeology Overview Report added * (v1.04-beta11)
  • Construction Overview Report added * (v1.04-beta11)
  • Name labels for lakes and seas are back (they disappeared somewhere during the patches) * (v1.04-beta11)
  • It is now possible to have a world where the survivors start with alien farming. But it should still be relatively rare. * (v1.04-beta11)
  • Fixed selling Pop to Slaver to properly pay you. * (v1.04-beta11)
  • Switched of Metrics as I have enough info gathered for now (v1.04-beta11)
  • Fixed a bug with disappearing Assets (due to AI code containing a bug and deleting the wrong ones) (v1.04-beta11)
  • Fixed issue with Asset Construction Dirt Road only going to closest Rail (without road). Will now be build all the way to the first road with Logistical Points (v1.04-beta11)
  • No longer allowing you to build Wind Traps if rain scarcity is level 4 (no water at all in atmos) (v1.04-beta11)
  • Fixed an issue with SHQ Troops disappearing if insufficient LIS points to Raise Formation (v1.04-beta11)
  • Changing Quality Levels for OHQ in Model Management Tab will now also make all subordinate Units to that OHQ compliant to that setting. (v1.04-beta11)
  • (OTHER) Suitability rating was still wrong in the bottom part of the UI for the Commander. (OHQ & SHQ mixed up) (v1.04-beta10)
  • (OTHER) Some textual fixes (v1.04-beta10)
  • (OTHER) No longer possible to transfer zero weight items between SHQs if 0 Logistical Points on trajectory. (v1.04-beta10)
  • (OTHER) Public Production Penalty applied to production that produces feeble quantity and thus suffers much larger penalty due to rounding up or down errors gets randomized chance if penalty is applied or not. (v1.04-beta10)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a silent crash (no error message) with round 440 game (v1.04-beta10)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a crash with beta9 related to the logistics calculations (v1.04-beta10)
  • (OTHER) Slaver event and choosing declare war will now actually declare war * (v1.04-beta10)
  • (OTHER) AI Regime Feats now go with the same rules as for the human player. Including the minimum number of rounds you’ll have to wait before having a chance to get the Regime Feat. (v1.04-beta10)
  • (LOGISTICS) Games started with Beta10 will NO longer have the stop at next Logistical Asset rule I tried out in Beta9. Instead of stopping the spread of their Logistical Points when meeting another Logistical Asset they’ll now be REFOCUSED at that next Logistical Asset. This Logistical Refocusing will diminish their Logistical Points but reset their AP used to 0. Formula is refocused Logistical Points are diminished with currently used AP / maximum AP range and for the 1st refocus with a further 25% , for the second refocus with 50% and for the third and final refocus with 75%. This way there is less depleted runners on the map (good for pull) and it is still possible to have overlap (good for ease of play and realism). (v1.04-beta10)
  • (LOGISTICS) Pull Points algorithm now first considers the possible reach of your Logistical Assets before choosing trajectories from the Hex with the Pull Points to its SHQ (or Zone City in case of Assets). (v1.04-beta9)
  • (LOGISTICS) Fixed still buggy Asset Pull Points causing too high demands by faulty addition. (v1.04-beta9)
  • (LOGISTICS) Fixed an issue with Unit Pull Points as well. (v1.04-beta9)
  • (LOGISTICS) Lot of sweat and effort with plenty of pesky Logistical details to get it as good as possible (v1.04-beta9)
  • (LOGISTICS) In order to get the Logistics system more comprehensible I added a rule change. Once a runner from one logistical Assets encounters another logistical Asset it stops there. This is the only sane way to avoid the big majority (almost total) of the problem cases where a runner from a far away Asset would remove Pull Points that would cause a more nearby Asset to not use them. Furthermore it makes the network more comprehensible as there is less runners per hex in large networks now. * (requires new game start with beta9 for not to disrupt older games in progress) (v1.04-beta9)
  • (LOGISTICS) Units pick up supply as far downstream the Logistics network as possible now as long as pickup will still be at 100% (v1.04-beta9)
  • (LOGISTICS) Fixed a bug in the Preview mode when switching between Preview Asset and general Preview related to rail. (v1.04-beta9)
  • (OTHER) Fixed QOL Bonus which was applied double the stated value (v1.04-beta9)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a crash found in a round 400+ game (v1.04-beta9)
  • (OTHER) Several smaller textual and typo fixes (v1.04-beta9)
  • (OTHER) Fixed Raise Formation problems notably when SHQ Troops were involved. (v1.04-beta9)
  • (OTHER) Fixed issue with Alien crops temperature rules, which was buggy especially with below zero temperature plant life. * (v1.04-beta9)
  • (OTHER) Added an Alien Crops details report in the Help Subtab of the Reps Tab detailing its temperature tolerances. * (v1.04-beta9)
  • (OTHER) Fixed bug where you could build another Asset of same kind in the same Hex as one that was delegated. (v1.04-beta9)
  • Fixed a bug caused with v.104beta6 where using Violent history could cause human player to be set to an AI Culture Group which breaks some events that place Units.* (v1.04-beta8)
  • The combination of Siwa class + Alien Life History Class was causing bad atmospheres and high biohazard levels (DasTactics). This is fixed now. (v1.04-beta8)
  • Fixed a glitch in the Pull Logistics with to much Pull Points being requested in some directions (caused by Asset Pull overdoing preserving existing points on trajectory) (v1.04-beta8)
  • Fixed Spotters Unit Feat… It now actually will work only with artillery instead of only with infantry. * (v1.04-beta8)
  • Fixed another disappearing sidebars issue when you pressed “No more orders” for a New Model Decision. (v1.04-beta8)
  • No longer showing agricultural fields during Colonization Planet generation phase if Domed Farms are used (v1.04-beta8)
  • Added code to put back those Leaders not KIA with their HQ destruction in the Reserve Pool. (v1.04-beta8)
  • AutoMG Formation now available without need for the Tech Robotic Infantry * (v1.04-beta8)
  • Fixed a glitch with Faction having a shifting Profile (v1.04-beta8)
  • Fixed the still(!) missing robotic infantry graphic (double checked this time) * (v1.04-beta8)
  • Fixed issue with Replacements not being returned to SHQ (v1.04-beta8)
  • Should now more often have Siwa class Planets with no RHL. (perfect atmosphere for humans) (v1.04-beta7)
  • Logistics: No more branching increase if pull goes in single direction on a road fork. (v1.04-beta7)
  • Rail and Truck Traffic Sign will not stop Logistics Points running towards Pull Points anymore. Pull Traffic Signs will. (v1.04-beta7)
  • Fixed double food consumption glitch caused in beta6 (v1.04-beta7)
  • Fixed an issue with Logistics where auto Pull Points from Cities were higher (and correct) with Preview than in actual execution at start of turn. (v1.04-beta7)
  • Fixed 0 hp with immobile models (autoMG / autoTurret) (requires making new Model to go in effect) (v1.04-beta7)
  • Bazooka Model is available without RPG Tech now * (v1.04-beta7)
  • Fixed issue with “Haven of Peace” and Farmer regimes without Cities appearing (v1.04-beta7)
  • Big one. Added History Classes to Planet Generation to allow players some variants to regular Planet Generation. Many options to explore here. (v1.04-beta6)
  • Model development costs no longer takes into account unfinished Models (v1.04-beta6)
  • Opened up REPLACE troops in a SHQ as well now (v1.04-beta6)
  • Repaired The Hero of the Nation Stratagem * (v1.04-beta6)
  • Fixed Bureaucratic Bonus not being applied to BP production * (v1.04-beta6)
  • Fixed a number of small glitches with Logistics (v1.04-beta6)
  • Fixed effect of Accomplished Envoys, Martial Tournaments and Administrative Competence (v1.04-beta6)
  • The Public Production penalty reverting to either 50% or 0% now is only used for Assets in construction. (v1.04-beta6)
  • Fixed a graphic glitch with right bar reappearing when Tabs open in very low resolution screen (that should hide the right tab to make place for the Tab itself) (v1.04-beta6)
  • Added a 75% DPI mode that simulates having a larger screen. Obviously at the cost of some render speed and graphic fidelity, but it might be useful to some low resolution screen players. (v1.04-beta6)
  • Fixed a possible glitch in Raise Formation quality levels not initially selected (v1.04-beta6)
  • Fixed some mouse overs there too (v1.04-beta6)
  • In higher difficulty levels Minors do not have the AI combat bonus against a Major AI. (v1.04-beta6)
  • Radiation symbols on map are now coloured. Green = RAD level 1 or 2. Yellow = RAD level 3 = Blue = RAD level 4, Pink = RAD Level 5 Light Red, RAD Level 6 Heavy Red = RAD level 7 or higher. (v1.04-beta6)
  • Sealed Road construction over existing Dirt Road now only 60% of the cost. (v1.04-beta6)
  • Rail next to existing Road or Road next to existing Rail only 50% of the cost. (v1.04-beta6)
  • Stopped normal Minor Militia spawning on a Hex that they cannot move out off (was notably issue with Minors without city on high mountain planets) * (v1.04-beta6)
  • Rare case, but still: XenoFarming with plants with non Water solvent will not require water to farm now. (v1.04-beta6)
  • Also fixed Alien Plants ideal temperatures calculation if using a different solvent than water. (v1.04-beta6)
  • The Pull trajectory from the Pull Points to the source where they'll be pulled from now only uses Traffic Signs that apply for Pull. (v1.04-beta5)
  • Hero of the Nation cannot be played again on same Leader * (v1.04-beta5)
  • Improved mouseovers for SHQ Inventory better showing if there would have been a shortage for delivery of Items to Units (v1.04-beta5)
  • Fixed issues with the penalty on AP or combat not being applied if low on Fuel or Ammo (v1.04-beta5)
  • Public Production Penalty % below 50% now gets a roll where the effect is upped to 50% penalty for an Asset if you roll 1d50 below or equal to the Production %, if you roll above 0% penalty is applied. (v1.04-beta5)
  • Cycling Units no longer includes Units that maybe didn’t move or attack but which have 0 AP. (v1.04-beta5)
  • Added WHY remarks to the Unit Supply subTab for Unit having less Supply than requested. Possible reasons that will be mentioned: PickupPoint to far away, Not enough LP on road between pickup point and SHQ, Not enough Items in SHQ inventory, SHQ Logistical point use limit reached. (v1.04-beta5)
  • Added Color codes to the Unit Supply subTab button now shows the % of of requests that was delivered. White = 100%, Greenish >=75% , Yellow >= 50%, Blue=> 25%, Red < 25%. To give a quick signal that even though the Unit might have had 100% present of what it needed to consume there (v1.04-beta5)
  • (LOGISTICS) Fixed issue with Custom Pull Points not working if Automatic Points disabled (v1.04-beta4)
  • (LOGISTICS) Limit Production now also limits Asset auto Pull Points. (v1.04-beta4)
  • (LOGISTICS) Fixed issue with Auto Asset Pull Points not taking branching into account (v1.04-beta4)
  • (LOGISTICS) Added the option to distinguish between Additive Custom Pull Points and Overruling Pull Points. (v1.04-beta4)
  • (LOGISTICS) Added the option to set a Hexbased order if the Traffic Signs apply to Truck Logistics, Rail Logistics or Pull Points (or a combination) (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a glitch with the Suitability Rating for SHQ Commanders in the bottom part of the interface (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Fixed problem with Logistical Bonus not being applied to Asset Production (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a glitch with setting the age when rolling Leaders (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Should have improved rare issue where map wouldnt be able to scroll completely visible to the bottom (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Fixed intermittent crash with Mystic Priest in combat (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Reduced Corporate anticrime taking Credits from godfather a bit (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Made efficiency of anticrime ops from Corporate depended on the percentage of control they have over the private economy (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Fixed at least partially, but probably completely, the disappearing sidebars issue if click on a popup opening element in the Reports or Decision tab. (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Victory is now declared if you have more than 50 Victory Score and 2nd place has at least 25 Victory Score less than you. Is now in line with manual as well. (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) With Raise Formation and using SHQ Troops the Popup is now showing ITEM% and TROOP% as the percentage of the total Formation you can raise, either by using preproduced SHQ Troops or by newly constructed (or a mix). This way you are not blocked raising a Formation if you have for example no Items but 50% of Troops already in SHQ. (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Board Member Stratagems can now also be played on the Director executing them * (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Upped Rain mm limit for receiving free Ice Mine on higher development levels (v1.04-beta4)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a faulty mixup with a Corporate CEO “leaving you” which is not possible (but harmless glitch) (v1.04-beta4)
  • (LOGISTICS) Traffic Signs now also affect the Pull Point trajectories (v1.04-beta3)
  • (LOGISTICS) Some other minor nerfs to Pull Points (v1.04-beta3)
  • (LOGISTICS) Trains now spread LP before Trucks (v1.04-beta3)
  • (LOGISTICS) Fixed glitch with to many Logistical Points being sent towards Pull Points (first bug that got reported) (v1.04-beta3)
  • (LOGISTICS) Asset Pull Points are now only applied to the trajectory if current Pull already applied is below what they need (v1.04-beta3)
  • (LOGISTICS) City Pull is now [ previous turn pickup request ] + [ current predicted delivery to zone request ] (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) The event where you got Free Folk or Adventurers on a distant Hex will now be made less distant if possible. Remember it is always possible to refuse to take this choice. Also will try to avoid to close ones. But it will not always be possible due to the randomness of the map. (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Made some small fixes to Dissolution War calculations to make the numbers add up better. However do not forget that over hundred of years many children are born as well, total casualties can be higher than the initial population. * (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Minors with a City now start with a Private Truck Station. Which will help you when taking over a Minor. * (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Fixed Item % (and Troop%) preview calculations in Raise Formation popups. (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Fixed coding present in some messages in the decision archive (from next round forward) (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a history map glitch after you conquered a Zone (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Fixed minimap in history map not working well (or with delay causing artifacts) (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Fixed some other minor map glitches in history mode as well (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Blocked clicking on enemy hex in the combat selection popup (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a 1 glitch in Treasure Found text (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Fixed glitch with Slave Trader not paying up * (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Mystic Priest Unit Feat fixed.. Will now have salvage effect with KILLS * (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Policy Speech, Faction Candidate and Faction Demand not clicking anything and ending turn is no longer possible * (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Fixed Storm Grenadier OOBs (they are Inf + Art + Pz) * (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a code showing in text issue for decisions with Unrest/Danger… * (v1.04-beta3)
  • (OTHER) Increased randomness for Stratagems given by Factions (v1.04-beta3)
  • (LOGISTICS) Added Pull Point systems for the Logistics (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) You need to start a new game with this beta2 to try them out (wanted to minimize risk to disrupt running games) (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) By default automatic Asset, Unit and City Pull Points are used. You can however switch these automatic points off in the Traffic Signs Popup (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) You can place Custom Pull Points on any Hex you like and they will be added to any automatic Pull Points (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) Hexes with Pull Points trace a path to either their City (Assets) or to their SHQ (Units, Cities) (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) These paths will favor roads without traffic signs leading to them (so for some edge cases you can discourage use of a certain road) (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) When Logistic Points find a branch in the Road they’ll first serve any Pull points that have been traced to their City/SHQ through that branch (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) The Pull systems is logged and can be studied in the Logs of the Traffic Signs Popup (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) On map in current LP view only the Custom Pull Points are shown in green. (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) On map in history LP view the Pull Points used at start of turn calculations are shown in gray. (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) On map in preview LP view the Pull Points as they’ll probably be automatically placed + your Custom Pull Points are shown in pink. (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) On top of the Hex total Pull Point info block is shown a small red bar if Asset Pull Points are present, green if Unit Pull Points are present and blue if City Pull Points are present and black if Custom Pull Points are present. (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) The City Pull Points are based on previous turn delivery requests + pickup requests (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) The Unit Pull Points are based on the weight in supply they’ll request (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) The Asset Pull Points are based on the minimal logistics points needed for them to operate without penalty (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) You can also place a Custom Pull BLOCK on a Hex which nullifies any automatic requests of that Hex. (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) These changes above require some fine tuning. (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) The Prefs will remember if you disabled Asset Pull Points, Unit Pull Points and/or City Pull Points for a start of a new game. You can have different settings in different saves however. (v1.04-beta2)
  • (OTHER) Field Training Stratagem will now only be played if little enemies around. (v1.04-beta2)
  • (OTHER) Added rules to not allow random event based gifting of Methane Synthesis, Deep Core Mining and Water Atmospheric Recomposition if the Planet does not have the right variables. (v1.04-beta2)
  • (OTHER) Added protection code for Assets being placed without road connection at game start (v1.04-beta2)
  • (OTHER) Fixed a Stratagem mouse over inconsistency on who’s going to execute the Stratagem (v1.04-beta2)
  • (OTHER) Fixed 3rd party Leaders founding new Factions and some other related minor glitches with those kind (and dead/left leaders) (v1.04-beta2)
  • (LOGISTICS) Changed the way Supply Bases are giving extension. They now only give extension points upto the point normal action points have already been used. This makes them function as actually intended. Will only be in effect with games started with v1.04beta1 * (v1.04-beta1)
  • The calibre and weapon matrices were not being implemented as combat modifiers. Major oversight indeed. They will from this version on forward. Be careful when continuing with this beta as it might change the odds in your favor or disadvantage in especially mid to late game. (v1.04-beta1)
  • Tuned the soldiers losses where they had the upper hand in eventbased fighting. (v1.04-beta1)
  • In eventbased fighting with troops and security staff the Security Assets can now also lose levels. (v1.04-beta1)
  • Hurting the Syndicate in a specific Zone by attacking them and causing them to be reduced to close to 0 crews will now mean their hidden bases have also been dismantled and it will cause a big cut in the capital of the syndicate. * (v1.04-beta1)
  • Fixed mouse over. Algae vats do not profit from crossfertilization.* (v1.04-beta1)
  • Fixed 0 key for Guard, if not yet pressed 8 or 9. (v1.04-beta1)
  • Fixed some small glitches (v1.04-beta1)
  • Fixed a bug where Food delivered by Militia to Zone inventory was reported as given, but where it actually was not being added (v1.04-beta1)
  • Fixed a minor glitch where the Recruits + Colonists transferred from Zone to SHQ where being fed in Zone and after transfer in their SHQ as well. Now they will only be fed in SHQ. (v1.04-beta1)
  • You can now pass to the 2nd Raise Formation window even if you do not have the PP available for raising the Formation (for inspection purposes) (v1.04-beta1)
  • Major Regime without Zones or Units is now put to sleep (in future version I want rebels to be able to revive a Major Regime) and relations with Minors reset (so some blockages for minor diplomatics are removed concerning this major). Also it is removed from the S.MAP regime list if no hexes left on map and from TARGET STRATAGEM tab if asleep. (v1.04-beta1)
  • And Majors without Zones will be removed from the Regimes Reports.* (v1.04-beta1)
  • Added a cap to Incr Sales Tax, inc Income Tax, Incr Import Tariff, Incr Export Tariff stratagems. Max tax is 100%. * (v1.04-beta1)
  • Buggy maximum 50mm armour now * (v1.04-beta1)
  • Increased Buggy size from 2 to 3 to make cost for armour go up a bit * (v1.04-beta1)
  • “Loyal AI” no longer going to emergency hostility if getting close to losing the game (v1.04-beta1)
  • No longer losing Stratagems in some cases with dip/spy stratagems where you lost the previous level of the stratagem and that caused a higher level to disappear. (v1.04-beta1)
  • Natural relation point Job Prestige factor less depended on Ambition now (v1.04-beta1)


< Message edited by Malevolence -- 8/4/2020 10:30:31 PM >


_____________________________

Nicht kleckern, sondern klotzen!

*Please remember all posts are made by a malevolent, autocratic despot whose rule is marked by unjust severity and arbitrary behavior. Your experiences may vary.

(in reply to Malevolence)
Post #: 9
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/4/2020 10:51:06 PM   
Daza99

 

Posts: 104
Joined: 8/1/2017
Status: offline
Firstly thanks Vic for the huge amount of work into bug fixes, tweaks and the new pull system (have been looking forward to trying that out), also thanks for updating the manual!

@Malevolence That is way more easier to read done like that. Good job o7.

(in reply to Malevolence)
Post #: 10
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/5/2020 12:20:40 AM   
Destragon

 

Posts: 232
Joined: 6/8/2020
Status: offline
I'm also wondering if the "Fixed an issue with raising Formations and SHQ Troops which gave free troops" bit is part of this update or not.

(in reply to Daza99)
Post #: 11
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/5/2020 12:23:15 AM   
eddieballgame

 

Posts: 369
Joined: 6/29/2011
Status: offline
I am guessing that if one updates to this version, any 'PBEM' game on previous betas (1.07 to be exact) would cause issues.

(in reply to Destragon)
Post #: 12
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/5/2020 5:52:26 AM   
Vic


Posts: 7000
Joined: 5/17/2004
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Twotribes

Is there any reason to start a new game if you were on beta 11B?


No. In general there is no reason to restart if you upgrade the version of the executable.

_____________________________

Visit www.vrdesigns.net for the latest news, polls, screenshots and blogs on Shadow Empire, Decisive Campaigns and Advanced Tactics


(in reply to Twotribes)
Post #: 13
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/5/2020 5:53:32 AM   
Vic


Posts: 7000
Joined: 5/17/2004
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Destragon

I'm also wondering if the "Fixed an issue with raising Formations and SHQ Troops which gave free troops" bit is part of this update or not.


It is. Everything that passed beta v104 is included in v105.

_____________________________

Visit www.vrdesigns.net for the latest news, polls, screenshots and blogs on Shadow Empire, Decisive Campaigns and Advanced Tactics


(in reply to Destragon)
Post #: 14
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/6/2020 6:34:42 PM   
Unity

 

Posts: 5
Joined: 7/26/2020
Status: offline
1.) What are those "History Classes added to game Setup"?

2.) Will the changes also affect older savegames?

Update:

ad 1.) O.k., saw it. Cool stuff

< Message edited by Unity -- 8/6/2020 6:40:43 PM >

(in reply to Vic)
Post #: 15
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/6/2020 7:23:06 PM   
demiare

 

Posts: 470
Joined: 6/20/2020
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Unity
2.) Will the changes also affect older savegames?


SOME changes (NOT marked by asterisk) will affect existing games. Most of them (every line ending WITH asterisk) will require to start a new game.

(in reply to Unity)
Post #: 16
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/7/2020 2:25:28 AM   
Malevolence


Posts: 1764
Joined: 4/3/2010
Status: offline
I believe changes to randomgame.se1 are marked with an asterisk in the change log. Those need a new game start.

All new games are born from the "randomgame.se1" scenario file.

The scenario file establishes the "Scenario Build" and "Scenario Version Number" shown in game.

Also, when you complete the planet creation segment the "lastplanetgenerated.se1" is saved in your savegame directory. That keeps the same Scenario Build and Scenario Version Number when reused.

According to demiare, the planet save is only done if autosave was enabled in your previous game's settings (perhaps a bug?).

quote:

ORIGINAL: demiare

WARNING! This file will be generated ONLY if you have enabled "Auto save" in game preference BEFORE generating new world.

If you disabled it during your game - you have no way to re-enable it but load existing save, enable and only then generating a new planet.


Each auto savegame or manual savegame is also a scenario file--with all the changes to state since the previous load.

The developer makes changes and fixes to two significant files. First to the runtime game engine called "ShadowEmpire.exe". Those changes do not require a new game.

However, when the developer makes changes to the base scenario (i.e. randomgame.se1), then a new game must be started to incorporate the fixes/changes. Those, I believe, are marked with an asterisk in the change log.

It isn't stated, but I believe that lastplanetgenerated.se1 files are NOT version agnostic. I believe they keep the scenario version that was used to start the game. Using a lastplanetgenerated.se1 is NOT a true new game start. That is a guesstimate.



< Message edited by Malevolence -- 8/7/2020 2:39:13 AM >


_____________________________

Nicht kleckern, sondern klotzen!

*Please remember all posts are made by a malevolent, autocratic despot whose rule is marked by unjust severity and arbitrary behavior. Your experiences may vary.

(in reply to demiare)
Post #: 17
RE: Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 - 8/7/2020 6:22:08 AM   
Vic


Posts: 7000
Joined: 5/17/2004
Status: offline
quote:


Using a lastplanetgenerated.se1 is NOT a true new game start. That is a guesstimate.

that is a correct guess!

_____________________________

Visit www.vrdesigns.net for the latest news, polls, screenshots and blogs on Shadow Empire, Decisive Campaigns and Advanced Tactics


(in reply to Malevolence)
Post #: 18
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> Shadow Empire >> Shadow Empires updated to v1.05 Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

0.169