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1950s Cold War OOBs - 6/22/2020 11:46:13 AM   
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Hello everyone:

New to the world of scenario-making; I'd like to try to make a "Cold War hot" scenario for the mid-to-late 1950s as I haven't seen any scenarios like this. I want F-84 Thunderstreaks hurtling on their one-way missions to toss-bomb a single nuclear weapon onto a Soviet airfield... hundreds of MiG-!5s scrambling to defend...etc. However, since I am new to scenario making i haven't been able to find good OOBs, this many planes at this airfield and so forth. Where can I find that for the US and USSR for this era?
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RE: 1950s Cold War OOBs - 6/22/2020 12:37:46 PM   
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You can start here: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=1649

This sub-forum contains useful material for design such as orbats and import files for airbases.

You might also want to check the Community pack for scenarios along these lines

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RE: 1950s Cold War OOBs - 6/22/2020 12:45:38 PM   
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Definitely no scenarios like that I've been able to find in the community pack unfortunately. Doesnt seem to be anything immediately relevant to the OOBs at that link. I'll keep searching the interwebs...

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RE: 1950s Cold War OOBs - 6/22/2020 4:12:57 PM   
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Look for "Peeling the Onion, 1957" by Randomizer. Should be in the community pack.

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RE: 1950s Cold War OOBs - 6/23/2020 5:46:56 PM   
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https://www.ww2.dk/new/newindex.htm

This has alot of stuff. Everything except the air force is mainly from the 1960s onwards, but the air force section covers the 1950s fully. It doesn't give numbers of aircraft, but the number of aircraft in a fighter regiment according to Wikipedia is 40-42 (if someone has a more accurate number, feel free to correct me).

For non-Soviet OOBs, I search the aircraft I am looking for on Wikipedia, and go to the "users and operators" section (or whatever it is called). Most of the time, there is a listing of the squadrons that operated it, on the pages for the squadrons it will have their bases and their parent units/formations. I just use generic numbers though. It isn't the most efficient. Someone else probably knows of dedicated websites for Cold War OOBs for different nations but I don't know of any.

You mentioned F-84s, so I am not sure if "Peeling the Onion, 1957" that boogabooga mentioned will necessarily be what you are looking for, however, even if it isn't, not only do I recommend that you play it because it is a good scenario, but also, playing it will give you an idea of the different potential design aspects of a nuclear war scenario.

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RE: 1950s Cold War OOBs - 6/23/2020 10:21:42 PM   
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We'll, he's going to be disappointed, because as of CWDB v478 the Thunderstreaks don't even have nukes as a loadout option.

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RE: 1950s Cold War OOBs - 6/24/2020 5:00:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: boogabooga

We'll, he's going to be disappointed, because as of CWDB v478 the Thunderstreaks don't even have nukes as a loadout option.


My understanding is the Thunderstreak was configured for potentially carrying a Mark 7, but never deployed that way and was not included in strategic planning to carry it. The F-84F was planned to used as a long range escort for B-47s and B-52s.

In contrast, the F-84E/G actually carried the Mark 7 and sat at the end of the runways in British airfields as a nuclear QR force. That went on for a couple years and then the F-100 took over that role for only a short time before the B-58 and F-105 were introduced.

Any nuclear cold war scenario should probably reflect that as a realistic approach.

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RE: 1950s Cold War OOBs - 6/24/2020 5:43:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thewood1


quote:

ORIGINAL: boogabooga

We'll, he's going to be disappointed, because as of CWDB v478 the Thunderstreaks don't even have nukes as a loadout option.


My understanding is the Thunderstreak was configured for potentially carrying a Mark 7, but never deployed that way and was not included in strategic planning to carry it. The F-84F was planned to used as a long range escort for B-47s and B-52s.

In contrast, the F-84E/G actually carried the Mark 7 and sat at the end of the runways in British airfields as a nuclear QR force. That went on for a couple years and then the F-100 took over that role for only a short time before the B-58 and F-105 were introduced.

Any nuclear cold war scenario should probably reflect that as a realistic approach.



I may try to build a scenario like this one day, but if anyone out there who actually knows what they're doing when it comes to scenario creation wanted to tackle this, well, let's just say I won't complain

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