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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/11/2020 11:53:04 PM   
sveint


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Status: offline 		I don't understand what's going on with the Soviets here at all?

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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/12/2020 9:01:34 AM   
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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/14/2020 9:26:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		The simplest most effective strategy on the Russian front is where the Germans surround single units or small pockets of 1-4 Russian units, with special focus on their motorized and armored units which are the most expensive to produce (and lose!). This takes a fair amount of gumption but reaching for cities beyond the reaches of supply is foolish. You will gain the most territory by destroying units methodically.
Another key is building German cavalry corps early on because they can move through zones of control, like junior panzer divisions, which complete the kesselschlact surrounding of Russian units.
Also one can move infantry units one hex at a time (through gaps) to surround Russian units with the key being **occupying all six hexes around each unit or ALL the hexes around a small group of units, without a gap.** This way units are destroyed when they cannot retreat.

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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/16/2020 6:36:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		What I am getting out of this playtest is the Soviets are boned.

This is not a balanced scenario at all. I wouldn't play it. The German begins seriously overpowered here, particularly in trucks which practically negates their one weak point early on, logistics. 250 trucks? Please. Yes, the oil is low, but even so. So long as you can burn trucks to keep up readiness, the Germans don't need to spend much oil they can create combats at high odds and eliminate Soviet units well beyond their replacement capacity.

There is absolutely no need to reduce the movement abilities of rifle corps. These units tend to die anyways.

I would advise the Soviet player to resign here. They are just going to get overrun in 42.


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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/16/2020 5:55:16 PM   
ncc1701e


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ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

This is not a balanced scenario at all. I wouldn't play it. The German begins seriously overpowered here, particularly in trucks which practically negates their one weak point early on, logistics. 250 trucks? Please. Yes, the oil is low, but even so. So long as you can burn trucks to keep up readiness, the Germans don't need to spend much oil they can create combats at high odds and eliminate Soviet units well beyond their replacement capacity.


I haven't used a lot of trucks. But it's true that I never had the feeling of having a logistics problem.
The scenario pace is good until Septembre 9th.

Then, something needs to happen to slow down the German logistics. There is plenty of everything (oil, trucks, replacements).
Perhaps by acting on railways repair rate?


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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 8:56:36 PM   
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Situation is still too good from my point of view given the weather.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 8:58:53 PM   
ncc1701e


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Great, a new Motorized corps... only the name of it.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 8:59:39 PM   
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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 9:00:41 PM   
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I will fallback a little the time for the railway repair to be completed.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 9:00:47 PM   
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I am still unable to catch and destroy the army behind my lines.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 9:00:55 PM   
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Nothing planned except "Sitzkrieg".




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 9:01:01 PM   
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Two armored corps have been redeployed elsewhere.






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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 9:01:06 PM   
ncc1701e


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I will try to reduce these three small pockets. Destroying two mechanized corps is always a good thing for later.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 9:01:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Army Group Center - October 26th, 1941 - Situation at the end of German turn:

Great, two mechanized corps destroyed but there is still one pocket that seems impossible to reduce.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 9:01:17 PM   
ncc1701e


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In the south, Sevastopol can be taken this turn. Reinforcements are coming.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/17/2020 9:01:29 PM   
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Sevastopol has fallen. Thanks for the AA guns.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 2:40:03 PM   
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Situation is still too good...




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 2:42:28 PM   
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Casualties are stabilized since I do not attack much due to the weather:
1. around 1:7 for land units
2. around 1:8 for air units




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 2:43:39 PM   
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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 2:46:18 PM   
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My oil stock is currently at 274. The offensive break was beneficial for my oil reserve.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 7:58:40 PM   
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The cat and mouse game continues...




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 7:58:46 PM   
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I try to isolate and destroy the armies one by one.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 7:58:52 PM   
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Army Group North takes up winter quarters.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 7:58:59 PM   
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I haven't decided yet if I put those armies in garrison mode. I am waiting to see the situation in the south.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 7:59:04 PM   
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In the center, there is again this pocket to reduce...




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 7:59:10 PM   
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Moscow is so close and so far. I am waiting for the snow...




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 7:59:15 PM   
ncc1701e


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The weather is better in the south, so I have more opportunity now with the arrival of three armored corps from the north. A new yellow objective line has been defined.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 7:59:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Army Group South - November 9th, 1941 - Situation at the end of German turn:

A breakthrough seems possible next turn. The Russians will have to make a choice. Lose the south or bring in some reinforcements.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/18/2020 7:59:27 PM   
ncc1701e


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Status: offline 		Army Group South - November 9th, 1941 - Caucasus:

Caucasian oil is within reach for our war effort.




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RE: AAR Barbarossa (ncc1701e (axis) vs Hairog (allies))... - 4/19/2020 4:15:42 PM   
ncc1701e


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Status: offline 		Supply situation - November 23rd, 1941:

Really? The mud weather has no impact on supplies, it seems.




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