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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 8:39:27 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 8:56:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		The submarines evade pattern after pattern of depth charges, resulting in the cruisers and accompanying destroyers, ammunition exhausted, returning to port ...




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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 9:00:26 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 9:05:59 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 9:07:55 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 9:09:30 PM   
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Gibraltar is still abort port.

CW stay.

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 9:14:05 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 9:16:54 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 9:26:57 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/30/2020 9:35:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		The subs emerge from the ocean depths in a further attempt to engage but find an empty horizon (searches: Axis 8, Allies 3). They return to La Spezia to lick their wounds.

Low cloud and rain spattered canopy's don't do much for dive bomber accuracy.




That's it for this evening.

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/31/2020 11:20:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rail Movement:

5-5MOT Fredrikshaven to Saarbrucken

Land Movement:

Germany

(1) 9-4 INF and (2) 8-4 MOT to 51,33
(3) 105mm ART to 49,46
(4) 1-3 INF DIV to 51,45
(5) 6-4 INF to 49,45

In Italy Grazziani moves slightly SW. Italian supply unit ventures out into the Sudan.

In the north of China, the Japanese assume a more defensive posture.




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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/31/2020 11:30:45 AM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/31/2020 11:49:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Germany announces two combats at Warsaw and Liege. Von Leeb is called on for HQ support at Warsaw and a Do-17 adds air support at Liege. The Do-17 returns to Cologne.

The low, rain sodden clouds affect the quality of radio transmissions. By the time the message to Von Beck has passed through several different decoders before reaching him, it reads something along the lines of send three and fourpence, we're going to a dance. In the resulting confusion, the attack goes in without the General (10 rolled for HQ Support).




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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/31/2020 11:57:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		The defence of Liege crumbles in the face of overwhelming odds and the city is occupies by an 8-4 MOT and 8-6 MECH.

Despite the initial confusion, the assault on Warsaw goes in without further hitches. The capital is occupied by two armoured corps and engineers.




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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/31/2020 12:04:21 PM   
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Fighters in NW Germany to (1) Liege and (2) 51,33

No reorganisation.

Turn ends on a 1 (less than 4 needed).

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/31/2020 2:20:10 PM   
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Impulse: End of Turn Shenanigans (Germany)

Neutrality Pact:
2 x defensive please

Oil Situation:
2 x Oil from the USSR (both saved in Berlin)
2 x Oil from Romania (both saved in Berlin)
1 x Oil from Germany (saved in Berlin)
1 x Oil from Austria (to production in Munich)

3 x Oil last turn so should be 8 less what is required to reorganise
15 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

Stay at Sea:

None except convoys

Return to Base:

NAV to 46,36
Fleet to Stettin

Oil Reorganisation:

All reorganised except Schliesen, Schleswig-Holstein, Scharnhorst, Hipper and Blucher for 2.0 points (2 Oil). Use two Saved Berlin oil. This should leave the third originally saved Oil in Berlin for the Italians to partially use.

Breakdown: None

Production:

Scrap Do-17E

3 x PIL
2 x LND (2)
1 x FTR (3)
1 x SUB Cons
1 x SUB

Conquest:

Heemskerck - a 9 is thrown and goes to Germany

Factory Destruction:
Liege

Reinforcement:

Germany assigns the Bf-109-E4
Aachen: 6-3 INF, Bf-109-E4, 2-6 ARM
Cologne: 4-2 ART

Remove the Do-17M to the Reserve Pool

Trade Agreement:
To Italy
1 x Resource (1 x Oil)
3 x Build Points

Memo Item:

6 x Oil (6 x Berlin)
0 x Saved BP
0 x Pilots

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/31/2020 2:31:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		S/O 39 End of Turn Orders - Japan and Italy.

Prelim Production.

Italy saves the Rumanian oil in Milan. Gives 2 BP's

Japan - The Hainan resource needs sending to Canton. Save both DEI oils in Tokyo. Should give 10 BP's.

Stay at Sea/RTB

Italian ships in West Med return to La Spezia. Convoys stay out.

Japan convoys only and all stay.

Oil Use

Tick to cooperate in sharing oil.

Italy reorganises all but BB Guilio Cesare for 1.45. Spend the oil in Milan then take the remaining .45 from one of the German oils.

Japan reorganises the two aircraft, the 4-4 TRANS and the cruiser for 0.45, nil spent.

No break downs.

Italy scraps the San Giorgio.

Production

Italy - 2 BP's

Scrap Ba.65
Build NAV-2.

Japan - 10 BP's

CVP-0
MIL
TERR
Pilot
AMPH
CP

Reinforcements

Italy - leave pilot in reserve. MOT to Turin.

Japan - MIL. TERR to Changchung.

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/31/2020 2:57:47 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 5/31/2020 4:06:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		In order to move the game along (as the Allies don't seem to be around) I am going to roll for the partisans (potential for at least Germany to be affected here).

1. Communist Chinese 1-1 Partisan picked

Throws
Active Check
12
26
48
95
69
70
88
48

Garrison
2

Pick Partisan
3
5

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/2/2020 2:33:45 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/2/2020 3:23:05 PM   
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Japan - The Hainan resource needs sending to Canton. Save both DEI oils in Tokyo. Should give 10 BP's.

Due to a Chinese partisan on a resource, this oil configuration only delivers 9 BPs. Should one less oil be saved? Or should Japan change the builds? Or any other variant?

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/2/2020 3:36:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Orm

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Japan - The Hainan resource needs sending to Canton. Save both DEI oils in Tokyo. Should give 10 BP's.

Due to a Chinese partisan on a resource, this oil configuration only delivers 9 BPs. Should one less oil be saved? Or should Japan change the builds? Or any other variant?


Thought that might happen. Send one of the DEI oils to production, thanks.

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/2/2020 3:49:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wonder why the program always wants to save the NEI oil in Ominato. It is frustrating. And it forces me to use override. Even in the first production step.

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/2/2020 4:08:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Orm

I wonder why the program always wants to save the NEI oil in Ominato. It is frustrating. And it forces me to use override. Even in the first production step.
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Wasn't he one of the Wombles?



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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/2/2020 4:10:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Orm

I wonder why the program always wants to save the NEI oil in Ominato. It is frustrating. And it forces me to use override. Even in the first production step.
warspite1

Wasn't he one of the Wombles?



No idea. I have no clue when it comes to bats.

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/2/2020 5:17:22 PM   
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I am taking a break from end of turn. For some weird reason I used to think end of turn was fun. Don't know what I was thinking. The production system is borked with defaults that no one has ordered and can't be removed, so they must be overwritten all the time. Convoy routes that was changed that the program can't remember even though not even one CP has moved. And then there is the worst, traded resources. It feel like the program is fighting a war with me. I learned how to avoid most of these pitfalls.

And done all that I reach the oil reorganization step and wonders why a oil seems to have disappeared from Germany. Germany had 3 oils in Berlin, used two to reorganize for, and when it came to Italy they wanted to use little oil from Germany, and the program listed Berlin, once, as containing zero oil. first time I've seen a 0 oil listed before I begun reorganization. Hoped that it would return after the step. But it was a forlorn hope.

So now I am talking a walk to calm down.

And hope that I do not break things further by using a end of turn save. Because that has caused errors in my games before.

Rant over.



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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/3/2020 7:57:49 PM   
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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/3/2020 7:59:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Allies end of turn: (note that there can be errors in this since I had to redo things, and might have messed it up either in writing or in action)

USSR place the pact marker in the offensive pool.

USA draw one entry marker and place it in the Japanese pool.

USA plays "resources to China" for no tension (8).

Preliminary planning:
CW - 21 production points - 11 BPs.
France - 9 production points - 9 BPs.
USA - 40 production points - 11 BPs.
USSR - 23 production points - 8 BPs
China - 7 production points - 5 BPs.

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

CW:
Convoy escorts in 1 and 4 boxes
Almost all CPs
North Sea: BB + CL
East Med: 2 x CA

France:
CL in North Sea

USA:
All CPs

USSR:
CPs

Return to Base:

France:
2 x SUB -> Syria
TRS + CL -> Dakar

CW:
2 x SUB -> Malta
TRS + TERR -> Gibraltar
TRS + INF -> Port Said
2 x TRS -> Plymouth
Liner -> Plymouth
Fleet (West Med) -> Gibraltar
Fleet (North Sea) -> Plymouth
Fleet (East Med) -> port Said

USA:
SUB -> Midway

Use Oil:

USSR:
All units are reorganized for 0 oil (0.45).

CW:
All units are reorganized for 4 oil (4.25).

France:
All units, except 2 x BB + 2 x SUB + 4 x CP, are reorganized for 1 oil (1.00). Edit: Forgot to add that one HQI remains disorganized.

USA:
All units, except 5 x BB, are reorganized for 0 oil (0.4).

China:
No units are reorganized for 0 oil (0.0).

Breakdown: -

Prod plan Final:
zzzz

Scrap: -

Production:
China (5):
CAV Div
2 x MIL

CW (11):
INF
Pilot
FTR2
TRS (1st)
CP
CL Naïad (2nd)

France (9):
3 x MIL
Pilot
Save 1 BP in Paris

USA (11):
CV (1st)
Pilot
TRS (1st)
2 x BB (1st)
CVP1

USSR (8):
INF
LND4
SAve 1 BP in Moscow

Germany conquers Poland, Denmark, and Netherlands. Although Netherlands continue the fight from Australia
Italy conquers French Somaliland.

Reinforcements:

CW:
LND3 -> London
NAV2 -> Hull
NAV2 + CP -> Liverpool
CVP1 -> Bristol
BB -> Plymouth

France:
MIL -> Bordeaux
MIL -> Metz
MIL -> Dakar
FTR2 -> Lyons

USA:
CA + 2 x CL -> Norfolk

China:
MIL -> Kunming

China (Com):
MIL -> Lanchow

USSR:
Remove 5 aircraft

Voluntary Resource Lending:
CW -> France: 4 resources, 1 oil
CW -> China: 1 oil
USA -> China: 1 resource

Note: France had planned to build the Marseilles MIL. But it is missing from the force pool. Suspected bug. Changed it to a pilot to continue faster.

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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/3/2020 8:05:26 PM   
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New Turn

Allies win the initiative (Axis 7 +1, Allies 9). At least the first round. Will Axis demand a reroll and have a second go at winning the initiative?





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RE: Rematch of the Centrury - Sweden (Allies) vs Englan... - 6/4/2020 5:49:32 PM   
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