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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/27/2020 10:12:57 AM   
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There are several

Ike moves North for sure, a couple in the IO Fury series. Med Fury 4 I think, and the next one in the hopper Med Fury 6. There are a few others.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/27/2020 12:35:26 PM   
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quote:

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There are several

Ike moves North for sure, a couple in the IO Fury series. Med Fury 4 I think, and the next one in the hopper Med Fury 6. There are a few others.


Okay, gonna try some of those first. Thanks for answering :)

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/28/2020 1:32:02 AM   
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Hmmm. I just had the 'PL Alpha - USNS Oiler crosses' event trigger, although my closest oiler is 60 nm away from the line. So it's not just the PL Charlie event which is having problems.

Edit: Drat, the Delta line for subs is doing it too.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/28/2020 5:10:15 AM   
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Hmmm. I just had the 'PL Alpha - USNS Oiler crosses' event trigger, although my closest oiler is 60 nm away from the line. So it's not just the PL Charlie event which is having problems.

Edit: Drat, the Delta line for subs is doing it too.

wierd. I wonder, do you play in editor or normal game mode, I'm sort of disappointed I haven't had this happen yet (so I can try and find the cause) but I play 95% of time in the editor.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/28/2020 5:18:59 PM   
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I experienced this in Editor mode.

I reset all the RPs in the events and made sure there were no spillovers, but I think the next thing to do is to delete the events, and triggers and start over again. Not a biggie but it is very curious.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/28/2020 8:45:25 PM   
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I play in editor mode also.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/29/2020 2:36:06 AM   
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Alpha strike on Bodo! Alpha strike on Andoya!

I see by "economy of force" you actually mean "prosecute a series of violent assaults"!

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/29/2020 3:19:46 AM   
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quote:

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Alpha strike on Bodo! Alpha strike on Andoya!

I see by "economy of force" you actually mean "prosecute a series of violent assaults"!

I know right... I'm guessing it's to encourage us to blow the rest of our stores before heading to replenishment. Thing is staying on station doing nothing gets me more points than following that task i think, and I'm so negative it doesn't even seem worth it. Anyway I'm rolling with it anyway just to see if a single munition even gets though.

By the way I'm still on build 1142.2 (once I find a pretty stable version I don't update til I've completed all the runs I started on said build), and play in windowed mode. Are you guys on newer 1143 or 1146.2? Maybe there is a new problem that's gone unreported? Just throwing it out there thinking of differences between us.


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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/29/2020 9:25:41 AM   
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I do believe that those tasks have an 'if feasible' qualifier on them


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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/29/2020 5:28:31 PM   
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eh.. I finally got one for a sub and PL Delta, yet none crossed or came close. Aircraft crossed but definitely not a sub.
querying .areatriggersfired on all units showed "S 300 HMNoS Ula" as the sub and trigger guid:KKF85M-0HLUQF470RAAS, yet that definitely didn't happen. I happen to have a save 10min before it happened, replayed 3 times touching nothing. 12:52:23 ..like clock work which is great for finding out why...
Lat:70.838712531599 Lon:18.565805313617

checking unit: S 300 HMNoS Ula AreaTriggers
{ 1 = 'KKF85M-0HLUQF470RAAS' }
---
Cross checking trigger for Phase Line DELTA':
{ [1] = { UnitEntersArea = { Area = { RPoint3 = { Name = 'Phase Line DELTA-4', Lat = '79.535888671875', ID =
 'kkf85m-0hlujdoah1fh1', Lon = '-19.546318054199219' }, RPoint2 = { Name = 'Phase Line DELTA-3', Lat = 
'79.4698715209961', ID = 'kkf85m-0hlujdoah1fh4', Lon = '-19.687124252319336' }, RPoint1 = { Name = 'Phase Line 
DELTA-2', Lat = '70.2254638671875', ID = 'kkf85m-0hlujdoah1fh3', Lon = '21.283405303955078' }, RPoint = { Name = 
'Phase Line DELTA-1', Lat = '70.2540054321289', ID = 'kkf85m-0hlujdoah1fh2', Lon = '21.416824340820312' } }, LTOA = 
'629311104000000000', ID = '[b]KKF85M-0HLUQF470RAAS[/b]', TargetFilter = { TargetSubType = '0', TargetType = '3', 
TargetSide = 'kkf85m-0hlu85agia384', ID = 'KKF85M-0HLUQF470RAAT' }, Description = 'Phase Line D', ETOA = 
'628995744000000000' } } }

Everything looks fine right?
So I run it past my own inPolygon lua stuff, sure enough it too says the unit is inside by a hair.
Opened up g-earth... plotted the polygon and my sub.
Noticed there is an option to sort of make it absolute to a height or clamped to ground\sea floor.
When up high like 50-80-120k meters it matches the display in the game.
When clamped with the curves of the earth on ground or seafloor, well yup I'm a hair inside the polygon. So the the game engine is correct it seems to do the math based on the ground\globe, the way it shades\displays may be off though using a certain height as it guide for drawing? idk, probably a question for one of the devs.

See attached pics, my game, then the 2 different plotted types in g-earth.

Not sure what work around there is, maybe split the lines into 3 each, maybe smaller sections of only a few hundred miles help offset the difference? Maybe more points in the poly? idk... I'll screw around with it some more now that I have a idea what the problem is.

Good news is nothing is really wrong with the scenario.


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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/29/2020 7:47:33 PM   
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Wow, that's good detective work KnightHawk!

One thought is I could make DELTA an exclusion zone for Subs and Charlie an exclusion zone for surface. Handcuffs the players a bit but not outlandish.

Alpha and Bravo are the real issues because they all involve surface ships and also I want the players to have choice. Might have to think of another way...

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/29/2020 9:27:10 PM   
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Ok, so adding additional points to the polygon helps a ton, the closer together the more accurate it'll stay. I'm finding ~50nm +\- a few is a sweet spot where the variance is <1nm and usually under 1/2 a nm. greater than 60 and it goes up to ~1-1.25nm around the mid point between them.
So for Delta that's about 34 rp's. You could probably get away with 30, or even maybe 24 if you warn the user in the briefing to stay 2nm away from them.

Included a script ( SA_CreateRefpointsFromPointAtoB.txt ) that you can just throw in the console or into a Special action during development that will help you generate ref points from a given point A to a given point B, separated by a given distance, and you can tell it what prefixed name to use, and where you want the counter to start when it tacks on -# to end of name. Just change the very last line to the parameters you want.
For example if you wanted to draw a line from the existing PL Deltas ..first rename the 4 you have so they're actually unique. let's pretend you did that and 1,2 are on Norway, and 3,4 are over in Greenland.

DoRefPoints('NATO','PhaseLineDELTA-2','PhaseLineDELTA-3','PhaseLineDELTA',10,50) -- draw 50nm segments names start at 10 ie 'PhaseLineDELTA-10'
DoRefPoints('NATO','PhaseLineDELTA-1','PhaseLineDELTA-4','PhaseLineDELTA',50,50) -- draw 50nm segments names start at 50 ie 'PhaseLineDELTA-50'

I figure this saves a boat load of time if you want to rework it, or even just play around easily to see if 60nm or 75nm or 45nm is better.
BTW if you want the locked on creation you can just add locked=true to the line that calls ScenEdit_AddReferencePoint.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/29/2020 10:33:53 PM   
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Thanks a bunch,

I'll give it a go tomorrow. Appreciate the help.

If anyone has any other points I'll try and get an update out Sunday.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/29/2020 11:18:49 PM   
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I think your inclination not to use exclusion zones is by far the best choice. I've been seriously contemplating whether I needed to violate the zones to resupply my more northerly ships. So far it looks like I won't, but it's definitely a choice the player should be faced with.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 5/31/2020 11:17:54 PM   
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Has anyone else noticed the Russian interceptors don't seem to be respecting their range limits? In my case, they seem to be launching when valid targets come within a reasonably short range, but they will then set courses to engage far distant targets, such as the E-2s hundreds of miles away over the distant carrier groups, often ignoring closer targets.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/1/2020 8:08:37 PM   
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Well, my usual slow rate of play hasn't improved - here's Day 1!


THE SITUATION

It's carrier wrangling time in cold northern waters, as I'm assigned to herd 10 assorted carrier groups into their patrol zones, see that they're fed, watered, fueled, and generally resupplied, all while maintaining a continuous presence on-station. Oh yes, by the way, you can't send the munitions ships to the carriers, they have to come south to you. There are streams of munitions ships and reinforcements coming up both Atlantic coasts, from as far south as the Mediterranean, a variety of minor task groups in the vicinity of Iceland, and some subs (mostly good SSNs) going to and fro.

The Russians are digging in hard in Norway, and while they're not a major force on the high seas at the moment, they still have the potential to be nasty opponents. Intel warns of multiple submarines about, with the possibility of many coming out of reserve, a Kirov group lurking in home waters, the potential for land-based bomber attacks (still), and, of course, the usual porcupine of SAM and fighter defences over land.

I'm to keep pressure on these forces, despite my dwindling stockpiles of fuel and munitions, and execute any specific tasks in an 'economic' fashion. Many of my munitions are in short supply, particularly TLAMs, and it will be many days before more arrive in-theatre. I do have the option of calling in B-52s to launch CALCMs, but that takes political capital I'd prefer not to spend. I can't, however, ignore the need for tankers, and I pester my superiors until they grant me two sets of tankers, 5 in Iceland, and 5 in the UK.


THE PLAN

My plans in the north are simple. Stay in your zones, patrol quietly, and wait for reinforcements to arrive. The Enterprise and Roosevelt, in the north-eastern corner of the theatre, are in the worst supply condition, so they are ordered to patrol side-by side, on either side of their common zone boundary, in order to provide mutual support if attacked. The other carrier groups will patrol individually, creeping quietly along and listening for subs.

I'm more worried about submarines than any other part of the Russian forces, particularly their SSGs and SSGNs. Those can reach out from a convergence zone and cripple and kill weakly defended munitions ships, even if the subs can't quite make the intercept for a torpedo attack. I'm also mindful that relying on my SAM defences might be problematic, since it takes a trip to Norfolk or Rota to resupply them. So, up north my defence will focus on my fighters, and the carrier CAP, which I normally keep far afield in the expected threat direction, is kept tight over the carriers to be instantly ready for pop-up missile attacks from any direction.

The Atlantic traffic will be guided into two narrow streams, one up each coast, and these paths will be patrolled by P-3s and Nimrods. I don't have enough ASW ships to escort all the freighters individually, so the airplane patrols will have to do. The one isolated freighter full of TLAMs out in mid-ocean is assigned its own dedicated P-3 patrol to give it a full-time escort. I do not want to lose that one.

I'm also sending most of my E-3s to guard the ocean routes, rather than up with the carriers. (Those should have enough E-2s to do the job on their own.) With the E-3s acting as missile lookouts, the isolated munitions ships and small task groups can travel with radars off, significantly reducing the ability of enemy subs to stick up a mast and detect us with ESM. Hopefully, the E-3s will also give us a chance to spot the launch location and launch a counter-attack if any missiles get fired.

I do have some lone munitions ships near Keflavik, and these are ordered to stay put! I do not want them wandering around alone, where they can blunder into some old SS and die. They are not to go anywhere until escorts arrive (probably TG Algonquin) in a few days.


DAY 1

The Svalbard Question

Looking around, I find I'm uncomfortable with the northern Russian radar screen deployed on Svalbard and the islands in the Norwegian sea, and the possibility of Russian aircraft operating out of or through Svalbard is an unnecessary risk. I would like freedom of movement for my vulnerable recce, surveillance, and tanker aircraft in that area, so I can screen for incoming bombers and Bears, and the last thing I need is a MiG-25 or something popping up with an afterburner dash and picking off my slow soft targets.

Therefore, 'Operation Northern Freedom' begins! My last few TLAMs in the region are launched immediately to eliminate the isolated radar stations (ignoring the space surveillance radars in the Globus array, which won't affect me), and then my aircraft start to patrol the vicinity of the island. It turns out that the Russians currently have some older MiG-23s and ASW planes patrolling near Svalbard, and there are several FFLs and patrol boats in the region. Mid-day fighter sweeps from the Roosevelt manage to take care of most of the MiGs, and the French Etendard pilots are quite happy to sink the largely defenceless light craft with Exocets.

In the meantime, preparations are put underway for the three northern carriers to try and shut the Svalbard runways late in the day.


Probing & Orders

With the Svalbard radars down, I start sending some planes around the north coast of Norway, probing to see what's there. ESM shows some tempting looking surveillance planes in the Russian rear, and long-range F-14 operations manage to get some of the ones operating over the ocean, but that provokes a strong reaction. MiG-31s scramble out of Banak, and while my pair of F-14s can kill the first two, they have to flee from another four, flying so low the enemy's missile's can't lock on. The MIGs pursue at high altitude, and I'm forced to stay low, burning fuel far too quickly, until more F-14s arrive to rescue my fleeing fighters. When my pilots get to the tanker they only have two minutes of fuel left. More probes are launched later in the day, proceeding more cautiously with tanker and ESM support, and a few more ELINT Badgers and MiG-31s are shot down.

Fresh orders arrive mid-day, directing me to set up a pair of ASW stations on Greenland and Jan Mayan Land. The relevant task groups are already headed in that direction, so no major changes are required yet. One of my cruisers, the Worden, is being recalled to the States. This is a bit of a loss, but fortunately the cruiser has just refuelled, so it should make the long trip in good time, heading between Greenland and Iceland, and following the 'Western Passage' route, passing my northbound traffic. The biggest new item in the orders is a request for an alpha-strike on Bodo. Resources are limited, but I should be able to muster enough for a good strike after dark.


Oscar!

The Russians don't sit idly by an take my harassment on the chin. The first issue is the discovery of a fast-moving SSN near the Enterprise group, well within the first CZ. An S-3 hurries over to check it out, and it turns out to be an Alfa. This is grim news, because if it dives deep, none of my air-launched torpedoes can reach it. The US Navy immediately starts hollering for the Royal Air Force to send over a Nimrod to rescue them with its deep diving torpedoes, but it's so far away it will take at least half an hour to get there. Fortunately, the Alfa is shallow at the moment, so the S-3 swings in and drops a pair of torpedoes in its path. The Alfa immediately starts dashing for the deep, and the torpedoes follow down into the darkness, There, just before they exceed their depth limit, they manage to hit with meters to spare, and the water pressure does the rest.

The Alfa didn't get a shot off, but that doesn't mean it hadn't done damage. The Alfa had friends, and it had told them where we were. A few minutes later my E-2s start screaming about a cloud of high velocity sea-skimming missiles clearing the horizon from the north-east. Oscar! Fighters from the Enterprise and Roosevelt start dashing to intercept, when the E-2s call again. More missiles, these ones to the north-west! As my planes continue to scramble and intercept the first pack of missiles, it becomes evident that there are only two missiles coming in from the north-west, which is peculiar. Maybe some sort of hasty upgrade of an ancient Echo, Juliett, or Whiskey Long-bin?? There's not much time to consider it further, and my fighters continue to intercept and destroy the incoming missiles. They get them all, at the cost of a significant proportion of my air-to-air missiles, and none of them get close enough to the carrier for me to engage them with SAMs.

Once the fighters have scrambled, S-3s are launched to hunt for the Oscar in the NE, but nothing is found where the missiles were first spotted, so they continue further out along that bearing. While they're doing this, two more missiles appear from the NW, and are shot down, and then two more, and so on. It looks like it really is an Oscar out there, and, for whatever reason, he's firing only two missiles at a time. This is actually very helpful for tracking him down, and F-14s fly along the extended chain of missiles, and eventually spot the launch point. Slow-moving Alizes from the Clemenceau finally arrive on the scene, and quickly manage to localize and sink the massive sub. Meanwhile, the S-3s in the NE have flown all the way out to the limits of the Oscar's missile range and found nothing. They're on their way back to the carrier, pursued by some MiG-23s from Svalbard, when the Oscar blunders under one of their passive sonobuoys half-way along their search path. The S-3s just have time to drop torps on the Oscar as they pass by, with F-14s blasting overhead to engage the pursuing MiGs and pry them off the S-3s' tail. It's a very close call, but it works out in the end.

The final tally is two Oscars and one Alfa sunk, which is very good news, and no SAMs expended. But most AAMs are in extremely short supply now, particularly on the Enterprise, so much so that I'm putting some of my fighters on Ferry missions, just to allow others to get a full loadout.


Late-Day Engagements

As the day progresses, more probes are made along the west coast of Norway. An attempt to run a TARPS bird through Andoya is quickly driven away by a combination of MiG-23s and SA-11s. Another probe down towards Bodo reveals an SA-10 and SA-11 in the region, and Su-27 and MiG-23s in defense. A few of those get shot down, which should help when dealing with Bodo later tonight.

Just before dusk, attack planes from the Ark Royal, Clemenceau, and Roosevelt make a strike on the radarless Svalbard airbase. The plan is for Harriers and Etendards to pop over the hills immediately south of the airbase, and take airbase defences by surprise, while A-6s stand guard with ready HARMs, and others wait for the all-safe to come in with LGBs. My thought was that the small peripheral airbase might have some older medium range SAMs, like SA-6s and SA-8s, or maybe an SA-11. Unfortunately, when the Harriers crest the rise, they find themselves staring at a pair of SA-10s, a pair of SA-11s, and a collection of SHORADS and AAA. Ooops... My pilots push to full power and dash in, releasing cluster bombs moments before the SAMs arrive. Three of the Harriers are cut down before they can escape, but they do manage to wreck the heavy SAMs, and with the help of the French Etendards and incoming HARMs they pummel the remaining defences, allowing the A-6s to wreck the vital airstrip facilities. There should be no more fighter interference from this direction, at least for the next few days.

Not all the action is in the air, as another Russian sub is found operating in the Greenland-Iceland gap. P-3s from the local airbase quickly refine their sonobuoy contact (it turns out to be a Victor) and sink it.


Alpha-Strike Bodo

Once night has fallen the attack on Bodo begins. It's an all-attack-plane event, without my normal TLAM support, and I've decided not to ask for B-52 CALCM help either.

The opening shots come from SLAM-carrying A-6s, which attempt to sneak their missiles up valleys to deal with the two surveillance radars east of Bodo, and over the hills to find the SA-10 and SA-11 located south of Bodo. None of it goes really well. Some get shot down by hidden SAMs (apparently there's an army in those valleys out there - who knew?) , while others get picked off by SHORADS before they can spot their targets.

They do manage to get enemy radars to turn on, however, and that's when my HARM carriers get their chance, salvoing missiles at the SAM sites, and getting good hits on the major elements near Bodo. Unfortunately, they also find there's an SA-20 lurking further east in the hinterlands, and I can't get at it, so Russia still has control of the high altitude band. Low-level Maverick and cluster-bomb attacks by F-18s are next, dashing down the coast and over the hill from the north, while A-6s come in from the south, pummeling the remains of the SAMs and airfield soft targets with Snakeyes. Normally my TLAMs would have soaked up many of the last SHORADS, but that doesn't happen here, and the return fire is deadly. Three of my F-18s are shot down near the airfield, and several more have chunks blown off by AAA, before the bomb hits suppress the air defences. That allows the other A-6s to come in as low as they can with LGBs, cratering runways and taxiways, and putting the base out of operation. As the A-6s turn away, my last few HARMs manage to snipe those two surveillance radars which were supposed to die at the beginning.

Now that the attack is retiring to the carriers, the fighter escort swings north, skirmishing with some Su-27s, and then trying to make a low-level sneak attack on the coastal ASW planes operating near Tromso. That provokes a very strong local response from the three airfields there, which scramble MiG-23s, MiG-25s, and Su-27s to intercept me. My pilots manage to kill some of the MiG-23s, but have to withdraw without getting the flying boat. The Su-27s, with their long-ranged missiles, are definitely a problem, and I'm starting to wonder if I'll need to relax my Phoenix ROEs to get at them effectively.


More to follow...

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/1/2020 9:04:07 PM   
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Bugger - those Oscars were supposed to dump and run! And you got lucky the Alpha found the Enterprise first or the Ark and Clem get a good workout

Thanks for the report.



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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/2/2020 3:57:11 AM   
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Damned Tangos! I knew this would happen. Same wretched subs that got me in NF 12.6...

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/2/2020 9:42:04 PM   
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As the NF story has progressed pretty far at the time this scenario is set i wonder: Has the USN lost any carriers yet? Don't recall it in the briefings and story around it all.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/2/2020 10:00:01 PM   
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I'm not going to say as that will be a bit of a spoiler for the next book.

The HMS Illustrious has been sunk and you may want to play 'Out on a Limb' to get an idea what might - or might not - happen in the story.

Also in the Pacific, one of the Carriers grounds what's left of its air wing and heads home - lack of aircraft, lost escorts etc force the decision. And the USS New Jersey takes a spread of torpedoes...

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/2/2020 10:07:59 PM   
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He said PACIFIC...!

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/2/2020 10:33:33 PM   
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Here's another day of activity.

DAY 2

Things are calm at the start of Day 2. Southern replenishment ships and task groups continue to head north, and two of my northern subs are underway south, headed for refit and resupply in Faslane. The Raleigh and Jeanne d'Arc groups continue heading towards the landing sites for the new ASW helipads, and the Nimitz group is completing resupply. The Roosevelt and Enterprise are in bad shape for munitions, particularly AAMs of all types, but they do have enough to keep a respectable defence in hand.

After some consideration, I decide to move my two northwestern carriers (the Clemenceau and Ark Royal) to the southern end of their patrol zone. They no longer need to attack Svalbard, and the move will put them closer to the resupply ships when the time comes. I'm also getting worried about pop-up cruise-missile attacks on the upcoming ASW heliports. If I keep the little carriers far north then a sub may creep south of me, and I won't be able to intercept the missiles. This move will bring my fighters closer to the targets they need to protect. (Although it does lose me some ground against bomber threats. So far there's been no activity of that kind, fortunately. I had expected a Bear or two sniffing around by this point.)


Fighter Sweep - Andoya

I've been tasked to recce Bodo again tonight (no problem), and Andoya in the afternoon. That's more problematic, since the last time I flew near Andoya there was a determined response from the Russians. I really doubt a TARPs bird would survive the trip. So, I decide to run an early afternoon fighter sweep against the three airbases in the Andoya / Bardufoss / Tromso area, and try and sneak in my recce bird while the fighters are distracted. The Roosevelt and Enterprise are almost black on air-to-air missiles, so the Nimitz sends its entire complement of F-14s and some F-18s, while the Roosevelt and Enterprise provide the jammers. The fighting goes much better than yesterday, and while my fighters are mixing it up with Su-27s and MiG-23s and MiG-25s, the TARPS bird comes in low, led by a pair of F-18s with the Roosevelt's last 4 HARMs. The HARMs kill the Andoya surveillance radar, and manage to wound an SA-11 that pops up, but there are at least two more short-ranged SAMs down there, plus AAA, and the MiGs keep surging out of Andoya. Meanwhile, my fighters are running out of Sparrows, and they have to start looking for ways to disengage. The odds of success are dwindling. Sadly (but probably prudently) the TARPS pilot waves off and aborts the recce only 15 miles away from his target.

So, while the recce itself was a failure, I did manage to get some good information on the Andoya defences (which include an SA-20 on the mainland near Bardufoss, preventing me from doing high level overflights), and claim a good bag of enemy fighters, including three of the very dangerous Su-27s. This will be very useful, since as my fighter sweep was launching HQ sent word that we are to alpha-strike Andoya. That will come tonight.


Skirmishing at Sea

Russian submarine activity is evident throughout the day. First a Nimrod finds a Kilo a few miles behind the Fort Victoria group, which means I had a very close miss here. I have very few deisel-carrying oilers, so the loss of this one would have been significant. Next, TG Alqonquin, patrolling the western ocean route finds a Victor right in front of a cargo ship full of TLAMs. Finally, the Vinson, heading NE to relieve the Enterprise, spots a Tango near Jan Mayan land, where the Baby Ice ASW heliport is due to be set up. All three subs are sunk, but it's a very clear indication that the Russians are still quite dangerous beneath the sea.

I also make efforts to provoke Russian responses up north of Norway, by flying F-14s around in the area, but little comes of the effort. It's not until I get quite close to the shore to shoot down another ELINT Badger that the Russian's finally launch another two MiG-31s out of Banak. But it's only two, and not the aggressive response I provoked yesterday. This is an interesting development. The Russian Mainstays are patrolling over northern Norway, and are conceivably within range of a Phoenix shot without getting too far inland. If the Russians are already running out of fighters there... Hmmmm...


Northern Phoenix

The opportunity is too tempting to miss, so Operation Northern Phoenix begins. Half a dozen heavily laden F-14s take off from the northern carriers, hauling precious Phoenix missiles, and EA-6s, ES-3s, Sparrow-armed F-14s, and tankers go with them. The package arrives off the northern coast of Norway in the late-afternoon sun, and, after a pause for refueling the fighters turn south, closing relentlessly on the orbiting AEW planes. Phoenixes roar off the launch rails, flying deep inland and plunging down on the slow and vulnerable targets. Three are shot down in flames, plus a couple more support Badgers. The F-14s don't get very far inland before an SA-10 opens fire in front of them, but the Tomcats are able to dive low, beneath the radar horizon, and avoid the incoming missiles. (Question: all three Mainstays were patrolling simultaneously. Had you intended that, or only one at a time?)

My attack doesn't go unopposed, and MiG-31s come scrambling up out of Banak, but the Phoenix range advantage pays off, and they are shot down without loss. The F-14s continue shooting as more planes rise to meet them, until somebody finally notices that the last couple of planes aren't MiG-31s at all. They're older MiG-25s, and aren't on the 'approved Phoenix list'. (This embarrassing error is glossed over in the post mission debrief. The admiral is a busy man. We're sure he wouldn't want to be disturbed.) Fortunately, they're nowhere near as capable as MiG-31s, so my pilots manage to tackle them with Sparrows.

One side note to this, is that some of my fighters, diving to low altitude to avoid missiles, spot some sort of commercial (?) ship underway near the coast. What's it doing there?


Alpha-Strike Andoya

Once darkness falls, my alpha-strike package makes its way to Andoya. Andoya is a smaller base than Bodo, isolated on its spit of land, and as far as I can tell it doesn't have the same long-ranged SAM defences as Bodo did, so the strike is smaller.

My leading fighter sweep encounters some resistance from Bardufoss (MiG-23s and 25s), but nothing flies out of Andoya or Tromso, and the few enemy fighters are quickly pushed aside. F-18s with HARMs and Mavericks attack first, suppressing the medium-ranged SAM defences (another SA-11 and some SA-15s and SA-8s), and then another set of F-18s dashes in low, destroying the damaged SAM sites with cluster bombs, then tearing over the airbase itself to savage some of the fighters parked in open revetments. There have to be well over a dozen MiG-23s down there, and it's fortunate they're not yet active, or I could have been in real trouble.

Once the SAMs are knocked down the A-6s come in from safe altitude, avoiding the AAA, and pummel the runways and other base infrastructure with LGBs. There's still plenty of AAA down there afterwards, and trapped aircraft too, but the base itself is not likely to be operational for days.


Supply

Once the Andoya strike is launched and underway, the Roosevelt turns south and starts heading for the replenishment ships. She should get there tomorrow morning, all going well. Her place will be taken by the fully restocked Nimitz. The Enterprise, further north, is actually in worse supply condition than the Roosevelt, but I need her to hold on a little longer. The Vinson is heading her way, and should arrive after dawn tomorrow, at which point the Enterprise can head south too.

Many of my southern replenishment task groups are closing on their destinations just south of PL Bravo, to ready for resupplying the carriers, while others are still working their way up from the south. One thing that has me wondering is the state of the T-A0s, which are going to be accumulating south of PL Alpha. I don’t have a good plan for them yet, and they may just steam back and forth in the ocean until other tankers come back to top up from them.


Upcoming plans

As the day comes to an end, more orders come in from HQ. They want me to look for a cargo ship called the Dralch, which may be the one I spotted up north, and they also want recce runs in the Evenes and Andoya areas. Andoya should be no problem, since I beat up the defences today, but Evenes is still fresh, and presumably there are defences associated with the nearby airbase. It may take some work to get in there, and I may have to hit the base to do it. Also, now that the Mainstays seem to be down, I'm looking at the main Russian search radars with hostile intent. I'd love to knock those down, but I don't have precise enough locations on them to simply hit them with TLAMs. They're still deep in the SAM belt, so they may be out of reach for the moment. Planning staff are put on it. We shall see!

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/3/2020 12:09:56 AM   
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quote:

He said PACIFIC...!


Who did?

Yes the Pacific campaign is plotted out but well down the To-Do list

A Baltic scenario coming out shortly, then probably a couple in the Carib. I'll get all the western hemisphere theaters to about the same stage and then might dip my toe in the big ocean.



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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/3/2020 12:22:26 AM   
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Question: all three Mainstays were patrolling simultaneously. Had you intended that, or only one at a time?)


No they should be up one at a time. Need to fix that.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/4/2020 3:35:38 AM   
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A quick question: Are the tenders docked in Reykjavik intended to stay there, in effect acting like an impromptu naval base?

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/4/2020 5:54:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AndrewJ

A quick question: Are the tenders docked in Reykjavik intended to stay there, in effect acting like an impromptu naval base?

The briefing suggested that they are meant to stay in the bay area I thought (though didn't explicitly say you can't move them). Though after clearing a path for them out of the bay I moved them a bit for more straight forward pathing for others and saved a hour or two for those coming to them, didn't think it went too much against the spirit of the scene after the area was clear of subs. Tip, don't try it till the coast is clear. :)

Btw I love this scenario, it's so involved\complicated in keeping track of what's gonna get moved where and by when and I think has a decent balance in having some challenges in accomplishing that beyond just keeping it all straight. Though it's definitely not for a 'new player' or people that just want to shoot the opponent (though there is clearly plenty of the latter) and not have to worry about the logistics of it all. It's overwhelming at times, but my opinion is was been while playing 'well it's supposed to be!'.

The mainstays. I was of 2 minds when I saw that, either it wasn't intentional (which I figured is wasn't), or it was and all of them getting used at once was on purpose was to create a later time period where they'll all be off refueling at roughly the same time, creating a window from having them on station that might then be exploited by nato side.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/4/2020 10:57:04 AM   
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Hay guys

The tenders are meant to stay 'at Reykjavik', moving them into the bay is fine but has its risks, the hospital ship should probably remain docked with access to the airport, I didn't put in all the C-9 Nightingales but there would be a constant stream of them in and out of Ryk. They are there for a few reasons, none of them critical:

1) To symbolize the USNs once massive mobile port ability
2) To give us another opportunity for a character in either book 2 or 3 (not likely to use)
3) Nobody ever uses these ships and I figured they were in the DB so lets use em...
4) Get you guys thinking on how to use them, which is always interesting.

The multiple Mainstays is an error, I need to fix that. I'm already misusing them, they should be supporting PVO only but the VVS only has 24 Madcap (3 historically) which I think Andrew described as 'staying aloft by the force of pure ugliness' or something like that. There are only 42 Mainstays so not nearly enough, but I am treating them as a strategic and not as single force asset.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/6/2020 2:41:36 AM   
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DAY 3 (MARCH 20 1994)

As Day 3 begins, my two heliport construction groups are closing on their destinations on Jan Mayan and Greenland, the retiring Roosevelt has almost reached the replenishment ships south of PL Bravo, and the Vinson is nearly on station to relieve the Enterprise. The northern French and British carrier groups are down to about half fuel, but their slow creeping ASW search patterns means their fuel consumption is low, and they won't need to refuel for many days yet. My withdrawing SSNs have passed their replacements, who are headed to a patrol zone just south of PL Delta. The ships in the Atlantic are making good progress northwards, although the scattered individual ships who don't have escorts continue to be a concern.


Coastal Shipping

The question of that coastal merchant ship I spotted earlier continues to nag at me, and HQ has expressed an interest in it as well, so an F-14 TARPS bird is sent for a look, accompanied by a few fighters and an ES-3 to do radar surveillance. The radar search finds the merchant quickly enough, and it also finds a second lone ship operating further east. Recce passes show one to be the trawler Dralch, which HQ was looking for, and the other to be a container ship. I'm not sure what the Dralch is doing, as it doesn't seem to be headed anywhere specific. Maybe coastal minelaying? Both ships are under Warpac control, so they're fair game to me. The Etendards on the Clemenceau are given the task, and they fly in with a combination of buddy stores and Exocets to sink both of the ships. (I'm finding Exocets to be really handy for light unopposed anti-shipping work, when I don't want to expend a heavyweight long-ranged Harpoon.) This does provoke another set of MiG-25s to fly up out of Banak, but my escorting F-14s put them down without suffering any losses.

The sinking of the two merchants is good. (Although, come to think of it, HQ said to look for the Dralch, not sink it. I hope they don't mind.) More important, however, is the discovery the ES-3 makes further east along the coast. Radar shows an ominously large task group anchored off Murmansk. While the radar operator is counting ships, the ELINT sensors start picking up radar emissions from patrolling Foxbats operating out of Rogachevo. There's no time to waste, and the plane turns off its radar and hurries away into the darkness.

Presumably these contacts are the Kirov group alluded to in some of the intelligence reports. In its current position, it would only take about ten hours of steaming to get within missile range of my closest carrier group. Fortunately it's not moving at the moment, but I may have to consider a long-range ASM strike before it can get underway and become a problem.


Strike on Evenes

With Bodo and Andoya out of commission, at least for the moment, the most exposed of the enemy airbases is Evenes. HQ has asked for recce runs in the area later in the day. I have already encountered some long-ranged SAMs deployed north of Evenes, so a southern approach seems wisest, but even so I'm not confident a lone recce plane can make it in and out without loss. There's a good surveillance radar nearby, and presumably fighters and more SAMs at the airfield itself. Therefore, I decide to launch a small hasty dawn attack on Evenes, to soften up the local defences and kill the surveillance radar.

The strike is composed of F-18s with LGBs, HARMs, and a few Mavericks, and my intention is to go in above the SHORADS ceiling, hit the runways and SAMs, and retire without going low. It turns out that Evenes is guarded by two SA-11s (okay, suppressed by HARMs), a distant SA-4 to the NNW (not a threat), and a distant SA-10 (too far away to engage me effectively). But the unspotted SA-12 in the mountains to the NE is a real problem, and it launches a huge salvo of missiles at my laser-bombing F-18s, forcing them to go diving wildly towards the deck. Fortunately the fjord walls are tall and steep, and the F-18s are more nimble than A-6s, so they manage to escape below the missile barrage by the narrowest of margins.

My attack doesn't actually kill any of the local SAMs outright, although it wounds most of them, but it does manage to destroy the surveillance radar, and cut the runway facilities at the base. After the bombing, the F-18s go scurrying south through the hills, trying to stay well below the threatening SA-12 radar, and some of them come across an enormous vehicle park nestled in one of the valleys. Calls are made to the carriers, and over the next hours more F-18s arrive with Snakeyes and cluster bombs, and start wrecking the marshalling area.


Fighter Activity

Interestingly, there were no fighters launched from Evenes itself against my strike, so maybe it was a divert airfield, with no fighter presence? There are certainly fighters coming from Bardufoss, however, where numerous old-model MiG-23s start making their presence known, and, after no activity for about a day, I start seeing fighters coming out of Tromso too. This prompts another mid-sized fighter sweep in the Andoya/Bardufoss/Tromso area, which nets a lone Su-27, a few MiG-25s, and a sizeable bag of the older Floggers.

Another sweep heads to the north coast again, with F-14s looking for any more Badger recce planes which might be up. They don't find any (nor have any more Mainstays appeared), so they come inland to attack one of the Su-24s, which prompts two more hidden SA-10 batteries guarding Banak to open fire. That makes three, surrounding Banak in a horseshoe. The F-14s dive to safety, and then get tangled up with some aggressive MiG-25s, but make it out intact in the end. In the meantime, one of my S-3s takes a moment to check up on the Murmansk fleet. It's still there, apparently resting at anchor, so for the moment all is well.


Damned Tango!

It's late-morning when the Russians hand me a serious setback. Urgent radio calls start coming in from one of my T-AOs off the south coast of Iceland, reporting a torpedo impact. The captain orders flank speed and attempts to run, but the second torpedo hits half a minute later, and water comes pouring in the two tattered wounds in the port side plating. Within five minutes the ship has drifted to a halt, rolled over, and sunk.

The ship was one of the lone T-AOs coming up the west Atlantic route, without any escorts. Once she had reached the latitude of Iceland she turned east, intending to anchor off Reykjavik with the other oilers and resupply ships waiting there. She was only three hours from her destination when she met her nemesis, a Tango which had quietly eluded the P-3s patrolling the area. Now that there was a flaming datum the P-3s hurried to the scene, and quickly found and sank the enemy sub, but that was small consolation for the shipwrecked sailors, and no replacement for the lost fuel.

With this wasteful and avoidable loss staring me in the face, I sit down and do what I should have done in the beginning: make a proper plan. MPA patrol zones are tightened up, coordinated, and adjusted, lone resupply vessels are directed to form small convoys (even if it means delays), and warship task group courses are adjusted to improve cover for the oilers. In some cases the resources simply aren't there to protect everything immediately, but I've at least got a better plan to get them to places of safety, rather than simply crossing my fingers and hoping for the best.


Helicopter Bases

By mid-day my two task groups have arrived at their helicopter bases at Jan Mayan and Greenland, and while the main cargo and logistics ships anchor to begin unloading, the escorting warships start patrolling the immediate area for subs. The ASW helicopters transfer to the bases, and begin deploying an east-west barrier patrol, although 'barrier' might be a strong word. I've got it set up so each helicopter has a 50 mile wide zone to hunt in, and since you only get about three miles each way from a dipping sonar, there's clearly plenty of room for a sub to slip through. Still, it's better than nothing.

It's going to take several days to fully set up the helicopter bases, and my anchored ships (and the bases themselves) will be vulnerable during that time. The Jan Mayan base gets an F-14 CAP, TG Whitney steams to a location along the most likely cruise missile approach path, and S-3s are set to patrol the general area all around the island. It seems like reasonable defences are in place.

The Greenland base, however, has a peculiar problem. The edge of the pack-ice is there, and although I have the Canadian O-boat SS patrolling there, as well as the surface warships from the task group, none of them can operate under the ice. So, there's a clear, unobstructed under-ice route for an SSN to get into the area, without being detected in advance. The more I look at it, the more it seems to be a big highway with a "this way to defenceless victims" sign painted on it. The closest sub I have is the SSN Groton, which was headed north to start patrolling the gap left by the other subs which are returning to Faslane. It's captain is ordered to turn the sub around and head SW at high speed, to begin patrolling the ice-approach route as soon as possible.

The Greenland base is also so far from the carriers that it is difficult to provide fighter cover for it. Planning staff are currently considering whether to send the Enterprise group in that direction after refuelling, or perhaps detach some of its fighters to provide CAP by operating out of Iceland. Additional MPA cover should also be available once TG Algonquin gets its valuable freighter of TLAMs to Reykjavik.


Afternoon Activity

The noon briefing brings word that HQ is requesting SEAD activity around Bardufoss, which is the most heavily defended of the central Norwegian bases. There's a pair of SA-10s near the coast guarding the most obvious ingress routes, an SA-11 just N of Bardufoss itself, and an SA-12 and an SA-20 further inland, along with several long-range surveillance radars. And those are just the ones I'm aware of. Effective SEAD against this array would be a major effort, and costly in terms of HARMS and PGMs (which I want to preserve for an attack on the Kirov group). Planning staff are set to work examining the options.

Meanwhile, the Roosevelt group has finally completed reloading, and is heading north again, while the Enterprise group is headed south for its turn at the tankers.

In the early afternoon, another recce-run is made on Evenes, overflying the battered truck park, before more F-18s with Snakeyes come in from the south to to complete the destruction. Another two flights of F-18s are sent in to finish off the pair of damaged SA-11 batteries to the east of Evenes. One of them gets fired on by an SA-15 guarding the northern ingress route, but it's a long-ranged shot, and the missiles fall short as the F-18s dash away across the fjord and into the mountains again.

Late-afternoon sees a small fighter sweep go into the Andoya / Bardufoss / Tromso area again, but this time there is no fighter response of any kind, only a few shots from the SA-10 near Tromso. This bodes well for any upcoming SEAD activity in the area.


Small Convoy

The 1800 intel briefing comes in, with indications that the Soviets may be positioning themselve to pull back from their most southern extent, which is encouraging news. There is also mention of a small convoy underway in the east somewhere, possibly headed for Rogachevo (which I am unlikely to be able to interfere with) or even Svalbard (which would be a suicide run - if I can spot it). An S-3 and some F-14s are sent out for a coastal reconnaissance, and they find it slowly coming along the coast, just passing Murmansk – four tightly spaced central targets and three escorts. Alert the French!

It takes a few hours to arrange, but, with the help of the VC-10 tankers out of Lossiemouth, the Clemenceau's complement of Etendards is sent east, each of them carrying one Exocet missile. Periodic radar checks by the S-3 show the convoy has continued slowly along the coast, at a mere 5 knots. The three escorts are on the front and flanks of the convoy, so the Etendards swing in from the undefended rear side, launching their missiles in succession through the gap in the coverage.

All four of the central cargo ships are struck and sunk (or I assume they are cargo ships - I never got close enough for an accurate ID), as is one of the Grisha escorts. The other two escorts (a Grisha and a Krivak) mill around uncertainly, while the Etendards turn about and fly back towards their tankers. There are MiG-25 radars coming from the direction of Rogachevo again, and it is time to leave. As it turns to fly home, the S-3 gets a last contact on the Murmansk task group, still sitting stationary at the extreme edge of radar cover.


Soviet Subs

Early in the evening my ASW precautions start to pay off. After numerous false contacts and biologicals in the Jan Mayan area, one of the escorts in TG Whitney gets a direct-path hit on a submerged contact headed south. The S-3s close in, identifying it as an SSK of some sort, before sinking it with a well-placed Mk 50. I'm not sure whether it was headed for the task group or the ships unloading at the new helicopter base, but, in any case, I'm glad it's gone.

Several hours later another sub is spotted in the Greenland-Iceland gap, cruising southwards at modest speed. It turns out to be an Akula, which had the misfortune to travel directly under a passive sonobuoy. The P-3 on patrol claims this one, although it takes three torps to finally sink it.


Bardufoss SEAD and Strikes

Much of the night is occupied by a series of strikes aimed at reducing the air defenses in the Bardufoss area, and along the NW Norwegian coast. Strike aircraft are called in from all four nearby American carriers (even the stores-hungry Enterprise finds something to contribute). The Clemenceau is busy hitting the convoy, but the distant Arc Royal manages to send its last two attack Harriers, and tankers and ELINT planes are brought in from Iceland and the UK to support the effort.

The first phase concentrates on knocking down Soviet air surveillance radars near the coast. A pair of TLAMs come flying down the fjord to knock out the Big Bird radar ENE of Bardufoss, and a pair of F-18s come in low with Snakeyes to wreck another radar further east. Unfortunately, it seems that for every radar I kill, I find another one, so the overall coverage isn't completely eliminated.

Another flight of F-18s comes in low from the north, planning to attack the hilltop radar W of Tromso, and then carry on to bomb the SA-10 one hilltop further south, but it turns out the area is much too heavily defended to do all that. The pilots manage to kill the radar and an SA-11 battery, but in the process they are fired on by two more SA-11s, and three SHORADS. Their glimpse of the Tromso airbase shows at least 20 planes on the ground, plus whatever's under cover, and they radio the update back to HQ as they duck down behind the hills again and head back out to sea.

Fortunately, none of those aircraft seem to be flight-ready yet, and the patrolling F-14s don't spot any interceptors, either from Tromso, Bardufoss, or even the more distant Banak.

The main strikes reach the Bardufoss area shortly afterwards, flying in from the west, just north of the battered Andoya airfield. The first blow falls on the coastal SA-10 there, distracting it with HARMs, before low-level F-18s finish it off with cluster bombs. As the HARM-carriers (both F-18s and A-6s) loiter uncertainly over the coast, probing shots with SLAMs and BOL HARMs start prompting more SAMs to reveal themselves; a total of three SA-11s and some SHORADS around Bardufoss, a pair of new SA-10s (actually SA-12s, it turns out) in the valleys south of the airbase, and a probable third one somewhere near the coast to the north. The SA-20 is still keeping quiet.
HARM barrages are fired towards the SA-11s, doing some damage, but the SA-12s prove to be problematic targets. They need only brief moments of terminal illumination, so the HARMs have great difficulty getting a good signal to fire at. The real stars of the show turn out to be the low-level F-18s, who go hurtling down the valleys using their night vision, killing both SA-12s, finishing off an SA-11, destroying a newly found SA-6, and pressing on to hunt the SA-20.

Some things don’t go well. The pair of Harriers come rushing down dark waters of the Lyngen Fjord from the north, and drop a brace of retarded bombs on the SA-12 near the base of the fjord, destroying most of the battery. Turning about they vanish into the darkness, retiring back up the fjord at wavetop level. The pilots are confident they’ve made their escape, until one Harrier abruptly explodes, struck down without warning by an optically-fired SA-6 they didn’t notice on the way in. I now have only one operational attack Harrier, which is grim news for the squadron.

In any case, the high altitude SAMs around Bardufoss are eventually destroyed, allowing my Maverick-carrying F-18s to come in above the SHORAD ceiling and eliminate the SA-15s and SA-8s guarding the base. With those gone, F-18s with LGBs are called in to destroy the runways and a few of the airfield facilities. Bardufoss is shut, trapping 6 planes that I can see, and whatever else is in its network of shelters and caves.

I had also hoped that I might shut Tromso as well, and although I damaged many of its surrounding medium and heavy SAMs, its SHORADS was still completely intact. I suspect my odds of getting the enough LGBs through the missile screen would be remote, so I reluctantly send the remaining bombers home, taking their LGBs with them.


Late Night Situation

As the night draws to a close, the situation is looking better. Although I have lost a T-AO, I seem to have crippled the Soviet air force for the moment, and largely eliminated the major SAM threat in NW Norway. Bodo, Evenes, Andoya, Bardufoss, and Svalbard are all shut by cratered runways, and although there are more planes at Tromso and presumably at Banak, none are flying at the moment. Soviet coastal shipping has been struck a heavy blow, losing their small convoy and two independent merchants, and the Murmansk task group seems to be holding still for now.

My carrier situation is greatly improved, with the Roosevelt, Nimitz, and Vinson all on station with good munitions loads. Enterprise is essentially a spent force, but it will begin UNREP in a couple of hours, and the completely fresh Kennedy should be arriving mid-day tomorrow.

HQ has sent some late-night orders for recce tasks tomorrow, and all of them should be feasible. We will see what the day brings.

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/6/2020 10:51:59 AM   
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Thanks Andrew. Are you starting day 4 or day 5?

Need to keep you busy for another 5 or 6 days...hmmm

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RE: New Scenario for Testing NF #41 Tour de Force - 6/6/2020 12:30:32 PM   
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I'm starting Day 4 now. At the moment, plans include a visit to Tromso to try and finish off the low-level SAMs and shut the runways, and then a serious look at a raid on the Murmansk TG. (Plus guard and refuelling duties, naturally.)

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