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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/1/2020 2:24:39 PM   
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And their health wasn't low?


If health was low, why would they switch from Mission only to Full Support? That would hurt them, right?

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/1/2020 3:25:28 PM   
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Sorry misread. It went the other direction. I wonder if some files didn't copy over correctly.

Any chance you could do a clean install for me and test this? If it is true then something is off with the installer.
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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/1/2020 11:28:40 PM   
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I have the same problem and USSR is still at peace because sveint hasn't DOW'd yet. All the bombers are therefore 100% for strength and cohesion, and we are both on latest beta. so it must be something else. I have steam version if that's relevant

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/2/2020 12:48:24 AM   
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I am playing in a mirror game 39 scenario pbem with Harrybanana and I finally remembered to check my Russian air units. I too am experiencing the same thing. I set them all to Mission last turn and this turn they are all on Full Support. It is March 1941 and no DOW by Germans yet. All are units that are in good order.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/2/2020 1:09:45 AM   
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So wait is this before or after at war? Is it only when they are neutral?

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/2/2020 1:23:41 AM   
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I'm looking through the code and I find no place where it changes mission to support. I know we had this bug in the past but I fixed it.

I will keep looking though. I am hoping one of you will do the clean install.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/2/2020 7:15:14 AM   
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Alvaro, I deleted the entire Warplan game folder and than did a clean install. In one of my pbem games I reset all my Russian air to Mission Only and at the start of my next turn they were all set to Full Support. I have done the same in my other pbem game and I am waiting for my next turn to see if it worked, but I doubt it. In that game Barbarossa has just started (on March 14, 1941 no less) so I should know soon if they are reverting to Full Support at the end of my turn or my opponent's turn

I also started a 1939 Hotseat game and played until January 1940. In that game my Russian aircraft stayed in Mission Only mode. So either the problem is with pbem or else it doesn't occur until after January 1940.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/2/2020 12:15:43 PM   
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It would have to be with PBEM. But Hot seat and PBEM use same end turn routines. At least I can narrow down the search. Very odd as I nor my PBEM partner have this issue.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/2/2020 3:23:54 PM   
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One more thing to check. This might be a graphical error. When it is your turn see if the support triangle is on but the mode on the unit data is still mission.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/2/2020 9:09:47 PM   
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I can't find where it is doing this and I don't experience it in my PBEM games.
Perhaps this was a recent fix in the current beta and I forgot to put it on my fix list.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 12:44:14 AM   
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The war hasn't begun yet in Russia. I have experienced the same glitch as my pbem opponent for the past 2 turns (since I started checking). It is early April 1941.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 4:42:53 AM   
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OK, so in my pbem game where Barbarossa has started the problem has resolved itself. The Russian air units that I set to Mission Only on the first turn of the Russian invasion were still in Mission Only mode when I began my next turn. No idea why this is happening, but now I don't care. I'll just have to wait until my next pbem game gets to the Barbarossa to see if it fixes itself the same in that game as well.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 1:04:52 PM   
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That is really odd. Ok I keep looking. I just remembered I can setup a test game with myself over PBEM because I have 2 accounts.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 3:39:45 PM   
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When I first noticed this I thought that maybe this was a design decision. If the Russians can't set their air units to Mission Only until the turn after Barbarossa then it gives the Axis a chance to destroy a good number of them (as they did historically) on the 1st Axis turn. Of course, this can be easily circumvented by the Russian player simply moving them out of range.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 4:03:01 PM   
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Not by design. Something else is off. I am testing now.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 4:21:44 PM   
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Ok so it is in my current beta happening and only prewar. Gives me something to fix.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 4:37:49 PM   
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Good news. I found the anomaly.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 5:17:32 PM   
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Good and thank you. But I don't think any of us are using the beta.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 7:23:38 PM   
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Well it will be in the next official patch! And it seems to be only when neutral

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 8:15:35 PM   
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Wow! Congrats and thank you for the tenacity in finding it.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 9:29:55 PM   
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After seeing it for myself I realized it wasn't at the end turn but when the game loaded up via PBEM. It was checking the wrong variable when it loaded an air object to place on the map and flagged the air unit being owned by the A.I.... and the A.I. uses all support modes unless the unit is weak.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/3/2020 9:38:52 PM   
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Wow! Congrats and thank you for the tenacity in finding it.


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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/4/2020 12:08:16 AM   
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Thanks Alvaro!

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/8/2020 5:36:19 AM   
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I am certain it is nothing to do with version and updates.

It is probably a matter of taking certain actions in a certain order and that being something that you are not doing the same way.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/8/2020 5:38:26 AM   
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It was not when neutral, because when neutral I would not have cared and had no reason to change modes. It was only when aircraft had taken heavy losses that I tried to set them to mission only so that they could avoid some losses.

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/8/2020 5:18:40 PM   
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An ETA for the next beta patch correcting this by the way?

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RE: Russian Aircraft won't stay set to "Mission On... - 7/8/2020 9:31:54 PM   
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I think I have enough for this week. The last two had really nothing that important.

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