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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/3/2020 12:32:49 PM   
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The CVP on the Bearn rebases to Nantes.

No reorgs.

Turn ends on a 1 (less than 4).

No partisans.

How do the Germans wish to place their pact markers?


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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/3/2020 12:35:23 PM   
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One each.

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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/3/2020 12:51:55 PM   
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USSR places its marker to defence.

US puts a chit into the Ge/It pool.

Having played a useful role in the opening phase of the war, the Bearn is handed over to the US for internment. The US promptly rips it apart and converts it into a naval transport. For some reason, the Germans and Italians get particularly annoyed about this (2 rolled, chit shifted into the Ge/It tension pool).

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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/3/2020 1:47:05 PM   
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France, China and USSR End of Turn instructions.

Production

China - Good as is for 5.

France - Move the oil in Bayonne to Bordeaux. Oil from Iraq saved in Beruit. Gives 4.

USSR - Save the oil from Tiflis at Alma Ata. Gives 8.

Stay at Sea/RTB

French CA/CL's stay at sea, except for Jeanne D'Arc. The BB's and CL return to Marseilles.

Oil Use

China reorgs Mao - 0 oil used.

France reorgs Georges, A-22, TRANS, Dunkerque, Strasbourg and Bretagne - 1 oil expended.

No scrap for China.

Production

China - MIL x2, Cav Div.

France - MIL x2

USSR - INF x2, Pilot.

Reinforcements

France - MILS. Remove CVP to reserve pool.

USSR - MILS,


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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/3/2020 4:43:53 PM   
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Losses for Sep/Oct 1939




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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/4/2020 10:00:07 AM   
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Axis end of turn:

Preliminary planning:
Germany - 22 production points - 15 BPs. Save 5 oil. 1 in Berlin, and 4 in Prague.
Italy - 3 production points - 2 BPs. Save one oil in Milan.
Japan - 14 production points - 10 BPs. Save 5 oil. 1 in Canton, and 1 in Tokyo.

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

Germany:
Baltic Sea: 4 x CPs.

Italy:
-

Japan:
Sea of Japan: CP
Japanese Coast: 5 x CP
China Sea: 7 x CP
South China Sea: 3 x CP
The Marianas; CP

Return to Base:

Germany:
Baltic Sea: NAV3 -> 47,35

Italy:
East Coast: SUB -> La Spezia
CSV: SUB -> La Spezia

Japan:
China Sea: CA + 2 x CL + 3 x TRS -> Fukuoka

Use Oil:

Germany:
All units are reorganized for 3 oil (2.8). Use 3 oil in Berlin.

Italy:
All units are reorganized for 0 oil (0.4).

Japan:
All units, except AMPH and 2 x CL (Jintsu + Kinu) are reorganized for 1 oil (1.45). Use 1 oil in Niigata.

Breakdown:
Japan:
CAV -> CAV Div + MOT Div

Prod plan Final:
Germany - No changes needed - 15 BPs
Italy - No changes needed - 2 BPs
Japan - No changes should be needed - 10 BPs

Scrap:
-

Production:
Germany (15):
MIL
FTR3
2 x LND2
3 x Pilot

Italy (2):
NAV2

Japan (10):
MIL
INF
MECH

Factory destruction:
Germany destroy factory in Liege.
Japan destroy blue factories in Canton, and Shanghai.

Reinforcements:

Germany:
FTR2 (Bf 109E-1) -> Saarbrucken
LND2 (Hs 123) -> Cologne
ART -> Saarbrucken
INF -> Königsberg
ARM Div -> Breslau

Italy:
MOT -> Genoa

Japan:
NAV2 + LND2 -> Sasebo

Remove Air:
CVP0 (B5N1) in Sasebo

Voluntary Resource Lending:
New; Germany -> Italy: 2 resources, (2 oil, minimum)

Axis goes first if we win the initiative. No re-roll.

Note for Axis:
Italy: 2 oil total - 2 oil in Milan
Japan: 5 oil total - 1 oil in each of Canton, Tokyo, Kyoto, Nagoya, and Sendai
Germany: 5 oil total - 1 oil in Berlin, and 4 oil in Prague.


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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/16/2020 1:12:57 PM   
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Okay so let's go through this step by step. My first attempt at an end of turn with the Allies for about a billion years.... and with oil so should be heaps of fun....

I'll log everything so that any mistakes can be evident if/when I need to re-do this. I can see lots of errors in my CW placement already but hey, that's part of the learning curve.

I get the game at Preliminary production and the plan is to complete this end of turn in one sitting to try and stop any bugs creeping in.

GERMANY, ITALY and JAPAN



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/16/2020 1:27:22 PM   
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CHINA, COMMONWEALTH, FRANCE, USA and USSR



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/16/2020 2:04:39 PM   
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STAY AT SEA - AXIS

Nothing is staying at sea except the convoys currently in place

STAY AT SEA - ALLIES

CW - Various SCS in the 4 and 1 boxes of the key convoy routes remain at sea together with a fleet in the North Sea

France - All CA/CL (except Jeanne D'Arc) remain at sea.

RETURN TO BASE - AXIS

Germany - the He-115C returns to 47,35
Italy - Both SUB return to La Spezia
Japan - the three SCS and 3 TRS in the China Sea return to Fukuoka

RETURN TO BASE - ALLIES

CW - All surplus units head for key bases: Plymouth, Gibraltar, Port Said and a few others dotted around

France - The BB and Jeanne D'Arc head for Marseilles

USA - Nimitz is sent to Pearl and two empty TRS go back to San Diego

USE OIL - AXIS

Germany - The Berlin oil is used to reorganise all 2.8 units (3 Oil)

Italy - No point is expended to reorganise all 0.4 units (0 Oil)

Japan - The Niigata oil is used to reorganise 1 point and the Sendai oil is not expended to reorganise the remaining 0.45 units (1 Oil) - this leaves 2 x CL and an AMPH disorganised




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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/16/2020 2:40:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

I can see lots of errors in my CW placement already but hey, that's part of the learning curve.


If you are talking about CW production then I see no errors. At least when considering the number of factories that produce. All of the 22 CW factories produce. A lot of oil seems to be saved and none destroyed.

The three Polish factories can not be used for production because Germany, and the aligned Soviet Union, has blocked Poland from any possibility to get a resource to a factory.

So what CW could perhaps, and I really mean perhaps, have been able to get a resource to the Belgian factory but that would require a convoy chain down to the Belgian resource in Africa, or the Dutch resource in South America, and that seems rather implausible considering that CW had only one impulse in doing so and wound have needed to take an naval to do it, hence abandoning the CW reinforcement of Belgium. The CW units in Belgium seems the wise choice here.

So all in all the CW production seems as close to perfect as it can get.

But perhaps the comment was not intended for the CW production?

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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/16/2020 2:44:43 PM   
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USE OIL - ALLIES

USSR - No oil dependent units to reorganise

China - The Chinese reorganise Mao (0.4) and leave the fighter so that no oil is expended (O Oil)

Commonwealth - All units (3.95) reorganised (4 Oil)

France - The maximum (1 Oil) is expended to reorganise the bomber, the HQ, the TRS, the two best BB and Bretagne.

USA - Three TRS to reorganise for (0 Oil) no picture taken




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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/16/2020 3:12:47 PM   
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BREAKDOWN - AXIS

Japan - A CAV is broken down into a CAV DIV and MOT DIV

BREAKDOWN - ALLIES

None

FINAL PRODUCTION

All looked okay - the correct number of build points are in evidence (as per above). I did not check the oil at this stage.

SCRAP - ALLIES

China - Nothing
CW - All Polish, Belgian and Dutch units

PRODUCTION - AXIS

Production is as per below (bottom right of each box)




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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/16/2020 3:35:47 PM   
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PRODUCTION - ALLIES

Same for the Allies - Production in the right hand corner of each box



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/16/2020 3:57:07 PM   
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REFORM CORPS/ARMIES

None

CONQUEST

Netherlands
Denmark

There is a roll for the Dutch cruiser van Heemskerck. I want to complete this EoT in one hit so I am going to choose for it to go to Germany in order to move the game along. I really don't think its a crucial decision.

5 x Convoys in Iceland head for Liverpool (3) and Gibraltar (2)

US ENTRY ACTION - SUPPORT BELGIUM

An 8 is thrown and so no chit added

FACTORY DESTRUCTION - AXIS

Germany - Liege.
Japan - Canton, and Shanghai.

VICTORY CHECK



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/16/2020 4:28:23 PM   
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REINFORCEMENTS - AXIS

The reinforcements have been placed as per instructions above.

Germany - The MIL was Leipzig

Japan - The MIL Was Formosan

REINFORCEMENTS - ALLIES

The reinforcements have been placed as per instructions above and CW and USA as per below

Commonwealth:

West of Brussels: MIL
East of Warsaw: MIL
North of Lodz: MIL
Batavia: MIL
Rangoon: MIL
NDola: MIL
Cardiff: Carrier Plane
Plymouth: HMS Valiant, Convoy
London: Blenheim, Hurricane
Belfast: Vildebeest
Poznan: INF

France - MILS were Dakar and Marseilles

United States:

Norfolk: TRS
San Diego: St Louis, Helena and Houston

China: The MILs were Lan Chow and Sian

USSR: Nothing

Lending Resources

Germany to Italy: 2 Resources (2 Oil)
CW to France: 1 resource (1 Oil) 4 Build Points


MEMO ITEM:
AXIS

Oil
This is as it should be for the Axis (see Post 156)

Pilots
Italy - 1
Japan - 1

ALLIES

Oil
China - 1 Oil (1 x Urumchi)
CW - 4 Oil (1 x Calgary, Port Said, Bombay, Surabaya)
France - 1 Oil (1 x Beirut)
USA - 4 Oil (1 x Louisville, Nashville, Memphis, Charleston)
USSR - 4 Oil (1 x Stalinsk, Barnaul, Semipalatinsk, Alma Ata)

Pilots
France - 1


Initiative:

Axis: 3
Allies: 1

Weather: 7




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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 10:28:41 AM   
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Nov/Dec '39
Impulse #1 (Axis)

No declarations of war.

Land: Germany, Japan
Combined: Italy
Naval:

Germany port strikes Nice.




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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 10:38:08 AM   
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The German bomber find the French transport in port and drops their load on target. (Allies 7, Axis 1)



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 10:44:33 AM   
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And the French transport needs repairs before it can be brought back on duty.



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 11:19:37 AM   
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Italy fly one FTR2 to the West Med 2-box.

Italy send one SUB to Cape St Vincent 3-box, and one SUB to the Central Atlantic 1-box.

Italy begin searching in the West Med, and reinforce the area with one LND3, and one NAV2.



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 11:27:10 AM   
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Both sides find in the East Med (axis 3, Allies 1).

Italy select naval air combat. How will Allies spend their surprise points.

Italy will remain for a second round. Will Allies remain for a second round as well?



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 11:35:08 AM   
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I don't have the game open so can you just let me know the effect of either increasing or decreasing the combat hit by the two points please?

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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 11:51:11 AM   
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Increasing the AA fire change it to lowest die out of 5.

Decreasing damage done change the result from 2A to 1A, however, considering that the unmodified AA fire will reduce the attacking force with at least 1 this alternative guarantees 'no result' on the French fleet.

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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 11:58:50 AM   
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Then we'll take the latter please. Thank-you

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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 12:09:12 PM   
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The French AA fire is extremely accurate and aborts the bomber. (5,7,7,6,6,10)



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 12:12:54 PM   
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The 2 surprise points reduce the result on the French fleet to nothing at all.

The Italians remain and are thirsty for revenge. Will Allies remain as well?



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 12:15:55 PM   
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Yes please

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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 12:20:25 PM   
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the French cruisers are well prepared when they sight the Italian bombers. (Axis 9, Allies 2)

How will the Allies proceed?



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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 12:22:07 PM   
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Avoid combat, thanks.

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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 12:22:20 PM   
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AllenK is back so take it away Amiral

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RE: WWII - Sweden (Axis) vs England (Allies) - 5/17/2020 12:23:06 PM   
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quote:

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Avoid combat, thanks.
warspite1

Really? with 7 surprise points?



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