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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/4/2020 3:40:45 PM   
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Looks more like 5 cents to me ....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/4/2020 9:30:52 PM   
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Liz and Rita are missing art. For research of Airframes do you recommend 4x30 for george and the other advanced fighters? Or maybe 6x30?....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/4/2020 10:36:13 PM   
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Looks more like 5 cents to me ....GP


Darned right. I have work to do!


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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/4/2020 10:37:20 PM   
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Liz and Rita are missing art. For research of Airframes do you recommend 4x30 for george and the other advanced fighters? Or maybe 6x30?....GP


Michael is best at figuring the research out but I would lean towards the 6x30 as the option. George is it for your LBA Naval Fighters so you definitely need it ASAP.



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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/4/2020 10:39:53 PM   
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Liz and Rita are missing art. For research of Airframes do you recommend 4x30 for george and the other advanced fighters? Or maybe 6x30?....GP


Michael is best at figuring the research out but I would lean towards the 6x30 as the option. George is it for your LBA Naval Fighters so you definitely need it ASAP.




Well, I hope he see's this and comments....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/5/2020 12:49:20 AM   
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Further thoughts on economic stuff:

1. Bump Naval Shipyards about 100 points. Will still need to pause some builds but it should work to get the initial IJN ships produced.
2. I think armaments looks pretty good. Leave alone.
3. Vehicles is decent to start with but I say bump it about 50-75 for the fighting to come.

Really feel the lack of supply and fuel in the Home Islands. I have taken very little out since Dec 7th and the totals are growing but not very quickly. Be VERY careful to not expand too much with engines and airframes.


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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/5/2020 1:00:25 AM   
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For R&D, you will need a minimum of 4x30 to get any forward progress. For what you are going to hang your hat on, Franks, you will need 8x30. It seems to be common for your most important fighters to have those 8 factories devoted to them.
Which late war fighters get that devotion?? Shinden? Ki-94? Ki-93? Ki-83? Maybe one or two of these.
Mid-war fighters: Frank, Tony (Ki-100), George, Randy 102c (NF), Sam.
Lots of decisions to be made in the first 60 days of the war.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/5/2020 3:31:04 PM   
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Michael, you got your handle back.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/5/2020 7:50:05 PM   
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Hopefully final observations on IJN air units:

IJN Ship-based Float Planes:

-- Kamikawa Maru-1 changed from Exp 60 NavS 60 to Exp 59 NavB 59 for a change of -1 / -1 on average. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Kamikawa Maru-2 changed from Exp 60 NavS 60 to Exp 58 NavB 58 for a change of -2 / -2 on average. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Kimikawa Maru-1 changed from Exp 58 NavS 58 to Exp 54 NavB 53 for a change of -0 / +1 on average. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
-- Kiyokawa Maru-1 changed from Exp 59 NavS 58 to Exp 59 NavB 59 for a change of -0 / +1 on average. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
-- Kiyokawa Maru-2 changed from Exp 59 NavS 59 to Exp 55 NavB 57 for a change of -4 / -2 on average. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Sagara Maru-1 changed from Exp 59 NavS 54 to Exp 58 NavB 53 for a change of -1 / -1 on average. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Sanuki Maru-1 changed from Exp 59 NavS 60 to Exp 60 NavB 61 for a change of +1 / +1 on average. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
-- Sanyo Maru-1 changed from Exp 59 NavS 59 to Exp 59 NavB 59 for a change of -0 / -0 on average. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
-- Sanyo Maru-2 changed from Exp 59 NavS 57 to Exp 59 NavB 60 for a change of -0 / +3 on average. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Chitose-1 changed from Exp 60 NavS 59 to Exp 57 NavB 58 for a change of -3 / -1 on average. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Chitose-2 changed from Exp 59 NavS 59 to Exp 60 NavB 60 for a change of +1 / +1 on average. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
-- Chiyoda-1 changed from Exp 62 NavS 62 to Exp 63 NavB 64 for a change of +1 / +1 on average. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
-- Chiyoda-2 changed from Exp 63 NavS 63 to Exp 62 NavB 62 for a change of -1 / -1 on average. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Mizuho-1 changed from Exp 63 NavS 62 to Exp 63 NavB 61 for a change of -0 / -1 on average. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Mizuho-2 changed from Exp 62 NavS 55 to Exp 63 NavB 61 for a change of +1 / +6 on average. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.

-- Adatara-1 starts with Exp 71 NavS 63. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
-- Adatara-2 starts with Exp 73 NavS 69. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.


IJN Land-based Air Units (part 2)

Heavy Bombers:

-- Shinzan-1 starts with Exp 62 and GrdB 59. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT? There were no heavy bomber units in stock.

Recon:

-- 3rd Ku T-1 changed from Exp 68 Recn 69 to Exp 57 Recn 58 for a change of -11 / -11 on average.
-- Tainan Ku T-1 changed from Exp 69 Recn 68 to Exp 60 Recn 59 for a change of -9 / -9 on average.
-- Yamada Det T-1 changed from Exp 68 Recn 68 to Exp 59 Recn 59 for a change of -9 / -9 on average.

Recon air expansion was quite large, so the large drop in quality may be OK.

-- Kanoya-5 Ku T-4 starts with Exp 58 and Recn 57. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Nagasaki-5 Ku T-4 starts with Exp 57 and Recn 58. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Sendai Ku T-4 starts with Exp 67 and Recn 67. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
-- Tainan Ku T-4 starts with Exp 61 and Recn 60. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?
-- Tokyo Ku T-4 starts with Exp 60 and Recn 60. PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?

Transport:

-- 1001 Ku U-1 changed from Exp 64 Tran 64 to Exp 64 Tran 63 for a change of -0 / -1 on average. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
-- Yokohama Ku U-1 changed from Exp 63 Tran 60 to Exp 56 Tran 56 for a change of -7 / -4 on average.

-- 1001 Ku U-2 starts with Exp 63 and GrdB 62. THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.

Float Planes:

-- 16th Ku T-2 changed from Exp 54 NavS 55 to Exp 55 NavS 54 for a change of +1 / -1 on average.
-- 18th Ku T-1 changed from Exp 54 NavS 54 to Exp 54 NavS 55 for a change of -0 / +1 on average.
-- 19th Ku T-1 changed from Exp 54 NavS 54 to Exp 55 NavS 55 for a change of +1 / +1 on average.
-- 19th Ku T-2 changed from Exp 54 NavS 54 to Exp 54 NavS 53 for a change of -1 / -1 on average.
-- 2nd CCF Det T-1 changed from Exp 55 NavS 55 to Exp 55 NavS 57 for a change of -0 / +2 on average.
-- 3rd CCF Det T-1 changed from Exp 54 NavS 53 to Exp 53 NavS 53 for a change of -1 / -0 on average.
-- Chichijima Ku T-1 changed from Exp 54 NavS 55 to Exp 53 NavS 53 for a change of -1 / -2 on average.
-- Ching Tao Det T-1 changed from Exp 53 NavS 53 to Exp 52 NavB 52 for a change of -1 / -1 on average.
-- Chinhae Ku T-1 changed from Exp 54 NavS 53 to Exp 53 NavB 52 for a change of -1 / -1 on average.
-- Komatsushima Ku T-1 changed from Exp 53 NavS 53 to Exp 54 NavS 54 for a change of +1 / +1 on average.
-- Komatsushima Ku T-2 changed from Exp 53 NavS 53 to Exp 53 NavS 53 for a change of -0 / -0 on average.
-- Kure Ku T-1 changed from Exp 69 NavS 69 to Exp 59 NavS 59 for a change of -10 / -10 on average.
-- Maizuru Ku T-1 changed from Exp 54 NavS 54 to Exp 54 NavS 53 for a change of -0 / -1 on average. QUESTION: Is the name Maizura or Maizuru?
-- Ominato Ku T-2 changed from Exp 53 NavS 51 to Exp 53 NavS 53 for a change of -0 / +2 on average.
-- Sasebo Ku T-1 changed from Exp 52 NavS 53 to Exp 53 NavS 53 for a change of +1 / -0 on average.
-- Tateyama Ku T-2 changed from Exp 53 NavS 52 to Exp 59 NavS 59 for a change of -1 / -1 on average.
-- Yokosuka Ku T-2 changed from Exp 71 NavS 70 to Exp 67 NavS 66 for a change of -4 / -4 on average.
-- Yokosuka Ku T-3 changed from Exp 73 NavS 73 to Exp 64 NavS 65 for a change of -9 / -8 on average.

-- 16th Ku T-1 starts with Exp 55 NavS 55 in stock, but does not exist in BtSL.
-- 17th Ku T-1 starts with Exp 52 NavS 52 in stock, but does not exist in BtSL. Yet, 17th Ku T-1 Det A and 17th Ku T-1 Det B do exist (loaded on AMCs). This might produce errors.
-- 18th Ku T-2 starts with Exp 53 NavS 54 in stock, but does not exist in BtSL.

-- Kagoshima-4 Ku T-3 starts with Exp 56 NavS 57.
-- Kanoya-4 Ku T-3 starts with Exp 55 NavS 54.
-- Nagasaki-4 Ku T-3 starts with Exp 56 NavS 56.

Are these three 16th Ku T-1, 17th Ku T-1, and 18th Ku T-1 renamed? If so, they have slightly higher stats.

I think float plane air groups should be left as they are. A few have minor increases in Exp and/or NavS, but the four more experienced groups were toned down, so it balances out. The only thing that ought to be fixed, I think, is the detachments onboard the AMCs.

I think that is it. I may have missed a number of things, so perhaps someone else should double check.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/6/2020 3:19:19 PM   
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I have been trying to do updates on a weekly basis and have a day off later in the week. Will complete everything that has been listed since the last cleaning up.

Have a query for any of the Japanese Players: My BC Ishitaka shows her secondary 12.7 secondaries in RED. Does anyone else see this?


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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/6/2020 3:51:28 PM   
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I have been trying to do updates on a weekly basis and have a day off later in the week. Will complete everything that has been listed since the last cleaning up.

Have a query for any of the Japanese Players: My BC Ishitaka shows her secondary 12.7 secondaries in RED. Does anyone else see this?



Yes, BC Ishitaka shows in red....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/6/2020 4:03:56 PM   
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I have been trying to do updates on a weekly basis and have a day off later in the week. Will complete everything that has been listed since the last cleaning up.

Have a query for any of the Japanese Players: My BC Ishitaka shows her secondary 12.7 secondaries in RED. Does anyone else see this?



That would be because the class record shows 8 left and 8 right, but the ship record only shows 6 left and 6 right.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/6/2020 5:39:07 PM   
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Liz and Rita are missing art. For research of Airframes do you recommend 4x30 for george and the other advanced fighters? Or maybe 6x30?....GP


I found a problem. There is updated artwork on the RA site, but if you try to use it the scenario will not load. It starts and then just quits to desktop. The Liz and Rita art are in the updated files, you just can not use them.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/7/2020 10:40:42 PM   
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CL Teshio is a reinforcement due at Port Arthur but will not appear. It just sits in the list. Any ideas? Could it be because of a supply issue?....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 1:30:25 PM   
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Game Plan.

I have a bunch of work to do doing little and big things (Thanks Jorge!). My goal will be to do a next-to-last Mod Update by Sunday Night. Say we playtest another week or so and then do a final release and call it good.

Once the release is done, I will shift over to tracking down and placing ALL the ship and plane artwork into their own folders. That should fix another annoying problem.

If anyone has had issues and hasn't Posted here, please do.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 1:31:18 PM   
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How far has everyone gotten? Jorge and I are at 12/23.



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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 1:35:38 PM   
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Michael and I suspended after a few turns. I wanted him to go back to doing the China update.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 1:47:39 PM   
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Did not know that. Thanks Sir.

Kitakami and I plan to get to Jan 1st and then stop.


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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 1:47:51 PM   
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John, did you say a while back that you reduced starting supply in the HI's? We're on the Dec 19th turn and supply has dropped off quite a bit. Also, please see my reinforcement issue above....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 1:51:49 PM   
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Just wrote the Teshio down to look at. I got her without issue. Pretty strange. Is it in the reinforcement cue and not arriving I assume? Could you screenshot? Which Scenario are you playing?

Supply is now horrific in the Home Isles. This is why I waited two weeks of turns before starting changes in the economy. During that time I didn't pull ANY supply out of the Home Islands. HI appears to be OK but supply is big.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 1:52:53 PM   
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Got to go to work. Back in 6-7 hours.


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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 1:59:37 PM   
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John, Here the screen shot that you requested....GP




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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 10:21:09 PM   
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Thanks. How many turns has it been hung up?


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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 11:07:51 PM   
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Was due on the 9th or 10th. So 10 days hung up. As of the image. Hey had a strange thing happen 2 turns ago. All of the air art was missing. Just for one turn. Everything is good now....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 11:09:33 PM   
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Oh, as an experiment I set the CL to accelerate....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 11:17:30 PM   
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Just wondering Brian, your Naval Shipyards are producing 1595 points but the estimate is 3762. Maybe when it gets to Teshio there are not enough NS points available.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/8/2020 11:19:32 PM   
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I just increased nav shipyards this turn. I'll wait and see....GP

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/9/2020 12:33:20 AM   
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Brian - Halt ALL your sub building that you can. That should quickly give you a boost in available points. Don't forget that those points are used first for the lowest ID of ships. So, CVs and then BBs will gobble up the points before it gets to CLs. Once you start getting some surplus built up, turn on those that are closest to completion. FYI - three subs use up the same number of points as a heavy CV.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/9/2020 12:35:36 AM   
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Brian - Halt ALL your sub building that you can. That should quickly give you a boost in available points. Don't forget that those points are used first for the lowest ID of ships. So, CVs and then BBs will gobble up the points before it gets to CLs. Once you start getting some surplus built up, turn on those that are closest to completion. FYI - three subs use up the same number of points as a heavy CV.


This is what I do, and I have had no need to increase naval shipyards. That allows for REPAIR shipyards to be built up.

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RE: BTS Play-Testing - 5/9/2020 12:39:26 AM   
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Brian - Halt ALL your sub building that you can. That should quickly give you a boost in available points. Don't forget that those points are used first for the lowest ID of ships. So, CVs and then BBs will gobble up the points before it gets to CLs. Once you start getting some surplus built up, turn on those that are closest to completion. FYI - three subs use up the same number of points as a heavy CV.


This is what I do, and I have had no need to increase naval shipyards. That allows for REPAIR shipyards to be built up.


I shut off subs last turn. It was a hunch on my part. But it is good to get some positive input on this. I'll post next turn(Tomorrow) what it looks like....GP

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