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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 7:26:33 PM   
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Toilet rolls are worth more than cocaine now in the UK.
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....and a lot harder to stuff up your nose.


Just use a little at a time . . .


And maybe remove the cardboard centerpiece...

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 7:30:18 PM   
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Apparently, in America, the White House coronavirus meetings are now classified - lol.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/487040-white-house-ordered-coronavirus-meetings-classified

It's amazing the things that make the news over here...

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 7:44:32 PM   
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Toilet rolls are worth more than cocaine now in the UK.
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....and a lot harder to stuff up your nose.


Just use a little at a time . . .


And maybe remove the cardboard centerpiece...
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 7:48:41 PM   
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This is supposed to be a serious thread about a deadly virus. No one is allowed to make jokes (unless they're very funny).

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 8:25:08 PM   
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Hey, that last one was pretty good.

Besides I find that if I don't laugh at ourselves, I be crying all day. The world is so.... Well you know.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 9:41:58 PM   
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In case no one's posted this yet:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 10:01:41 PM   
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This doesn't look good




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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 10:11:55 PM   
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The United States has tested 7,000 people. 7,000 States, Cities doctors are screaming for tests. 7,000. South Korea has tested over 200,000. We are way, way behind. Whats the plan to catch up?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 10:16:59 PM   
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As noted above, that's classified.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 10:20:31 PM   
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This looks really, really bad. Nursing home victims, though.




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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 11:21:46 PM   
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Just another way of looking at it. Not reassuring.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/11/2020 11:53:53 PM   
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Italy, now under lockdown, has been hit hard by the coronavirus outbreak.
https://www.businessinsider.com/italy-coronavirus-old-population-cases-death-rate-2020-3

"As of Monday, over 9,000 people in Italy had contracted the COVID-19 disease caused by the new Coronavirus, and more than 463 others have died. The new figures make the country home to the largest number of infections outside China, the epicenter of the epidemic.

According to Italy's national health institute, the average age of those who have died was 81, and many of the deceased had preexisting health conditions. Only one in five Coronavirus patients is between 19 and 50 years old, making the older population significantly more impacted by the virus in Italy. "



"A study conducted last month from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention showed that the virus most seriously affected older people with preexisting health problems, which suggests a person's chances of dying from the disease increase with age."



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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 12:46:47 AM   
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 1:49:02 AM   
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Tom Hanks tweets that he and his wife have tested positive for coronavirus.

That'll certainly put a famous face on this pandemic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/business/media/tom-hanks-coronavirus.html

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 2:19:11 AM   
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The height of the season for beginning a thru-hike on the Appalachian Trail (Georgia to Maine) is late February through March. As best I can tell, the season is off to a normal start. I'm following a number of folks who post online blogs or journals. Most of them are young enough, or fit enough, to fall outside the "susceptible category." But they might find re-supply at small mountain and valley towns difficult, if hording/shortages begin. But, to this point, I haven't seen any mentions of concerns about the virus. That'll change.

In my community, life continues pretty much as normal, although we've had quite a few postives or suspected-postives. Today I went for a long run on a mountain. There was cast and crew filming an episode of "Stranger Things" at Berry College. All stores are well stocked and having sales on toilet paper, etc. I worked and had lunch (a homemade peanut butter sandwich) in the food court at the local mall (I always buy and unsweet tea and read while I eat my sandwich). I went to church tonight and we had a great meeting.

But we're aware of what's going on. We know that professional and college leagues are planning to play without fans in attendance; the local schools are closed for the next two days (the students were off anyway); many local colleges are beginning to go to online class only for the balance of the semester; my wife works at a center that hosts marriage and corporate retreats - I assume that business will suspend operations soon.

My 90-year-old mom is in a local assisted living facility. She's certainly vulnerable.

Overall, I feel optimistic about things. Given two or three weeks of perspective and additional info, I believe things will settle down and return (mostly) to normal. But I'll keep watching and adjust expectations accordingly.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 2:30:09 AM   
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NBA just suspended the season. Coming next: March Madness, Baseball, NHL? If they shut down the Premier League, this is one Liverpool fan that will KNOW the gods hate us....

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 3:49:45 AM   
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We are all going to die... Really we are.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 3:55:59 AM   
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If they shut down the Premier League, this is one Liverpool fan that will KNOW the gods hate us....
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Well we live in hope

Although in all seriousness, even if they did cancel the season it would be remarkably unfair to do anything other than announce Liverpool as Champions given their lead. What would they do about relegation / promotion / European places I wonder?

I think the cancellation of a season so close to its end will be most unlikely and instead they will order all games to be played behind closed doors. I guess ultimately it depends on how many players start contracting the virus.


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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 4:15:54 AM   
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We are all going to die... Really we are.

Yes, and there are plenty of web sites that will tell you how long you can expect to live based on your age, health, diet, exercise habits, etc.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 4:39:40 AM   
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I would rather go out not knowing

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 4:54:24 AM   
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We are all going to die... Really we are.

Bollocks! I plan to live forever. So far it is working out just fine


Also, here is a good analytical piece on the statistics of epidemics
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 8:32:56 AM   
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I'll repeat. Based on the current acceleration we may be at 1 million cases in the United States by the middle of April. We will run out of hospital beds by early May. Unless something is done to slow the acceleration. Cancelling the NBA season of stopping Europeans from traveling here won't do it. The horse is out of the barn. The virus is here. It must be dealt with here. Blaming foreigners when the entire human race is dealing with this is pointless and self serving. WE NEED TO SLOW THE ACCELERATION. We are currently seeing an increase of infections at a rate of 29% increase per day. Do the math. It exponential. It doubles every 3 days. Shut schools down. Shut transportation down. No large gatherings. Shut down air travel now. What is the paln?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 9:17:18 AM   
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I'll repeat. Based on the current acceleration we may be at 1 million cases in the United States by the middle of April. We will run out of hospital beds by early May. Unless something is done to slow the acceleration. Cancelling the NBA season of stopping Europeans from traveling here won't do it. The horse is out of the barn. The virus is here. It must be dealt with here. Blaming foreigners when the entire human race is dealing with this is pointless and self serving. WE NEED TO SLOW THE ACCELERATION. We are currently seeing an increase of infections at a rate of 29% increase per day. Do the math. It exponential. It doubles every 3 days. Shut schools down. Shut transportation down. No large gatherings. Shut down air travel now. What is the paln?

Did you look at the 15 minutes of interview which Erik linked to? 38% of nurses working in healthcare delivery in the US have children in school. Shut down the schools, lose 38% of nurses when you need them to work overtime. Or the kids are gathered elsewhere anyway.

What is your plan for feeding people with all transportation shut down? How about grocery stores - are they large gatherings?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 10:18:46 AM   
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Only China and Korea made managed to slow this down. What did they do? Quarantine. They found home confinement useless. They test every one. If you have it, or have a fever, you are sent to a fever clinic. No choice. Home confinement has only led to families becoming infected. We are still in denial. Shut everything down. Test everyone. Isolate the sick or infected. China and Korea are doing a fine job of feeding their people and they have far less food resources than we do. What’s your plan? Wait for it to go away? Have the Federal reserve do another rate cut? It’s here and it is spreading at an exponential rate. Harsh measures are in order. Or maybe it’s time for a rude tweet? We have no real plan to slow the infection rate. This is not an economical problem. We need science here. In NY state we have 28 labs ready and fully equipped to start testing. The only thing holding up that testing is the Federal Government needs to approve testing. So far they have refused! 28 labs ready to test and the Federal Government will not approve! This is madness

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 12:03:31 PM   
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The entire population of the planet will eventually be exposed.

The only madness is thinking anyone one of us can hide from it.

I, like most people, might be able to stretch my stockpiles to last a month.

Only the survivalists we, as a society, have been making fun of for years, have stockpiled the resources necessary to survive the shut down of the distribution of goods for any lengthy duration.

Shutting down the distribution of goods is the quickest way possible to bring about the zombie apocalypse.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 12:10:14 PM   
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Went to Costco yesterday to pick up the coupon items I wanted. On the way by that isle I noticed a sign - and the lack of stock - indicating they were completely out of toilet paper.

I think after production is adjusted to account for the current run on certain things, like TP, there are going to be some long draw-down of personal stockpiles of certain goods.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 12:24:31 PM   
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Only China and Korea made managed to slow this down. What did they do? Quarantine. They found home confinement useless. They test every one. If you have it, or have a fever, you are sent to a fever clinic. No choice. Home confinement has only led to families becoming infected. We are still in denial. Shut everything down. Test everyone. Isolate the sick or infected. China and Korea are doing a fine job of feeding their people and they have far less food resources than we do. What’s your plan? Wait for it to go away? Have the Federal reserve do another rate cut? It’s here and it is spreading at an exponential rate. Harsh measures are in order. Or maybe it’s time for a rude tweet? We have no real plan to slow the infection rate. This is not an economical problem. We need science here. In NY state we have 28 labs ready and fully equipped to start testing. The only thing holding up that testing is the Federal Government needs to approve testing. So far they have refused! 28 labs ready to test and the Federal Government will not approve! This is madness


I know. Take everyone and their families who has the virus and put them in camps surrounded by barbed wire. Take their personal possessions away from them and either destroy those possessions or sterilize them. If they are sterilized, then sell them at local thrift stores since there won't be any new goods going through the distribution system to regular stores.

The people in camps will be allowed to work but won't be fed enough due to corruption as well as the attitude "They are going to die anyway!" Since their personal clothing is now gone and they are in camps, give them all a unique outfit so they can easily be seen if they should leave the camps. Since they are going to die and their bodies may still carry the disease, have large cremation ovens. Since they are going to be cremated, make sure that any gold teeth are removed.

The guards should all have a nice uniform. Maybe a nice black (for mourning) with nice black boots. To show where they work so people will respect them, have a symbol like a skull (to show that they work around death) on their uniform.

To insure that the rest of the population stays in line, how about have check points where police check peoples papers to make sure that they are actually allowed to travel? With corona virus 19 checks as well? With secret police in plain clothes everywhere as well?

Is that what you want?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 12:28:48 PM   
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Good interview on COVID-19:

https://youtu.be/cZFhjMQrVts

Here is a link to the PODcast website with the entire interview. Some of it goes into other infectious diseases, but the current corona virus outbreak is the main topic. The whole thing is very worthwhile.

http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/michael-osterholm

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 1:43:25 PM   
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NBA just suspended the season. Coming next: March Madness, Baseball, NHL? If they shut down the Premier League, this is one Liverpool fan that will KNOW the gods hate us....



Life goes on day after day
Hearts torn in every way
So ferry 'cross the Mersey
'Cause this land's the place I love
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/12/2020 1:45:49 PM   
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Circuit Breakers Triggered Again With Stocks in Bear Market

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/circuit-breakers-back-play-stocks-191844972.html
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Market-wide circuit breakers that already tripped once this week were triggered again as selling in the S&P 500 dragged stocks into an intraday bear market.

The benchmark for American equities plunged 7% to 2,549 as of 9:35 a.m. in New York, the level where NYSE rules stipulate a 15-minute trading halt aimed at soothing frayed nerves. That leaves the index 25% below its all-time high and on course to meet the accepted definition of a bear market.

“Circuit breakers won’t help sentiment,” said Dennis Debusschere, head of portfolio strategy at Evercore ISI. “What will help is policy and comfort the virus is contained.”


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