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[Resolved] My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 3/27/2020 10:13:26 AM   
jarraya

 

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Before I post this as a bug, can someone please tell me why Flight 4422 can't refuel from the Herc just NE of it? I've ordered to refuel but it just doesn't.

Harriers have a probe and the Herc has a basket.

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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 3/27/2020 4:52:50 PM   
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Hi Jarraya

Are you sure you have uploaded the correct save game?
I can´t find flight 4422.

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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 3/27/2020 7:59:14 PM   
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Yeah, I did an OOB search and can't find it.

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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 3/28/2020 11:10:42 AM   
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Yeah, sorry all, wrong save. I tried to replicate the situation and it worked when I manually refuelled. When I tried auto refuel a pop up told me the flight can't intercept the tanker, which is wrong.
Will see if I can replicate again and post another save, but for now it seems it's working.

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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 3/28/2020 11:18:05 AM   
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Ok, managed to replicate with two different aircraft.

See flight 206 Sqn RAF 2 trying to refuel from 47 Sqn Raf 1.

I get a message in the bottom left that it will try but if doesn't.



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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 3/28/2020 6:13:22 PM   
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Hi Jarraya

The reason you can´t refuel is because the tanker is RTB.
Un assign it (press U) and you can refuel.

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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 4/5/2020 5:28:57 PM   
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OK, I posted about this before and now I've checked and double checked, it's definitely a bug.

See unit Flight 5079, 3 x Jaguar with probe refuelling capability. Up ahead on its flight path are 3 x tankers, all with baskets.

Ordering the unit to automatically refuel gives a message that this is not possible. Manually ordering it to refuel does nothing.

The F-15s behind it have no problem refuelling


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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 4/6/2020 9:44:38 AM   
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Check the ROE on the individual a/c - the UNREP is set to 'Never'.

A quick way to reset unit ROE, is to use the 'Reset affected units...' in the mission ROE screen - middle button on the bottom of the form.

The ROE can be confusing as to which one applies in some cases:
Side - > Unit
Side -> Group -> Unit
Side -> Mission -> Group -> Unit [I'm not 100% sure on this, it might be Side -> Group -> Mission ->Unit]

I personally use these buttons quite often especially if I have been fiddling with the unit/group ROE beforehand.

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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 4/7/2020 9:05:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm75au

Check the ROE on the individual a/c - the UNREP is set to 'Never'.



Thank you for the reply.

Ok, so the ROE of each aircraft is set to Not Allow, despite the group being manually set to Allow. This to me is a bug, as if you set a group it should override the individual units.

What I don't understand is how these units ever get set this way in the first place? They came from the same airfield as the rest of the other aircraft.

Also, the message pop us is wrong and that should be corrected. If it's an ROE issue it should not say that there are no tankers in range.







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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 4/7/2020 10:24:22 AM   
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No, it isn't a bug because you may have wanted to force an a/c to skip refueling if it had sufficient fuel for a mission and you didn't want to take a tanker refuel station.
The devs have tried to allow all possible combinations as requested by the community.

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Yes the message could be better worded as to the issue.

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RE: My unit can't refuel - is this a bug? - 4/7/2020 10:33:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm75au

No, it isn't a bug because you may have wanted to force an a/c to skip refueling if it had sufficient fuel for a mission and you didn't want to take a tanker refuel station.
The devs have tried to allow all possible combinations as requested by the community.

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Yes the message could be better worded as to the issue.

Ok, if that's how it was intended it's fine. But the message should be changed then to "these a/c can't refuel because of Doctrine" rather than "can't find a tanker".

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