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By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/23/2020 9:21:56 PM   
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Preview of By Stealth and Sea, which will soon be on it´s kickstarter campaign. Interesting solo/coop game about human torpedos...

YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt8Dku9FUQY&t=124s

Player Aid article:
https://theplayersaid.com/2020/02/18/by-stealth-and-sea-from-dan-verssen-games-coming-to-kickstarter-soon-playthrough-by-co-designer-david-thompson/

Kickstarter campaign:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/danverssengames/dvg-by-stealth-and-sea?ref=amg58e&token=a29b1af7&fbclid=IwAR0j7TUYhx6ykdUYcltey5fUklkjFmGOQZ2KEvvz7R0nj34-tUwH6YDk-W8

Nice to see something different

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/23/2020 11:53:05 PM   
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Thanks for posting Red

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/24/2020 5:58:12 PM   
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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 12:43:09 AM   
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You're (you are bad at punctuation)

not your. (your lack of punctuation)

Jesus Christ that annoys me. Yeah, it's the internet but it still really annoys me.

English might not be your first language but if you're going to post here try to be better than most native speakers who also get it wrong.


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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 2:41:15 AM   
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seriously?

what if we are writin American?

I think we dumped some of your tea into the sea, no?

Relax its not 1776...lol :D

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 5:49:42 AM   
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Of course the idiot colonists from across the Atlantic are the worst of all.....

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 5:53:14 AM   
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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 6:25:12 AM   
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waitin' for warspite1 to chip in and defend the colonials.

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 9:25:32 AM   
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The "colonials" did what Napoleon did not.

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 9:43:56 AM   
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I´ll post as I like, (as long as I´am respectful) thank you...

Your annoyance, is you´re problem Sir.

There´s more important things to correct/add then my spelling in this, and other forums. Especially natives on VOIP´s.

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 9:56:48 AM   
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Red can write your butt with a Sharpie any time he wants!


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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 10:01:01 AM   
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Red, when someone ask how you spell something, your spelling is never incorrect.

Everybody makes mistakes. Some people name them.

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 11:20:15 AM   
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It´s annoying to see more post talk about the off-topic of spelling (in this case), then rather talk about the game in question. If we speak about correctness, then mannears in this case are obsolete as only one user has said thank you, as in for you contribution. Again, in this case in a "general" forum from a company that publeshes wargames. So it´s quite strange that talking/posting about something VERY related to wargames/tactics/history/strategy/milsim gets a reaction like, you´re bad spelling is annoying, and IF your going to post here do it right.

Really, I don´t want to get into what is right or wrong, especially from someone I don´t even know, or if he/she has any authority to do so. I personally praise those who put some sort of effort in there contributions, then those who´s effort is just to pin-point mistakes and/or rants.

Not that I need to justify myself but, I finished my highchool in the 80´s and left the US after that, also spent many years in Canada before that, knew french and english as any native there, but there something called "practise" that when not applied even natives will loose when they live in a foregin country. The only contact I have with english nowadays is the web, VOIP in games, and the books I still buy in english, because I rather read in english then in my native language because THAT´s what I was taught in my educational years.

But yes, I hear you Ranger Joe.


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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 12:35:07 PM   
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Red,

I understand although this is my native language. My German was never very good but I could follow Das Boot (forgive the English spelling, please) in the native German. When the actors dubbed their own voices in English, the essence of the story line did not change although it will in some movies. Now I have a difficult time remembering more than a few things in German.

I don't fault people their spelling and grammatical errors although I try to be correct. But there are differences between the Queen's English and American English which will also upset some people.

Thank you for posting about these games and commenting on them. I read them even though, at this point in time, I can not afford to purchase them.

Joe

edited to correct an error!

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 12:51:35 PM   
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Im English and to be honest i feel embarrassed by what IslandInland has said
He knew exactly what you said
Even i know that American English is slightly different than English English
And to think how the English language has evolved over time within the next hundred years there will be a massive change due to text speak

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 2:26:02 PM   
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Oh yes I agree, while a debate could shift from US to UK users.

As a side note, when I moved over from the US to EU at the age of 18, I meet my best friend, a UK native living in Spain, he on the contrary to myself, grew up in Spain and spoke perfect Spanish. But when he would speak to me in english (UK English), I would have a hard time understanding what he was saying Iam a native Spanish who grew up in Canada/US.

Although my english at that time was in top shape native almost like, I did have issues understanding most of the UK folks I meet in the Spanish turist town I lived in at the time, wont even mention Irish or Scottish folks I meet, and by that I mean the same hard time understanding. With time you get used to it, but yes, there is quite a differeance between UK and US English.

Not only that, I have noticed over the years that American English has evolved quite alot since I went to school in the 80´s. The phrasing and word use has been very much enriched since then. Have a look at some of the old Avalon Hill game manuals of the 80´s and/or watch older movies fron the 80´s and one can tell how much it has evolved. So, if your not in constant conversations with the current phrasing/word use of todays Americans, it´s most likely you will sound like you learned English in some foregin country. (simple English)

Ok, I hope the grammar class is over, beacuse the "spell checker" we had on the web some time ago moved to work for Garmin on there GPS devices

Well, if we all spelled correctly, the Grammarly app would be out of business! Iam not buying though!

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 3:14:04 PM   
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Not getting involved in this one, I'm from south, my English is bad to begin to with, for the peep outside of the US, that Slang for Southern Boy.

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 3:46:30 PM   
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You forgot to capitalize South, as in "I am from the South!" so you won't be considered a yanqui!

You could also state "I am from The South" which might be even better. Hominey, hush puppies, deep fried catfish, sweet potatoes, greens, black-eyed peas with smoked ham hocks, peach cobbler and pecan pie . . .

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 8:58:30 PM   
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This looks Great imho. Lot's of stress... (something about the harbor maps and defenses reminds me of Enemy Coast Ahead)


Red thanks for posting!

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 10:34:43 PM   
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Lynyrd Skynyrd!!!!!

I hate using capital letters while writing with the tablet, in this forum, you can write by using the easiest method available. Red always finds the games I enjoy reading about. This tablet I own requires lots of taps to move between letters.

Let's discuss wargames and shift the spelling debate to the Bernie crowd.

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/25/2020 11:17:29 PM   
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bY sTeaLth 'lys aNd sEA ][DvG][ pREview ' s

wELCOME to the ASYLUM...

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RE: By Stealth and Sea [DVG] Preview - 2/26/2020 6:46:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jack54

This looks Great imho. Lot's of stress... (something about the harbor maps and defenses reminds me of Enemy Coast Ahead)


Red thanks for posting!


Your welcome Jack54.

It also reminds me a bit of Avalon Hill´s Raid on St. Nazaire.

By the way Jack, I guess you already know that J.D. Webster put out his new addition/module to the fighting wings series, Wings of the Motherland recently. On the expensive side but 220 scenarios is alot of gameplay...
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/85147/wings-motherland

There is some additional reworked rules and trainning guide. Some of it can be found on Wargaming Vault as PDF.

He has also stated the there will be a kickstarter project (125 copies) of a reprint of Buffalo Wings.

Thanks demyansk! Iam glad you enjoy what I post. I lived in Florida in my teens, and you can´t get more south then that, so I´ll add Molly Hatchet. I still remember staring at the cover while listening to the album when I was 16. I became a Frank Frazetta and Boris Vallejo fan after that

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