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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/20/2020 5:00:32 PM   
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Game 2

The Germans will do a land. Nothing until Rail Movement. Let's discuss this when you come to it.


The discussion forum for rail movement is open!

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/20/2020 5:11:54 PM   
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Okay I need units in the west BUT I think with the CW entrenched, we need to put the pressure on in the south. So if you want a couple of units then go ahead.

The alternative is to let the Germans take two/three this turn and when the Italians vacate Turin, the Germans move in next turn.

Up to you.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/20/2020 5:15:38 PM   
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Okay I need units in the west BUT I think with the CW entrenched, we need to put the pressure on in the south. So if you want a couple of units then go ahead.

The alternative is to let the Germans take two/three this turn and when the Italians vacate Turin, the Germans move in next turn.

Up to you.


I think the second option makes sense. I'll move out of Turin.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/20/2020 5:17:34 PM   
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Okay I need units in the west BUT I think with the CW entrenched, we need to put the pressure on in the south. So if you want a couple of units then go ahead.

The alternative is to let the Germans take two/three this turn and when the Italians vacate Turin, the Germans move in next turn.

Up to you.


I think the second option makes sense. I'll move out of Turin.
warspite1

Sehr Gut.


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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/20/2020 5:20:46 PM   
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Okay I need units in the west BUT I think with the CW entrenched, we need to put the pressure on in the south. So if you want a couple of units then go ahead.

The alternative is to let the Germans take two/three this turn and when the Italians vacate Turin, the Germans move in next turn.

Up to you.


I think the second option makes sense. I'll move out of Turin.
warspite1

Sehr Gut.



Si but where to this turn?

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/20/2020 5:23:24 PM   
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Okay I need units in the west BUT I think with the CW entrenched, we need to put the pressure on in the south. So if you want a couple of units then go ahead.

The alternative is to let the Germans take two/three this turn and when the Italians vacate Turin, the Germans move in next turn.

Up to you.


I think the second option makes sense. I'll move out of Turin.
warspite1

Sehr Gut.



Si but where to this turn?
warspite1

The 7-4 in Lodz and the 3-3 ART + the 6-4 in Danzig steam into Liege bitte


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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/20/2020 7:32:34 PM   
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Game 1

With things not looking good in China, USSR is going to call for Bessarabia asap in the new turn then shift the LND-4 eastwards. We could do with another chit in the Ja pool as I want to be able to DoW Japan with USSR. Possibly, when the Allies see this, plus a second LND-4 appearing at Vladivostok from the reserves (once the pilot is built), they might do a preemptive DoW but that has a good chance of gaining us a chit.



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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/21/2020 8:35:38 AM   
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With things not looking good in China, USSR is going to call for Bessarabia asap in the new turn then shift the LND-4 eastwards. We could do with another chit in the Ja pool as I want to be able to DoW Japan with USSR. Possibly, when the Allies see this, plus a second LND-4 appearing at Vladivostok from the reserves (once the pilot is built), they might do a preemptive DoW but that has a good chance of gaining us a chit.


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Sure ting. I think that if you are going to attack then this is risky as the French are probably toast early summer. But then if you don't then China could be toast too.... ah decisions, decisions.... and none of them pleasant....

I'll put the Chit in the Japan pool and leave to you to decide....


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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/26/2020 4:33:33 PM   
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Any thoughts on what to do next? I think it would be a crime to waste a clear turn, but I don't want to waste an offensive chit either and my bomber strength is not great...... Defo time to get some German presence in the Alps

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 10:33:14 AM   
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Unless you are planning on using it on Paris, I don’t think using an O-chit now would be wasting it. This could be the last fine impulse until M/J 40. At which point, the line will at best be the same but possibly further reinforced. Depends on how successful we are in the south. Whether or not you use the chit, you need to attack. We’re coming to the end of the turn so you can afford to risk lower odds attacks.

Italy will have a go at Marseille. With navy and air support, think I can get 3:1.

Japan will be land and attack the partisan plus at least one in the south.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 10:56:01 AM   
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Unless you are planning on using it on Paris, I don’t think using an O-chit now would be wasting it. This could be the last fine impulse until M/J 40. At which point, the line will at best be the same but possibly further reinforced. Depends on how successful we are in the south. Whether or not you use the chit, you need to attack. We’re coming to the end of the turn so you can afford to risk lower odds attacks.

Italy will have a go at Marseille. With navy and air support, think I can get 3:1.

Japan will be land and attack the partisan plus at least one in the south.
warspite1

The Germans will do a Land. No offensive chit. Both stukas and an He-111 (2-factor) in front as ground strike. No escort (I will let you know the interceptors if the French decide to get fresh).

Rail movement the 7-3 and the 6-4 to Turin and the AT to Aachen.

Then over to the Germans for movement.


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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 10:57:53 AM   
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Which hexes for the ground strikes?

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 10:58:50 AM   
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All on 53,31 please

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 10:59:21 AM   
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Peskpesk you are not supposed to be looking at this thread!

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 11:01:49 AM   
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Good weather throw in the other game!

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 11:08:37 AM   
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Good weather throw in the other game!
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Well it was certainly better than a smack in the face with a heavy, blunt instrument....



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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 1:00:58 PM   
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Looks like the French want to rumble. Which of the gallant Luftwaffe will rise to the occasion?

Edit: I've sent you the file so you can run your air combat.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 4:20:03 PM   
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I presume all six units that could attack are going to. Are the Germans adding any ground support?

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 4:25:52 PM   
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I presume all six units that could attack are going to. Are the Germans adding any ground support?
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Yes, the plan is to attack with all six. Can you just confirm the odds please? I will then add aircraft (or not) dependent upon what the French can counter with. Thanks


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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 4:31:28 PM   
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I presume all six units that could attack are going to. Are the Germans adding any ground support?
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Yes, the plan is to attack with all six. Can you just confirm the odds please? I will then add aircraft (or not) dependent upon what the French can counter with. Thanks



Odds are 34:14. They could bring the LeO 451 to give potentially 17. You have up to 7 (He-11 for 4, Bf-110 for 3 and Bf-109 for 1). Only fighter in range to counter-intercept is the Bf-110 but that takes it out of the equation for ground support. Bf-109 and He-112 could fly escort.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 4:35:10 PM   
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So barring a miracle on fractionals that's 2:1 anyway - so no aircraft for me and no interception. Thanks.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 4:42:47 PM   
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So barring a miracle on fractionals that's 2:1 anyway - so no aircraft for me and no interception. Thanks.


With seven points added, you would be at 41:14, only a whisker away from 3:1 (depending on what the LeO 451 does and whether it gets though any escort you fly). I think it might fly south on extended range to aid Marseilles.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 4:47:40 PM   
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Well if it helps the Italians I don't mind a 5-factor Bf-109 escorting a He-111 - but nothing else even if the French react with a fighter

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 4:56:21 PM   
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Well if it helps the Italians I don't mind a 5-factor Bf-109 escorting a He-111 - but nothing else even if the French react with a fighter


It might be the opposite. The escort could swing them to help out at Marseilles where they can't be intercepted. If you don't send anything, they might take a chance against the Bf-110 as it will be +0.

However, the He-111 does give you a pretty decent fractional roll and this is probably the more important attack.

Final thoughts?

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 4:59:54 PM   
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Bf-109 (5-factor) and the He-111 please.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 7:08:49 PM   
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Sorry but having lost another 10 points, vs 2 for the French, in air battles I had the advantage in I couldn't face throwing for that attack.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 7:16:06 PM   
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It was hairy.

I know what you mean about air battles. I seem quite often to manage to come off worst despite starting out with a useful advantage (just as here ).

Overall though not bad. After all those 8's and 10's in the ground strike and then another 10 in HQ Support, I was anticipating things going somewhat more pear shaped than they did.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 7:42:00 PM   
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Game 1

France and China land.

Nothing for France or Russia until rail movement.

Any chance of getting another unit to Belgium? TRANS from Gib' would get to North Sea 1-box. Probably needs a bit more escort. Once there, it will also provide supply.

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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/27/2020 9:03:17 PM   
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Game 1

France and China land.

Nothing for France or Russia until rail movement.

Any chance of getting another unit to Belgium? TRANS from Gib' would get to North Sea 1-box. Probably needs a bit more escort. Once there, it will also provide supply.
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Would you be looking for the British to move out of Antwerp to hold a solid line? I think I would prefer them to stay (not least because I can't retreat into France). But yes I need to get Antwerp into supply and so will look to get another unit there.


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RE: We are going to stamp all over one's Blau Swede Schuhe - 6/28/2020 9:11:51 AM   
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Hold Antwerp. Gives you the option of getting them back out as and when the line collapses further south. They'll be in supply for the remainder of this turn due to the TRANS but probably a good idea to put a CP in North Sea before the end of the turn if possible.

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